BEWARE: SALES OF INCOMPATIBLE RAM

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Fool me once, shame... Yes, I fell for inexpensive Micron ram on
Ebay--both well-known names with a good reputation, esp. in my usage. This
firm (NOT Ebay!) is doing what *appears* to me to be intentionally selling
HIGH-DENSITY ram to ignorant consumers like me; it is NOT compatible with
lots of motherboards. This is my 1st of several years' purchases of ram via
Ebay to go sour. Seller's username on ebay is "fastmemoryman".
The high-density part of the ad is spelled out so really can't say they
defrauded me; this is just a heads-up for others to KNOW that low-density is
generally the ddr we need for home units.
The brand, the price, and the overall ad are quite convincing. It's not
so cheap that one would likely buy umpteen dozen OR be frightened away.
I WILL say the writing on the chips has worn away quite easily. It
appears the original white label from Micron (or Crucial, or whatever
company ) has been removed and a new generic white label attached. Deep
inside, I feel--NOT KNOW, but just feel-- the Micron name, nos., and logo
are not to be relied on, based on their ease of coming off.
I need not be reminded that we've been warned. I recall my cursory
reading about the problem several times on ng's. But didn't recall which
density to avoid. Just felt this would be another decent buy on ram from
Ebay. The ad said NEW in at least 2 places & was another selling point. It
looked USED upon first inspection, as some of the chip-info was already worn
away.
So, AVOID high-density unless you KNOW that is what you can use. And
remember that several instances of such ram being advertised and sold on
ebay by username "fastmemoryman" have been confirmed by me. .....and if you
need any high-density stuff, "fastmemoryman" ships quickly! sdlomi2
 
"So, AVOID high-density unless you KNOW..."
Why?
Purchase directly from Crucial or some other known reputable source.
The seller is not indicative of the quality of Crucial products.

"the Micron name, nos., and logo are not to be relied on"
Depends on where they come from.
When I purchase directly from Crucial, I trust the labels, but they
have earned a good reputation.
Deliberately mislabeling products is not limited to RAM or even
computer products.

"The high-density part of the ad is spelled out so really can't say
they defrauded me"
I am unsure what the problem if the advertising was "spelled out".

If you feel you were misled, have you contacted the seller?
What did the seller say?
If not, you need to before spreading word that may be a
misunderstanding or similar.
 
Fool me once, shame... Yes, I fell for inexpensive Micron ram on
Ebay--both well-known names with a good reputation, esp. in my usage. This
firm (NOT Ebay!) is doing what *appears* to me to be intentionally selling
HIGH-DENSITY ram to ignorant consumers like me; it is NOT compatible with
lots of motherboards. This is my 1st of several years' purchases of ram via
Ebay to go sour. Seller's username on ebay is "fastmemoryman".
The high-density part of the ad is spelled out so really can't say they
defrauded me; this is just a heads-up for others to KNOW that low-density is
generally the ddr we need for home units.
The brand, the price, and the overall ad are quite convincing. It's not
so cheap that one would likely buy umpteen dozen OR be frightened away.
I WILL say the writing on the chips has worn away quite easily. It
appears the original white label from Micron (or Crucial, or whatever
company ) has been removed and a new generic white label attached. Deep
inside, I feel--NOT KNOW, but just feel-- the Micron name, nos., and logo
are not to be relied on, based on their ease of coming off.
I need not be reminded that we've been warned. I recall my cursory
reading about the problem several times on ng's. But didn't recall which
density to avoid. Just felt this would be another decent buy on ram from
Ebay. The ad said NEW in at least 2 places & was another selling point. It
looked USED upon first inspection, as some of the chip-info was already worn
away.
So, AVOID high-density unless you KNOW that is what you can use. And
remember that several instances of such ram being advertised and sold on
ebay by username "fastmemoryman" have been confirmed by me. .....and if you
need any high-density stuff, "fastmemoryman" ships quickly! sdlomi2
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Please take this elsewhere. It has nothing to do with the OS and is
out place in this group.
 
I believe it does belong in this newsgroup. Is not the purpose of this
newsgroup to help others with hardware related problems?
 
Jupiter said:
"So, AVOID high-density unless you KNOW..."
Why?
Purchase directly from Crucial or some other known reputable source.
The seller is not indicative of the quality of Crucial products.

"the Micron name, nos., and logo are not to be relied on"
Depends on where they come from.
When I purchase directly from Crucial, I trust the labels, but they have
earned a good reputation.
Deliberately mislabeling products is not limited to RAM or even computer
products.

"The high-density part of the ad is spelled out so really can't say they
defrauded me"
I am unsure what the problem if the advertising was "spelled out".

If you feel you were misled, have you contacted the seller?
What did the seller say?
If not, you need to before spreading word that may be a misunderstanding
or similar.
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There is a simple rule to remember.

*Don't buy 1GB DDR memory from Ebay.*

That is the rule. There is so much of that high density stuff for that
particular memory type, it is just as well to stay away.

