Bill Gate Tries to Wreck Another Linux Stock: RHAT Using Barron's

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Funny, how Bill Gate uses the Deutsches Bank and Barron's to defraud
people and try to wreck his competitors ( he can't ).
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There is a silver lining in every cloud. You can buy some RHAT cheap
during the brief downtick. And you can take delight in that some
shorts will be caught with their pants down.
 
Peter said:
There is a silver lining in every cloud. You can buy some RHAT cheap
during the brief downtick. And you can take delight in that some
shorts will be caught with their pants down.
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So much for the Redhat tech bubble.

Don't put all your investment dollars into a hobbyist OS.

Time to sell and cut your loses before you lose the rest.
 
So much for the Redhat tech bubble.

Don't put all your investment dollars into a hobbyist OS.
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Wise investment advice - don't put al your eggs in one basket -
applies to investing in all companies - MSFT included.

Pretty funny sort of hobbyist OS when it is doing heavy duty work such
as driving GOOGLE servers, helping out M$ when its servers are
compromised, facilitating top secret computing in many countries
(including USA), and has the magic letters I, B, and M right behind
it. By the way, remember the old expression 'you never got sacked for
buying IBM' - it will fairly soon come back into fashion with respect
to Linux.

Oh yes, and it enables hobbyisys and students to have professional
grade systems laboratories in their dens. My son has an old Pentium
100 (old free castoff) set up as a server with Debian, Apache, MySQL,
PHP, etc to practice advanced web page skills. A new machine running
closed source equivalents would be totally beyond his budget.
 
Benjamin said:
So much for the Redhat tech bubble.

Don't put all your investment dollars into a hobbyist OS.
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Better return than putting your investment dollars in MSFT, which
has gone nowhere the last few years - at least I've more than
tripled my investment in RHAT.
Time to sell and cut your loses before you lose the rest.
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Considering I've made over 200% return on RHAT, I don't think I'd
be cutting my "loses". But then I never take investment advice
from people who aren't a) smart enough to look up stock data, b)
do simple math (eg 200% > 0%), or c) spell.

Jim
 
No it doesn't say anything like that at all.

You can assume what you like, but have you considered
that they is no Linix stuff out there for desktops and
Microsoft is getting better at server stuff.

No, it must be a conspiracy (sarcasm)
 
Oh yes, and it enables hobbyisys and students to have professional
grade systems laboratories in their dens. My son has an old Pentium
100 (old free castoff) set up as a server with Debian, Apache, MySQL,
PHP, etc to practice advanced web page skills. A new machine running
closed source equivalents would be totally beyond his budget.
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Windows 2003 Server (im using Enterprise)
SQL Server (im using Enterprise)
IIS (comes with 2003 Server)
ASP.NET
Visual Studio .NET 2003 ENTERPRISE ARCHITECT (you know the one that costs a
hell of a lot)

megabucks worth of software all FREE - how?

quite simple, my educational establishment has a clue and has aquired
access to MSDNAA - a licence which grants students and facaulaty members
free access to software.
A new machine running
closed source equivalents would be totally beyond his budget.
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who in hell needs a new machine to run the aformentioned software - it will
happly run on anything 500mhz and above with ~512mb of ram. IIRC any
computers of that vintage cost less than $200 so wtf is the problem.
 
megabucks worth of software all FREE - how?
quite simple, my educational establishment has a clue and has aquired
access to MSDNAA - a licence which grants students and facaulaty members
free access to software.
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From MS:

The MSDN Academic Alliance program is designed specifically for academic
labs, faculty, and students in the curriculum areas of Computer Science,
Engineering, and Information Systems to make it easier and less expensive to
get Microsoft developer tools, platforms, and servers for instructional and
research purposes.
Membership Details:
a.. $799 (USD) annual membership fee per department
b.. Membership runs from January 1 - December 31 or July 1-June 30
(depending on your registration date)
c.. Includes the latest releases of the MSDNAA software.
d.. Register at
https://registermsdn.one.microsoft.com/msdnaa/aa/newstep1.aspx
Free downloads are for students but the program is not free for the
institution. It is a good price, but certainly not free.
 
From MS:

The MSDN Academic Alliance program is designed specifically for academic
labs, faculty, and students in the curriculum areas of Computer Science,
Engineering, and Information Systems to make it easier and less expensive to
get Microsoft developer tools, platforms, and servers for instructional and
research purposes.
Membership Details:
a.. $799 (USD) annual membership fee per department
b.. Membership runs from January 1 - December 31 or July 1-June 30
(depending on your registration date)
c.. Includes the latest releases of the MSDNAA software.
d.. Register at
https://registermsdn.one.microsoft.com/msdnaa/aa/newstep1.aspx
Free downloads are for students but the program is not free for the
institution. It is a good price, but certainly not free.
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the institution funds MSDNAA in return students and facaulty members can
recieve software for free - it is up to the institution to ensure that the
distribution medium is audited.

i get my MSDNAA software via CD - sitting on the end of a 128kb pipe (thats
what our monopolistic telecom call broadband) i sure as hell wont be
downloading the stuff.
 
