Best way to copy ripped wmas from WMP 10 to WMP11 dual boot

[Chad Harris]

I need help with this problem; know there is a solution. I have about 500
or more CDs ripped on an XP boot on drive C:\ as wma files in WMP10 in
Windows XPPSP2.

I have Vista on my E:\ with WMP11. After a complicated struggle with an
unbelievable number of steps to get my sound driver to work, I want to be
able to copy my WMP10 ripped files into WMP11 so I don't have to rip the CDs
on the Vista boot one by one.

Can I just copy (right click drag or copy paste or use the copy listing) My
Music on the XP boot (2.42GB, 1177 Files, 128 folders to a folder on my
E:\Drive and will it be associated or integrated into WMP 11 on the Vista
boot on E:\ or do I have to burn this to a DVD and then copy from DVD?

What's the best way to get my ripped music from XP on C:\ to Vista on E:\???

Many thanks,

Chad Harris

 

[Mike Williams]

I need help with this problem; know there is a solution. I have about 500
or more CDs ripped on an XP boot on drive C:\ as wma files in WMP10 in
Windows XPPSP2.

I have Vista on my E:\ with WMP11. After a complicated struggle with an
unbelievable number of steps to get my sound driver to work, I want to be
able to copy my WMP10 ripped files into WMP11 so I don't have to rip the CDs
on the Vista boot one by one.

Can I just copy (right click drag or copy paste or use the copy listing) My
Music on the XP boot (2.42GB, 1177 Files, 128 folders to a folder on my
E:\Drive and will it be associated or integrated into WMP 11 on the Vista
boot on E:\ or do I have to burn this to a DVD and then copy from DVD?

What's the best way to get my ripped music from XP on C:\ to Vista on E:\???

Don't multipost. See response on whatever newsgroup I found you on first.

 

[Mike]

Should someone asking this question really be using a beata OS?

-Mike

 

[Zack Whittaker]

Use FreeRIP - just Google it and it should come up. Just rip the CD's again
to MP3 instead )

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[Puppy Breath]

I haven't tried this. But intuitively it seems you should be able to just
add the existing songs to WMP 11 without copying or moving anything. In WMP
11 click the arrow under the Library button and choose Add to Library. Click
Advanced Options>>, click Add, and add that folder full of songs to the list
of monitored folders. They should come in looking exactly like they do in
WMP 10.

 

[Chad Harris]

Considering that the someone can answer scores of questions from Beta
Testers who are MVPs and including some of the ones *you pose* and you will
see that, I'd say "hell yes." Fortunately, you will never be making that
decision and I beta test as much if not more than you do. I work hard to
contribute with bugs, and in the groups, and I don't substitute mud slinging
with childish invective.

You can contribute as a beta tester, file good bugs, and have easily as
good or better understanding of Windows or a Beta OS as Mike Williams
without having had a lot of dual boot experience. Many Beta testers,
including scores of MSFT MVPs are afraid to dual boot. Once someone dual
boots just once, it doesn't take long to learn the tips and tricks to make
it successful to apply them for any situation in the future.

Also, it is easy to find solutions without asking the question, and I have
several, but smarter to get ideas you might not think of on your first dual
boot. There is no dual boot aficianado requirement to beta testing.

Your answer to this is quintissentially inane.

"I believe there are index errors in the latter which can quickly ruin your
files."

If you 'believe there are', why haven't you bugged it and why haven't you
documented what you bugged?"

"You should have no difficult copying the files over to the new
partition."

That's true if you do them one by one but you will hav trouble just copying
My Music and you didn't touch on that.

"You will have to go through basically the same steps to add
pre-ripped files to WMP11 as with WMP10."

The best non-answer I've ever seen. Of course you could rip them one by one
physically placing the CD in the drive, but you don't have to go through
basically the same steps to add pre-ripped files--you can copy individual
ripped WMAs a lot faster than you can physically rip them all over again.

As to dual posts, I don't make a habbit,l but do it when I some groups have
thousands montoring and won't get a response and others have very few. I've
seen many MVPs on beta and non-beta groups making posts to 5-6 posts
chronically.

