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Can someone point me to where I can join the best class action suit for the
time and money wasted trying to upgrade from win xp pro sp2 to vista
business. After going through the process on two computers that passed the
upgrade advisor, and getting thru 2 reboots, only to have the process fail,
it is clear that Microsoft continues to offer a product that does not live up
to billing.
 
Spoken like a True Blue American...
If I can't get it to work it must be their fault............lets sue!!
peter
 
Ed said:
Can someone point me to where I can join the best class action suit for
the
time and money wasted trying to upgrade from win xp pro sp2 to vista
business. After going through the process on two computers that passed
the
upgrade advisor, and getting thru 2 reboots, only to have the process
fail,
it is clear that Microsoft continues to offer a product that does not live
up
to billing.
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No, but I'm sure that if you look in the Yellow Pages of your local
phone book, I'm sure that you'll be able to find a New Horizons, ExecuTrain,
or other technical institute that'll be willing (for a fee, of course) to
teach your the rudiments of computer maintenance. You know, something like
an entry-level A+ class should impart the basic skills you apparently need.


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Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard

Just because you wasted your time, maybe you were negligent in performing
your duties with regards to the upgrade. Did you have the proper training
and expertise to perform such duties? Maybe your hardware is faulty. Who
knows.

If not, so you think you can sue MicroSquish for your shortcomings? Good
luck :-)

Maybe the people in this newsgroup will start a class action suite going
after people who post stupid messages!
 
Amen and Amen!

Bill Yanaire said:
Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard

Just because you wasted your time, maybe you were negligent in performing
your duties with regards to the upgrade. Did you have the proper training
and expertise to perform such duties? Maybe your hardware is faulty. Who
knows.

If not, so you think you can sue MicroSquish for your shortcomings? Good
luck :-)

Maybe the people in this newsgroup will start a class action suite going
after people who post stupid messages!
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Please explain (in the most skilful impersonation of someone with technical
ability you can manage) what he supposedly did wrong?

I have machines that pass the upgrade test with no problem but Vista fails
to install on any of them. If you actually had any experience yourself you
might notice that during an OS install there's not much you can do apart
from answer a couple of simple questions...
 
If the OP is unhappy with Vista, Microsoft offers a money back
guarantee program.
As for the Upgrade Advisor, I'm sure it comes with all sorts of
disclaimers. There is no way MS can guarantee certainty, given
the thousands of variations of PC hardware out there.

Gary VanderMolen
 
Apart from coming in here looking for class action lawsuits?

The OP has given nothing to go on other than they both failed to upgrade..
we are told that both passed the UA, but did the OP do any research where
the UA wasn't sure about some stuff?

Did the OP disconnect all peripheral devices even though they may have been
passed by the UA?

Has the OP come here looking for help with the installations? No.. the OP
wants to sue MS.. well, Charlie, this isn't the place for that kind of
info..


Charlie Tame said:
Please explain (in the most skilful impersonation of someone with
technical ability you can manage) what he supposedly did wrong?

I have machines that pass the upgrade test with no problem but Vista fails
to install on any of them. If you actually had any experience yourself you
might notice that during an OS install there's not much you can do apart
from answer a couple of simple questions...
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I appreciate all of that but I saw nothing the OP said that justifies
treating him / her as an idiot.

This actual PC I am using for example - installing Vista results in a black
screen after a while and then nothing. In fact Vista has installed and is
saying "Press space bar" but the default drivers switch to a different
display so the user never sees the message.

Unless the user has seen this before, or just happens to guess, it appears
that the install has failed, yet advisor says it will work. Well, of course,
it does work, but nevertheless it would be understandable for a person with
only the one computer to become annoyed by the apparent deception.

Charlie
 
... and that is worth a class action lawsuit? Only in America..


Charlie Tame said:
I appreciate all of that but I saw nothing the OP said that justifies
treating him / her as an idiot.

