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What's the best chipset for a P4 in socket 478 ? Intel? Sis ? Via ?
Thanks for any informed opinions !
-RS-
Thanks for any informed opinions !
-RS-
Intel.What's the best chipset for a P4 in socket 478 ? Intel? Sis ? Via ?
What's the best chipset for a P4 in socket 478 ? Intel? Sis ? Via ?
Thanks for any informed opinions !
Alan said:Would concur with that also. I have an 875p chipset based computer
that as a general purpose server. The only time it goes down is for
kernal upgrades, to change a harddisk, or the power goes off. However,
the non-intel chipsets have improved.
Another thing nice about intel is there support site is great. I can
still find information about eight year old ppro motherboard. I
recently even upgrade the bios to the latest version amazing.
Later.
Alan
fleet said:It's hard to find mb's with 875 chipset now but 865 is just as good.
What's the best chipset for a P4 in socket 478 ? Intel? Sis ? Via ?
Thanks for any informed opinions !
-RS-
[email protected] said:Why bother? 478 is a goner. Investing in it now is almost like
throwing money out the window. It makes sense to build 478-based
system only if you are getting the components free (or next to that).
In case you get them free, usually you don't have a choice of chipset
;-)
Only if you already have the CPU and it is relatively decent (2.4+) it
might make sense to buy a board for it. In this case Intel is
technically the best, but you better go with the cheapest one you can
get, and that one will probably be not Intel. You'll lose a few
points of performance, but the times when 478 was at or near the top
of performance charts are long gone anyway - 2003, to be exact.
Bob said:Asus P4C800E-Deluxe boards are fairly common on Ebay, mostly used, and they
have the 875p. I've assembled about six systems in the past six months with
this mobo and P4 Northwood CPU's, and they are all stable. I'm not wild
about the AMI bios, however, especially early versions that get the drive
order mixed up when using IDE drives in mobile racks.
The only difference I know of between the 865 and 875 chipsets is ICH5 vs.
ICH5R. On the latter, you have RAID0 and 1 options. If you won't be doing
RAID, the 865 should be just as good, although many 865 boards have on-board
RAID controllers, like Promise or Silicon Image.
I have a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP (875 chipset), and although very scarce and still
expensive, is a very stable platform. It has three on-chip and on-board
RAID controllers.
For what it's worth, I read somewhere that the difference between 865 and
875
is that the 875 has something Intel calls PAT = 'Performance Acceleration
Technology". PAT is present in the 865, but disabled. Intel intended to
differentiate the chips for different price segments of the market.
However,
to Intel's dismay, some motherboard manufacturers found ways of using
undocumented features to enable the PAT on the 865. But it may require a
specific BIOS upgrade.
Would be interesting to see some benchmarks that compare say the Prescott
and the new dual-core stuff ... and the new AMD stuff.
Bob said:Asus P4C800E-Deluxe boards are fairly common on Ebay, mostly used,
and they have the 875p. I've assembled about six systems in the past
six months with this mobo and P4 Northwood CPU's, and they are all
stable. I'm not wild about the AMI bios, however, especially early
versions that get the drive order mixed up when using IDE drives in
mobile racks.
The only difference I know of between the 865 and 875 chipsets is
ICH5 vs. ICH5R. On the latter, you have RAID0 and 1 options. If you
won't be doing RAID, the 865 should be just as good, although many
865 boards have on-board RAID controllers, like Promise or Silicon
Image.
RS said:The Asus P4P800 SE does seem to be a nice motherboard from what I
have read so far ...
-RS-
RS said:By no means free ... and from looking on eBay and generally on Google
-- not extremely cheap !! :-(
But I have the Prescott 2.8E already ... which I would like to make
use of. The questions is:
**connect it to what motherboard?**
Instead of something like the relatively deluxe full-size Asus P4P800
SE with its Intel chipset and Gb LAN, there is, for example, the
somewhat newer, micro-sized Asus P4V8X-MX with its VIA chipset.
It looks like, in my market (Canada), the P4P800 SE is about $30 more
than the P4V8X-MX.
Which makes more sense to get ... assuming I want to use my Prescott
2.8E ?
Thanks,
-RS-
Alan said:True. Another difference and some folks think it is minor and some
folks think it is not. 875 chipset support ECC memory and the 865 does
not support ECC memory.
RS said:By no means free ... and from looking on eBay and generally on Google -- not
extremely cheap !! :-(
But I have the Prescott 2.8E already ... which I would like to make use of.
The questions is:
**connect it to what motherboard?**
Instead of something like the relatively deluxe full-size Asus P4P800 SE
with its Intel chipset and Gb LAN, there is, for example, the somewhat
newer, micro-sized Asus P4V8X-MX with its VIA chipset.
It looks like, in my market (Canada), the P4P800 SE is about $30 more than
the P4V8X-MX.
Which makes more sense to get ... assuming I want to use my Prescott 2.8E ?
Thanks,
-RS-