Scott said:
From MS:

The MSDN Academic Alliance program is designed specifically for academic
labs, faculty, and students in the curriculum areas of Computer Science,
Engineering, and Information Systems to make it easier and less expensive
to get Microsoft developer tools, platforms, and servers for instructional
and research purposes.
Membership Details:
a.. $799 (USD) annual membership fee per department
b.. Membership runs from January 1 - December 31 or July 1-June 30
(depending on your registration date)
c.. Includes the latest releases of the MSDNAA software.
d.. Register at
https://registermsdn.one.microsoft.com/msdnaa/aa/newstep1.aspx
Free downloads are for students but the program is not free for the
institution. It is a good price, but certainly not free.
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And don't forget this:

"Requirements:

"Program software may be used only for instruction and not for profit
research--not to run the infrastructure of the department

"Membership is limited to departments within accredited educational
institutions in the US and Publicly-funded schools in Canada

"Free downloads are available only to those students (other than continuing
education students) taking credit courses within the department that is a
member of the program

"Students may not have the media, they may either download from a server or
check out CDs from a library or lab."

Now let's pick this turkey apart:

1. You can't let your secretary use Office or any other software acquired
through this. You've got to go out and buy another copy of it for her/his
use.

2. If the student's not taking courses in the department, the student can't
use the software. (S)he must deinstall it.

3. Student's HD crashes? Well, better get over to the library to get a copy
of the media to reinstall it. What? You say it happened during a time when
the library is closed and a project is due? Too bad, I guess.

Of course, we all know what's going to happen here. The CD will get borrowed
then surreptitiously copied (wink, wink from Bill Gates). The student
doesn't deinstall the software after the class/semester is over (more wink,
wink from Bill).

What a joke! Anyone with half a brain here knows this is a marketing ploy by
MS to get the software in students' hands and make them MS-centric.
Besides, CS majors tend to analyze *nix or Nachos, not Windows.

http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/tom/nachos/
 
quite simple, my educational establishment has a clue and has aquired
access to MSDNAA - a licence which grants students and facaulaty members
free access to software.
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Since you say you are from Dunedin is it Otago Uni or Otago Polytech?
 
Hi Cor , You ask the Bailo ,
" Why are you on such a Bill Gates fetish ? "

Back when he worked for Microsoft ...
Bill Gates used to ... used to ...
... I can't say it .

Let's just say it involved a dark room ,
and leave it at that .
 
Hi John Bailo ,
Re: Your Red Hat " Investments " ,
You cite ,
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=hotStocksNews&storyID=4262964
From which I quote ,
" Red Hat trades for 105 times next fiscal year's
estimated earnings "
....
" Red Hat stock has quadrupled in the past year "
....
" Red Hat ... now faces a deep-pocketed rival after
Novell Inc.'s recent acquisition of
Germany's SuSe Linux . "

Bailo always get's burned like this ...
Such is his fate .
 
Jeff Relf said:
Hi John Bailo ,
Re: Your Red Hat " Investments " ,
You cite ,
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=hotStocksNews&storyID=4262964
From which I quote ,
" Red Hat trades for 105 times next fiscal year's
estimated earnings "
...
" Red Hat stock has quadrupled in the past year "
...
" Red Hat ... now faces a deep-pocketed rival after
Novell Inc.'s recent acquisition of
Germany's SuSe Linux . "

Bailo always get's burned like this ...
Such is his fate .
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Free will or fate, the eternal question.

Maybe not his fate but his destiny and for sure his legacy.
 
Jeff Relf said:
Hi Cor , You ask the Bailo ,
" Why are you on such a Bill Gates fetish ? "

Back when he worked for Microsoft ...
Bill Gates used to ... used to ...
... I can't say it .

Let's just say it involved a dark room ,
and leave it at that .
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At least it was consensual.
 
Hi John Bailo ,
Re: Your Red Hat " Investments " ,
You cite ,
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=hotStocksNews&storyID=4262964
From which I quote ,
" Red Hat trades for 105 times next fiscal year's
estimated earnings "
...
" Red Hat stock has quadrupled in the past year "
...
" Red Hat ... now faces a deep-pocketed rival after
Novell Inc.'s recent acquisition of
Germany's SuSe Linux . "

Bailo always get's burned like this ...
Such is his fate .
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You sure worry a lot about other peoples wallets.

I only care about my own.

Why don't you get a job and make an investment and work down those $1M in
unpaid child support monies ?
 
Hi Cor , You ask the Bailo ,
" Why are you on such a Bill Gates fetish ? "

Back when he worked for Microsoft ...
Bill Gates used to ... used to ...
... I can't say it .

Let's just say it involved a dark room ,
and leave it at that .
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Good example of displacement behavior.

Jeff can't participate as an adult, so he pees on all.
 
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
I was browsing the articles in the shop when, as if by magic, Jeff Relf
suddenly appeared, at Mon, 2 Feb 2004 22:25:57 -0800 and said the following:
Hi John Bailo ,
Re: Your Red Hat " Investments " ,
You cite ,
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=hotStocksNews&storyID=4262964
From which I quote ,
" Red Hat trades for 105 times next fiscal year's
estimated earnings "
...
" Red Hat stock has quadrupled in the past year "
...
" Red Hat ... now faces a deep-pocketed rival after
Novell Inc.'s recent acquisition of
Germany's SuSe Linux . "

Bailo always get's burned like this ...
Such is his fate .
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I think the Bailo has made a giant mistake. Where linux is concerned, the
Money should be firmly placed with Novell and Sun. They are going to
be the big boys in that market over the next few years.

Not that I gamble on the stock market myself.
 
Hi John Bailo , You start off saying ,
" You sure worry a lot about other peoples wallets .
I only care about my own . "
But then you immediately contradict yourself by saying ,
" Why don't you get a job and make an investment
and work down those $1M in unpaid child support monies ? "

First off , I don't know how large those arrearages are .

Second , I love my current job ... 11 years strong now .

Third , I only invest in myself , not stocks , etc. .

fourth , I never hoard anything , not even assets .

fifth , I never over-consume , not even cash .
 
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