So far what I got was a Mike Williams response which is worse than none.
It appears at this point in time that scores of Beta testers can't get Vista
onto their box, nor can they get a DVD burned to get Vista onto their box.
A large number of them are MSFT MVPs who are old enough to have tested every
Beta Windows OS.

No one has responded to Mike Williams' posed questions over the years with
the question as to whether Mike Williams should perhaps be using a sewing
machine instead of a computer although many questions he has had are easily
answered.

Chad Harris
____________________________

 

[Mike Williams]

"I believe there are index errors in the latter which can quickly ruin your
files."

" If you 'believe there are', why haven't you bugged it and why haven't you

documented what you bugged?"

It was bugged by me last week. I don't think anyone is posting as many
detailed issues with the WMP library as I am so I have no other
experiences to compare it with.

"You should have no difficult copying the files over to the new
partition."

That's true if you do them one by one but you will hav trouble just copying
My Music and you didn't touch on that.

I've not had any such problem. I've been dual-booting for several months
now. If specific problems are encountered then they will have to be
addressed on a per-problem basis because it's a beta and experiences
vary dramatically.

"You will have to go through basically the same steps to add
pre-ripped files to WMP11 as with WMP10."

The best non-answer I've ever seen. Of course you could rip them one by one
physically placing the CD in the drive, but you don't have to go through
basically the same steps to add pre-ripped files--you can copy individual
ripped WMAs a lot faster than you can physically rip them all over again.

I said "pre-ripped". It takes about 30-seconds for someone with WMP11 to
verify that the UI for adding files to the library has barely altered
from v10.

As to dual posts, I don't make a habbit,l but do it when I some groups have
thousands montoring and won't get a response and others have very few. I've
seen many MVPs on beta and non-beta groups making posts to 5-6 posts
chronically.

It's a bad habit. Period.

So far what I got was a Mike Williams response which is worse than none.
It appears at this point in time that scores of Beta testers can't get Vista
onto their box, nor can they get a DVD burned to get Vista onto their box.
A large number of them are MSFT MVPs who are old enough to have tested every
Beta Windows OS.

I'm sorry, and your point is ...?

No one has responded to Mike Williams' posed questions

which questions would those be?

over the years with

the question as to whether Mike Williams should perhaps be using a sewing
machine instead of a computer although many questions he has had are easily
answered.

Chad Harris

Well done Chad. Back to the sewing machine newsgroups now.

 

[Chad Harris]

"Should someone asking this question [on the best way to copy WMP files from
one drive to the next] really be using a beata (sic) OS?"

How delusional is it for Mike Williams to believe he's qualified to question
someone else's constructive use of a Beta OS?

I think you meant a Beta OS. Then you could explore the question of to what
extent RTMs are perpetual betas. Should the largest software company on
the planet be issuing an operating system in a context where 500 million OEM
non-enterprise desktops render the users powerless to do a repair install
because they weren't warned to get an XP CD and the non-destructive recovery
CDs, and other recovery CDs have such a high repair failure rate they don't
even make competent frisbees?

MIke Williams: "It's a bad habit. Period." It's egregiously stupid to
question whether someone should be beta testing simply because they posed a
question on copying Windows Media files from one drive to another. That's
the poster child for "a bad habit" you need to correct. You should be
working on providing a competent answer before you put yourself in the
category of judging whether a question disqualifies someone from being a
productive beta tester.

You can copy files within XP from its drive to a Vista dual boot drive all
day long. You can't boot Vista and copy *those same files* from the XP
drive/boot from within Vista to the Vista drive. How many Beta testers do
you think have a high quality answer as to why? Where's the quintessential
Mike Williams high quality answer to that.

I expect the ratio of people who would answer yes to your question would
flood the ratio of nos. *Why don't you float that baloon on the Beta
newsgroups as well as here? What stopped you from displaying your usual
reflex for comity to your fellow Beta testers?*

Accompany that post with your proposal to Microsoft that they start paying
you to get the appropriate people Beta testing.