Many other memory types, are safe to buy, at least in the sense that
the seller has no reason to do something stupid. For example, I know
of no reason to avoid DDR2 memory from Ebay. Just the usual reasons,
such as having no warranty, getting chips which are below spec, all
the usual things that even your local computer store might try :-)

Using branded RAM, especially from companies that are known to
test RAM properly and stand behind their products, can pay off
in the long run. I have a couple lots of unbranded RAM bought
on sale from local computer stores, and the stores went bankrupt.
And the RAM is dead too. The replacements for that RAM, came
straight from the Crucial web site, and still works fine. There
are plenty of competitors to Crucial, that also sell fine, tested,
products. It is the unlabeled RAM, that is the scary stuff.

Paul
 
Paul said:
There is a simple rule to remember.

*Don't buy 1GB DDR memory from Ebay.*

That is the rule. There is so much of that high density stuff for that
particular memory type, it is just as well to stay away.

Many other memory types, are safe to buy, at least in the sense that
the seller has no reason to do something stupid. For example, I know
of no reason to avoid DDR2 memory from Ebay. Just the usual reasons,
such as having no warranty, getting chips which are below spec, all
the usual things that even your local computer store might try :-)

Using branded RAM, especially from companies that are known to
test RAM properly and stand behind their products, can pay off
in the long run. I have a couple lots of unbranded RAM bought
on sale from local computer stores, and the stores went bankrupt.
And the RAM is dead too. The replacements for that RAM, came
straight from the Crucial web site, and still works fine. There
are plenty of competitors to Crucial, that also sell fine, tested,
products. It is the unlabeled RAM, that is the scary stuff.

Paul
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It is easy to tell from replies to posts who knows that some "bargains"
can be purchased. And how we can be easily misled even when the truth is
being told in an ad. It was your posts, Paul, I recalled about the
pre-warnings--thanks for them AND the gentlemanly way you refrained from the
"I told you so" routine. Some people may be able to pay full price for new
mdse; some of us cannot, and it is at those to whom I aimed this warning.
Having bought several hundred dollars' of ram from Ebay and never before
been scammed on it, I think there are likely others who may benefit from
this warning and explanation. When one has transacted business long enough
and in enough realms he realizes how a scam can take place without the
seller lying and how mdse. can be misrepresented even with its parameters
truthfully told.
This was just a heads-up to serious buyers who need to save $ by buying
less than new.
Leaving on a hopefully positive note, I hope at least some people may
benefit from this info.--both those who need to find cheaper-than-new AND
those who may benefit from learning the economics involved in utilizing
scarce resources to maximize their production.
Luck to all. Should this post help just one person in this beneficial
newsgroup, I will be happy to have returned just a tad for so much helpful
advice I've received! Thanks to all who have contributed so much.
sdlomi2
 
The ram provided by Micron to some outlets are "seconds". They may or may
not work correctly. Crucial, which is owned by Micron, only gets their
tested reliable ram.

High density ram is in itself another subject regarding use in a PC.
Dave
 
Who pulled your chain ?

I found this thread interesting, and relevant ...right up until you opened
your mouth !

regards, Richard



Please take this elsewhere. It has nothing to do with the OS and is
out place in this group.
 
If you paid through PayPal you have recourse through their dispute console
but you only have 45 days to do it.
eBay themselves also have a dispute console for you to use if you paid via
any other method.
If goods are not as described, then you will, hopefully, get a refund, if
not from the seller, from PayPal or eBay.

Peter
Toronto, Canada.
 
Peter said:
If you paid through PayPal you have recourse through their dispute console
but you only have 45 days to do it.
eBay themselves also have a dispute console for you to use if you paid via
any other method.
If goods are not as described, then you will, hopefully, get a refund, if
not from the seller, from PayPal or eBay.

Peter
Toronto, Canada.
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Tx, Richard.
s
 
So be it. Multum in parvo.


RJK said:
Who pulled your chain ?

I found this thread interesting, and relevant ...right up until you opened
your mouth !

regards, Richard




Please take this elsewhere. It has nothing to do with the OS and is
out place in this group.
Click to expand...
 
I believe it does belong in this newsgroup. Is not the purpose of this
newsgroup to help others with hardware related problems?
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Sure, IF it has to do with the OS. What memory you buy and how much
you paid/where you bought it/you got ripped off/it was a great
deal...well, NONE of that has anything to do the OS and as such is OFF
TOPIC HERE.

Further, replies belong down here, not at the top of the message.
 
AH, did I read the subject correct it says HARDWARE, not OS.
General questions about Hardware. although I do think getting ripped off has
nothing to do with hardware questions.
 
AH, did I read the subject correct it says HARDWARE, not OS.
General questions about Hardware. although I do think getting ripped off has
nothing to do with hardware questions.
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It also sayw WindowsXP before HARDWARE. That means issues with winXP
(the OS) and hardware. This post originally had nothing to do the the
OS, hence IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS GROUP.

And again, replies belong DOWN HERE.
 
replies, belong where I decide to put them!
tell ya what, call the top posting police and tell them, see what happens!
I'll tell ya already NOTHING!
 
NoConsequence said:
(the OS) and hardware. This post originally had nothing to do the the
OS, hence IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS GROUP.

And again, replies belong DOWN HERE.
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Ah, I see you took the summer off. School back in session again?

LOL

-John O
 
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