Beta 2 install failes with ACPI error

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I have an IWill DK8N dual operton motherboard, latest BIOS 1.11, and Vista
Beta 2, both 32- and 64-bit versions fail at the installation stage, blue
screening after the loading files screen with an error 0x00000A5 (subcodes
0x17 0x22).

This PC is running XP SP2 quite happily with the ACPI Multiprocessor Kernel,
as I said this is the latest BIOS available, and a fairly recent motherboard
(less than 18 months old).

I couldn't find any clues as to what the subcodes for the STOP error
indicate, which would possibly help me track down the problem.

Any ideas on how I can pin-point the issue more rather than just give up
completely on installing Beta 2?
 
Apologies for the multiple posts, the system insisted that the post failed
each time. The web-based usenet posting page seems to have some 'issues'...
 
It's OK - loads of people have been accidentally multiposting.
Not sure if it'll help much - but try and give 3 a go on this:
http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?getstarted

If it doesn't (I'm not expecting it to), then give us another shout :o)

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I had a similar problem. Check Device Manager in XP; under Computer
see if it's listed as Standard PC or ACPI type. If it's standard,
then you need to reinstall XP using the F5 switch when the screen asks
for drivers.

1. Boot from XP CD
2. When text screen asks if you want to add drivers and press F6,
press F5 instead. You will get a list of types of computers. Pick
the ACPI type that matches your system
3. Continue with Install Windows, DO NOT pick the first Repair option.
4. Setup will find your current installation. At that point, pick
Repair.
5. Should set up. After install, you can check Device Manager again
to make sure.

Note: you will have to re-install some things. You will also have to
go to Microsoft Update and there will be over 40 updates. When all is
done, you should be able to upgrade to Vista.

At least that was my experience.
 
The systems is already running the ACPI Multiprocessor Kernel, which is why
I'm bermused by the Vista installer blue screening with an ACPI error.

I'm not attempting to upgrade the existing XP installation, I have an
additional blank drive I was intending on installing Vista x64 onto, so I was
booting off the cd (since you can't run x64 setup from x86 XP) and that was
when I was getting the error.

I think my next port of call will be to install XP 64 onto the blank drive,
then try a Vista upgrade from that. I'm not entirely sure it won't completely
hose the system in the process though...

Walter said:
I had a similar problem. Check Device Manager in XP; under Computer
see if it's listed as Standard PC or ACPI type. If it's standard,
then you need to reinstall XP using the F5 switch when the screen asks
for drivers.

1. Boot from XP CD
2. When text screen asks if you want to add drivers and press F6,
press F5 instead. You will get a list of types of computers. Pick
the ACPI type that matches your system
3. Continue with Install Windows, DO NOT pick the first Repair option.
4. Setup will find your current installation. At that point, pick
Repair.
5. Should set up. After install, you can check Device Manager again
to make sure.

Note: you will have to re-install some things. You will also have to
go to Microsoft Update and there will be over 40 updates. When all is
done, you should be able to upgrade to Vista.

At least that was my experience.

--

-------------------------------------------
Walter B
walterb[at]tampabay[dot]rr[dot]com
-------------------------------------------


Andrew Clarke said:
I have an IWill DK8N dual operton motherboard, latest BIOS 1.11, and
Vista
Beta 2, both 32- and 64-bit versions fail at the installation stage,
blue
screening after the loading files screen with an error 0x00000A5
(subcodes
0x17 0x22).

This PC is running XP SP2 quite happily with the ACPI Multiprocessor
Kernel,
as I said this is the latest BIOS available, and a fairly recent
motherboard
(less than 18 months old).

I couldn't find any clues as to what the subcodes for the STOP error
indicate, which would possibly help me track down the problem.

Any ideas on how I can pin-point the issue more rather than just
give up
completely on installing Beta 2?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Update:

I installed XP 64 on a new partition, had no issues whatsoever. I double
checked that xp was running with the ACPI Mulitprocessor kernel, ran Vista
setup, it went through perfectly ok until it hit the first reboot, then the
BSoD returns with the same codes 0xA5, 0x17, 0x22.

Fortunately I'm not locked out of either XP or XP64 so I'm not left with an
unusable pc, but I'm still scratching my head as I've got no idea what could
be causing the BIOS to be non-ACPI when every other indication shows that it
clearly is.

Odd, and frustrating.

Andrew Clarke said:
The systems is already running the ACPI Multiprocessor Kernel, which is why
I'm bermused by the Vista installer blue screening with an ACPI error.

I'm not attempting to upgrade the existing XP installation, I have an
additional blank drive I was intending on installing Vista x64 onto, so I was
booting off the cd (since you can't run x64 setup from x86 XP) and that was
when I was getting the error.

I think my next port of call will be to install XP 64 onto the blank drive,
then try a Vista upgrade from that. I'm not entirely sure it won't completely
hose the system in the process though...