I suggest you spend your time improving the multiple Mike Williams learning
curves with Vista, Windows in general, Office, other MSFT software, and a PC
before you make judgemental "shoot from the hip calls" based on ignorance of
whether a user you don't know is qualified to test a beta.

Why don't you set yourself up as a self-appointed Board Examiner for Vista
Beta testing with the 'Mike Williams Panopoly of criteria and publish them
on the Beta Newsgroups questioning all those you believe Beta challenged or
inferior to the Mike Williams standards *on the Beta groups* announcing that
you've been self annointed and appointed to pass judgement on who should be
testing or using a Beta. You could also knock yourself out crafting an
aptitude test.

That way you can reside in a milieu adhering to the high standards your '
Mike Williams legend in your own mind attitude think's it is entitled to'.

"It takes about 30-seconds for someone with WMP11 to
verify that the UI for adding files to the library has barely altered
from v10."

And this is on point to what? Why don't you get it changed and shape the
library up to Mike Williams' standards of excellence?

A number of components of Vista have no changes at all from prior Windows
versions. If you have constructive changes, why don't you email members of
the teams who own WMP 11 including Zach Robinson ( Windows Media Development
Team) who often helps on the WMP public groups. Why not post your
innovations on the WMP team blogs and comments on Chris Lanier's blogs?

You're an MVP--you get to Redmond on a regular basis. Why don't you make an
appointment with the people who own that library and straighten them out and
get them adhering to the Williams standards of Windows Media development and
share on the Beta newsgroup what you did to improve the product and shape
them up.

I look forward to your high quality pearls of wisdom on the Vista beta
groups.

If you're in Redmond this week, why don't you apply for the job you're
proposing you do? Why not join the WMP teams or windows media teams? Make
sure you're surrounded with people of Mike Williams caliber to pose
questions on groups.

Chad Harris
____________________

 

[Mike]

Actually, it was me that wrote that and while my name is Mike, I am not Mike
Williams (and have no idea, and don't really care who he is). Mike is a
common name and while I've been thinking about changing my post name to
something witty and unique, I haven't gotten around to it.

I believe the post above mine has your solution. As far as what I wrote, I
wasn't (really) trying to insult you. It appeared that you were asking how
to copy files from one partition to another and/or how to import music into
the WMP library. Now, maybe there's something more going on here like a DRM
or encrypted file issue, but if so, you didn't mention it in your post.
Hence my smartass reply to what perceived as a very basic question being
asked by a user of a beta operating system.

And you're right, I meant beta (not whatever the hell I mistyped) and rarely
take the time to make my posts perfect (I give newsgroup posts just a hair
more focus than I do to IM's). So let me save you some time and admit that
it was an as*hole thing to write, but I didn't think it was really gonna'
ruin anyone's day.

Also, I'm a loser, a know-nothing, and don't belong using OS's or newsgroups
at all. If I left anything out that you feel you need to say, then by all
means reply. Otherwise, let a simple joke go and move on with your day.

-Mike

 

[Mike Williams]

"Should someone asking this question [on the best way to copy WMP files from
one drive to the next] really be using a beata (sic) OS?"

How delusional is it for Mike Williams to believe he's qualified to question
someone else's constructive use of a Beta OS?

It looks like your conflating replies from some other person or persons
under my name as well. Not to mention tagging replies for one comment to
another.

You can copy files within XP from its drive to a Vista dual boot drive all
day long. You can't boot Vista and copy *those same files* from the XP
drive/boot from within Vista to the Vista drive. How many Beta testers do
you think have a high quality answer as to why? Where's the quintessential
Mike Williams high quality answer to that.

Do you have any high-quality answers to anythng Chad?

I expect the ratio of people who would answer yes to your question would
flood the ratio of nos. *Why don't you float that baloon on the Beta
newsgroups as well as here? What stopped you from displaying your usual
reflex for comity to your fellow Beta testers?*

Which question are you talking about? You wander around

Accompany that post with your proposal to Microsoft that they start paying
you to get the appropriate people Beta testing.