This actual PC I am using for example - installing Vista results in a
black screen after a while and then nothing. In fact Vista has installed
and is saying "Press space bar" but the default drivers switch to a
different display so the user never sees the message.

Unless the user has seen this before, or just happens to guess, it appears
that the install has failed, yet advisor says it will work. Well, of
course, it does work, but nevertheless it would be understandable for a
person with only the one computer to become annoyed by the apparent
deception.

Charlie
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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
I do not disagree but OTOH the responses came back as if provided by
dedicated Microsoft shills intent on belittling anyone with the slightest
criticism :)

I don't believe it does any good to have publicity such as that Vista
received, which implies (Because those without experience assume that by
default) that installing Vista will be completely trouble free and bring
huge improvements. Yes there are some improvements but even with the latest
hardware (in some cases worse with new hardware) there are also problems.

I'm really just playing Devil's advocate somewhat, but it can get very
frustrating (Especially with 64 and driver issues) trying to install
something that repeatedly fails with no obvious reason.

Charlie
 
Charlie Tame said:
Please explain (in the most skilful impersonation of someone with
technical ability you can manage) what he supposedly did wrong?
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No way of knowing, as the OP was clearly mindlessly venting and didn't
want to include any information that could have told others what he did or
didn't do.

I have machines that pass the upgrade test with no problem but Vista fails
to install on any of them.
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Curious. I've yet to see it fail.

If you actually had any experience yourself you might notice that during an
OS install there's not much you can do apart from answer a couple of simple
questions...
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Which is what makes it so very hard to screw up. While there's no way
the upgrade advisor can ever be 100% correct, it generally provides the
information necessary to bring a computer "up to par" and to minimize
problems. Of course, one has to follow that advice....


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deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

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Charlie

I don't think that anybody here maintains that Vista will be trouble free
for all users.. for some, as I found personally, Vista works really quite
well.. the driver situation has been something of a lottery to date, and
still remains so for some.. there are programs that are never going to run
on Vista, regardless of any compatibility mode, and some even quite old
programs that will be ok.. some program installation routines have specific
OS identifiers coded in, others don't.. MS can do nothing about that.. it is
a marketing ploy on the part of the program authors.. you may have noticed
that some programs install in two parts.. even if you can get the first part
to work in compatibility mode, there is no way to intercept the second
part.. all clever stuff, eh..

The Upgrade Advisor is exactly that.. an advisor, not a guarantee that all
will be ok.. the Advisor states which version is best for the machine based
on RAM and video capability as much as anything, but few of the complainers
state what was advised and what they tried to install.. so we have a
situation where an OP has been advised that Vista Basic is best but who has
maybe taken it upon him/herself to install Ultimate.. these kind of
scenarios are always going to end in tears, but to come here wielding wrath
as some do is not going to help, and just sets those who could help into a
defensive stance..


Charlie Tame said:
I do not disagree but OTOH the responses came back as if provided by
dedicated Microsoft shills intent on belittling anyone with the slightest
criticism :)

I don't believe it does any good to have publicity such as that Vista
received, which implies (Because those without experience assume that by
default) that installing Vista will be completely trouble free and bring
huge improvements. Yes there are some improvements but even with the
latest hardware (in some cases worse with new hardware) there are also
problems.

I'm really just playing Devil's advocate somewhat, but it can get very
frustrating (Especially with 64 and driver issues) trying to install
something that repeatedly fails with no obvious reason.

Charlie
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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
Spoken like a True Blue American...
If I can't get it to work it must be their fault............lets sue!!
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That's one way of looking at it. Another is that it's a pretty good
thing to have meaningful recourse to law to address any problems you
may have (as opposed to extra-legal solutions).

Taking the query at face value; I'd do some Internet searches on
likely keywords to see if such an action is in progress, and what the
basis for it may be. Presumably the basis would have to be a
mis-match between "bait" (your pre-installation "can I do this and
will it work?" checks) and "switch" (your actual mileage).


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