Walter said:
I had a similar problem. Check Device Manager in XP; under Computer
see if it's listed as Standard PC or ACPI type. If it's standard,
then you need to reinstall XP using the F5 switch when the screen asks
for drivers.

1. Boot from XP CD
2. When text screen asks if you want to add drivers and press F6,
press F5 instead. You will get a list of types of computers. Pick
the ACPI type that matches your system
3. Continue with Install Windows, DO NOT pick the first Repair option.
4. Setup will find your current installation. At that point, pick
Repair.
5. Should set up. After install, you can check Device Manager again
to make sure.

Note: you will have to re-install some things. You will also have to
go to Microsoft Update and there will be over 40 updates. When all is
done, you should be able to upgrade to Vista.

At least that was my experience.

--

-------------------------------------------
Walter B
walterb[at]tampabay[dot]rr[dot]com
-------------------------------------------


Andrew Clarke said:
I have an IWill DK8N dual operton motherboard, latest BIOS 1.11, and
Vista
Beta 2, both 32- and 64-bit versions fail at the installation stage,
blue
screening after the loading files screen with an error 0x00000A5
(subcodes
0x17 0x22).

This PC is running XP SP2 quite happily with the ACPI Multiprocessor
Kernel,
as I said this is the latest BIOS available, and a fairly recent
motherboard
(less than 18 months old).

I couldn't find any clues as to what the subcodes for the STOP error
indicate, which would possibly help me track down the problem.

Any ideas on how I can pin-point the issue more rather than just
give up
completely on installing Beta 2?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I am suffering with the same thing!
I have tried burning a second disk as I found that despite the disk checks
out OK, I have encountered copy errors etc. Is there a means in Vista setup
of supplying a driver for this ACPI jobbie like on the good old blue screens
in the text based installation of Windows XP?



Andrew Clarke said:
Update:

I installed XP 64 on a new partition, had no issues whatsoever. I double
checked that xp was running with the ACPI Mulitprocessor kernel, ran Vista
setup, it went through perfectly ok until it hit the first reboot, then
the
BSoD returns with the same codes 0xA5, 0x17, 0x22.

Fortunately I'm not locked out of either XP or XP64 so I'm not left with
an
unusable pc, but I'm still scratching my head as I've got no idea what
could
be causing the BIOS to be non-ACPI when every other indication shows that
it
clearly is.

Odd, and frustrating.

Andrew Clarke said:
The systems is already running the ACPI Multiprocessor Kernel, which is
why
I'm bermused by the Vista installer blue screening with an ACPI error.

I'm not attempting to upgrade the existing XP installation, I have an
additional blank drive I was intending on installing Vista x64 onto, so I
was
booting off the cd (since you can't run x64 setup from x86 XP) and that
was
when I was getting the error.

I think my next port of call will be to install XP 64 onto the blank
drive,
then try a Vista upgrade from that. I'm not entirely sure it won't
completely
hose the system in the process though...

Walter said:
I had a similar problem. Check Device Manager in XP; under Computer
see if it's listed as Standard PC or ACPI type. If it's standard,
then you need to reinstall XP using the F5 switch when the screen asks
for drivers.

1. Boot from XP CD
2. When text screen asks if you want to add drivers and press F6,
press F5 instead. You will get a list of types of computers. Pick
the ACPI type that matches your system
3. Continue with Install Windows, DO NOT pick the first Repair option.
4. Setup will find your current installation. At that point, pick
Repair.
5. Should set up. After install, you can check Device Manager again
to make sure.

Note: you will have to re-install some things. You will also have to
go to Microsoft Update and there will be over 40 updates. When all is
done, you should be able to upgrade to Vista.

At least that was my experience.

--

-------------------------------------------
Walter B
walterb[at]tampabay[dot]rr[dot]com
-------------------------------------------


message I have an IWill DK8N dual operton motherboard, latest BIOS 1.11, and
Vista
Beta 2, both 32- and 64-bit versions fail at the installation stage,
blue
screening after the loading files screen with an error 0x00000A5
(subcodes
0x17 0x22).

This PC is running XP SP2 quite happily with the ACPI Multiprocessor
Kernel,
as I said this is the latest BIOS available, and a fairly recent
motherboard
(less than 18 months old).

I couldn't find any clues as to what the subcodes for the STOP error
indicate, which would possibly help me track down the problem.

Any ideas on how I can pin-point the issue more rather than just
give up
completely on installing Beta 2?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Same sort of problem here, with a Mitac 8170 - P4 2Ghz with 512 of RAM with
latest bios..

I made some investigation and it seems like vista is really more fastidious
on acpi than olders windows..

I look at the DSDT ACPI Tables of my own computer, andI got no real error,
juste only some minor warnings, and nothings that should make visat claim
that the computer is not ACPI compliant...

May be there is something wrong with the ACPI Check...

Some more informations about checking ACPI :
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122145

The more suprisly is that I got an older PC (an HP Paviliion with an really
old Althon 1Ghz, that have more error in ACPI and Vista boot without
complain...)