I suggest you spend your time improving the multiple Mike Williams learning
curves with Vista, Windows in general, Office, other MSFT software, and a PC
before you make judgemental "shoot from the hip calls" based on ignorance of
whether a user you don't know is qualified to test a beta.

Again, you're flaming the wrong person. You did that last year when you
started flaming me.

A number of components of Vista have no changes at all from prior Windows
versions. If you have constructive changes, why don't you email members of
the teams who own WMP 11 including Zach Robinson ( Windows Media Development
Team) who often helps on the WMP public groups. Why not post your
innovations on the WMP team blogs and comments on Chris Lanier's blogs?

I have and I do. Please keep up Chad, the world has moved on since you
last woke up.

You're an MVP--you get to Redmond on a regular basis.

I'm not an MVP.

Why don't you make an
appointment with the people who own that library and straighten them out and
get them adhering to the Williams standards of Windows Media development and
share on the Beta newsgroup what you did to improve the product and shape
them up.

Actually they made an appointment with me last time I was there and
failed to follow up.

 

[Chad Harris]

1) I saw this and it was easy to confuse you with the other Mike. Its rare
to have two Mike's post back to back and this was the tag line for one of
the other Mike's post. It sure looks like Mike Williams to me.


2) You ducked the question here--why not just say "I'm Mike Williams and I
don't know the answer or I'm Mike Williams and I have no clue."

You can copy files within XP from its drive to a Vista dual boot drive all
day long. You can't boot Vista and copy *those same files* from the XP
drive/boot from within Vista to the Vista drive. How many Beta testers do
you think have a high quality answer as to why? Where's the quintessential
Mike Williams high quality answer to that?

3) If you care deeply enough to make an appointment with them and travel to
Redmond for whatever reason and to talk about it and they failed to follow
up why would the capable person you perceive yourself to be just sit on it?

Why don't you stay in their face until they fix what you think is broken? A
lot of bug reports being validated are being thrown away apparently. That
may be what it takes considering right now Vista can break with a simple run
of an SFC and several people are finding it out.

Instead of throwing perjorative terms at what Chad Harris writes that you
don't like?

If you're so opposed to multiposting,why haven't you scoled individuals
(hundreds) that find it necessary to multipost on Beta groups because tthere
is often more than one appropriate group for the post and the subspecialty
group has a much smaller ratio of people who monitor it or even know it's
there. They probably post in a subspecialty group because they hope it gets
noticed by MSFT and their motive is getting the bug fixed. As you have
found out, that's tough to get done sometime and the bug RTMS and then we
both end up fixing them in groups.

After posting in several places, I was finally able to get two workable
answers, and none of them was yours. Your answer was that WMP10 hadn't
changed from WMP11. Why not have mentioned the library as Puppybreath
didunless you think it won't work and that's what you're trying to imply
between the lines? or propose a solution to a sincere question like Zack did
?

Chad Harris
__________________________________________

"Should someone asking this question [on the best way to copy WMP files
from one drive to the next] really be using a beata (sic) OS?"

How delusional is it for Mike Williams to believe he's qualified to
question someone else's constructive use of a Beta OS?

It looks like your conflating replies from some other person or persons
under my name as well. Not to mention tagging replies for one comment to
another.

You can copy files within XP from its drive to a Vista dual boot drive
all day long. You can't boot Vista and copy *those same files* from the
XP drive/boot from within Vista to the Vista drive. How many Beta
testers do you think have a high quality answer as to why? Where's the
quintessential Mike Williams high quality answer to that.

Do you have any high-quality answers to anythng Chad?

I expect the ratio of people who would answer yes to your question would
flood the ratio of nos. *Why don't you float that baloon on the Beta
newsgroups as well as here? What stopped you from displaying your usual
reflex for comity to your fellow Beta testers?*

Which question are you talking about? You wander around

Accompany that post with your proposal to Microsoft that they start
paying you to get the appropriate people Beta testing.

I suggest you spend your time improving the multiple Mike Williams
learning curves with Vista, Windows in general, Office, other MSFT
software, and a PC before you make judgemental "shoot from the hip calls"
based on ignorance of whether a user you don't know is qualified to test
a beta.

Again, you're flaming the wrong person. You did that last year when you
started flaming me.

A number of components of Vista have no changes at all from prior Windows
versions. If you have constructive changes, why don't you email members
of the teams who own WMP 11 including Zach Robinson ( Windows Media
Development Team) who often helps on the WMP public groups. Why not post
your innovations on the WMP team blogs and comments on Chris Lanier's
blogs?

I have and I do. Please keep up Chad, the world has moved on since you
last woke up.

You're an MVP--you get to Redmond on a regular basis.

I'm not an MVP.

Why don't you make an appointment with the people who own that library
and straighten them out and get them adhering to the Williams standards
of Windows Media development and share on the Beta newsgroup what you did
to improve the product and shape them up.

Actually they made an appointment with me last time I was there and failed
to follow up.

 

[Mike Williams]

1) I saw this and it was easy to confuse you with the other Mike. Its rare
to have two Mike's post back to back and this was the tag line for one of
the other Mike's post. It sure looks like Mike Williams to me.

news:[email protected]...

I suppose that's as close to an apology as you can come up with.

2) You ducked the question here--why not just say "I'm Mike Williams and I
don't know the answer or I'm Mike Williams and I have no clue."

You can copy files within XP from its drive to a Vista dual boot drive all
day long. You can't boot Vista and copy *those same files* from the XP
drive/boot from within Vista to the Vista drive. How many Beta testers do
you think have a high quality answer as to why? Where's the quintessential
Mike Williams high quality answer to that?

Yes you can. I do it pretty much every day. However you will get
specific issues according to whether the source and/or destination
folders were created within XP or Vista. The problem is theoretically
soluble short term by playing with the folder ACLs from the Vista side
but I haven't verified that yet.

3) If you care deeply enough to make an appointment with them and travel to
Redmond for whatever reason and to talk about it and they failed to follow
up why would the capable person you perceive yourself to be just sit on it?

I happened to be in the US and in Seattle that week. I had plenty of
friends to visit on Microsoft campus on one particular day. So I failed
to get stirred up by not having one meeting. They asked to talk to me
and didn't follow up. You care more deeply about it than I.

Why don't you stay in their face until they fix what you think is broken? A
lot of bug reports being validated are being thrown away apparently. That
may be what it takes considering right now Vista can break with a simple run
of an SFC and several people are finding it out.

I have been in their face for about three years now via betas, the MVP
program administrators and my blog http://msmvps.com/thinice which
provides a lot of tracking detail for WMP-specific issues.

Instead of throwing perjorative terms at what Chad Harris writes that you
don't like?
Que?


If you're so opposed to multiposting,why haven't you scoled individuals
(hundreds) that find it necessary to multipost on Beta groups because tthere
is often more than one appropriate group for the post and the subspecialty
group has a much smaller ratio of people who monitor it or even know it's
there. They probably post in a subspecialty group because they hope it gets
noticed by MSFT and their motive is getting the bug fixed. As you have
found out, that's tough to get done sometime and the bug RTMS and then we
both end up fixing them in groups.

I look in a small number of newsgroups. If someone is multiposting
blindly without waiting for a response then I will say something. If I
don't and it's a heavily patrolled newsgroup (eg windowsxp.general) then
it's likely that you'll get flamed by someone else.

After posting in several places, I was finally able to get two workable
answers, and none of them was yours. Your answer was that WMP10 hadn't
changed from WMP11.

The track acquisition process hasn't changed much from the end-user
perspective. That's all I said.

Why not have mentioned the library as Puppybreath

didunless you think it won't work and that's what you're trying to imply
between the lines? or propose a solution to a sincere question like Zack did
?

I have no idea what you're trying to imply here.

 

[Puppy Breath]

I still think you should just make your existing music folder one of the
monitored folders in WMP 11. But if you want to copy them, you should be
able to do so with plain old drag-and-drop or copy-and-paste procedures.
Same as always. You might have to go into File and Printer Sharing in
Control Panel to loosen things up first, I forget what the defaults were in
there.

(Puppy scurries away with tail between legs)