Does someone know a way to contact more directly the ms team about vista ?
I will really be happy to help for improving vista on laptops (or others
hardware..)
 
Has anyone been able to run vista on a laptop, sounds like most of the ACPI
problems are coming from laptops, such a shame really I want have this
product running on my machine, but if current ACPI problems continue I dont
think I'll be buying vista after all
 
I have a Asus M6N Laptop with the same issue. I have the newest bios and
have tried everything suggested with no success. I tried a brand new hard
drive. Is there a way to skip the setup from checking ACPI.. Why would a
power saving feature affect an installation of an operating system. Looks
like lots of ppl having this problem. When will MS post a doc or actually
try fixing this problem. I too ordered the DVD and it may be a complete
waste of my money....
 
I have a Asus M6N Laptop with the same issue. I have the newest bios and
have tried everything suggested with no success. I tried a brand new hard
drive. Is there a way to skip the setup from checking ACPI.. Why would a
power saving feature affect an installation of an operating system. Looks
like lots of ppl having this problem. When will MS post a doc or actually
try fixing this problem. I too ordered the DVD and it may be a complete
waste of my money....
 
My computer is an "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" according to the device manager. Too
bad Vista doesn't see that the same way XP does...

Walter said:
I had a similar problem. Check Device Manager in XP; under Computer
see if it's listed as Standard PC or ACPI type. If it's standard,
then you need to reinstall XP using the F5 switch when the screen asks
for drivers.

1. Boot from XP CD
2. When text screen asks if you want to add drivers and press F6,
press F5 instead. You will get a list of types of computers. Pick
the ACPI type that matches your system
3. Continue with Install Windows, DO NOT pick the first Repair option.
4. Setup will find your current installation. At that point, pick
Repair.
5. Should set up. After install, you can check Device Manager again
to make sure.

Note: you will have to re-install some things. You will also have to
go to Microsoft Update and there will be over 40 updates. When all is
done, you should be able to upgrade to Vista.

At least that was my experience.

--

-------------------------------------------
Walter B
walterb[at]tampabay[dot]rr[dot]com
-------------------------------------------


Andrew Clarke said:
I have an IWill DK8N dual operton motherboard, latest BIOS 1.11, and
Vista
Beta 2, both 32- and 64-bit versions fail at the installation stage,
blue
screening after the loading files screen with an error 0x00000A5
(subcodes
0x17 0x22).

This PC is running XP SP2 quite happily with the ACPI Multiprocessor
Kernel,
as I said this is the latest BIOS available, and a fairly recent
motherboard
(less than 18 months old).

I couldn't find any clues as to what the subcodes for the STOP error
indicate, which would possibly help me track down the problem.

Any ideas on how I can pin-point the issue more rather than just
give up
completely on installing Beta 2?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Why do I get the feeling that they did not bother to test beta2 on any
laptops before they put it out. It make it a worthless exercise to atempt it.
I have tried to install through Windows XP to enable the dual boot option and
it extracts all the files then starts to expand them then crashes/reboots to
a BSoD. I have run all manner of tests on the BIOS and all have come back
saying fully ACPI 1 compliant. My BIOS is a Phoenix 4.0 Release 6.0.
 
I think the main reasoning that Vista is having so many problems is down to
the new low power system state that they are working on with different
system manufacturers. The problem is however that creating a new standard is
a good idea so that different devices will work with each other but if
something isn't done, it will lead to incompatibility like we are suffering
with.

I started a thread a few days back covering my findings with installing
Windows Vista on a Toshiba laptop. At pressent it appears that not many
Toshiba laptops are having much success. I have however attempted it just on
a Toshiba Eqium A60-155. I haven't had any issues with the ACPI however as
it claims that I have insufficient RAM and there is an error when extracting
files. (It gets better and better!!!)

On the upside for Compaq (HP) laptop users, I have managed to install Vista
on a Presario V4300 without any issues. One slight bug with the audio
however, I have also noticed this on my desktop computer.

Does anyone have any connections with Toshiba to submit this information so
that they can prepare their products for Vista or would it just be ignoored?
 
I went to the Toshiba forums and their position is that since Vista is only a
beta, no support will be offered...
 
Well I serious do think that it is rediculous. I mean no-one is asking for
premium support however does it not occur to them that they would be
collecting technical data for free from the public? Considering that, would
it not also cut corners and save time for their tech department etc?

The world is going mad!!!

We don't want support (ish). We would like an information exchange. i.e. we
tell you our findings so that they can get their products ready for
production with Vista and they tell us how to fix this issues so that we
can run vista on our laptops now and get all of these bugs ironed out ready
for getting the final retail.

See - I can make as much sense (hopefully more) then they did! :S
 
Same / similar problems on my Gateway 200arc - XP and gateway claim it's
ACPI compliant, but vista disagrees :(

Newest Phoenix BIOS release is from july 2004, gateway was no help.

Wonder if there's a way to contact Phoenix, or if it is in fact a Vista
problem?
 
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