Best browser?

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Jannik Lindquist

Hi,

The following is a (long and ugly) link to one of the best browsers I have
ever seen. It is a tabbed and IE-based. It is produced in Japan and when
the page has finally loaded, you'll see a machine-translation into (some
sort of) English of the original Japanese page.Under the heading "Download"
you'll find a link to the English version of the browser.

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/body?wb_url=http://www20.pos.to/%
7Esleipnir%2Fsoftware%2Fsleipnir%2Findex.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2
 
Hi,

The following is a (long and ugly) link to one of the best browsers I have
ever seen. It is a tabbed and IE-based. It is produced in Japan and when
the page has finally loaded, you'll see a machine-translation into (some
sort of) English of the original Japanese page.Under the heading "Download"
you'll find a link to the English version of the browser.

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/body?wb_url=http://www20.pos.to/%
7Esleipnir%2Fsoftware%2Fsleipnir%2Findex.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2
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Your URL wrapped was therefore broken. Try www.tinyurl.com

Below is the tinyURL link for your reference above:

http://tinyurl.com/qda6

later-
s a m
 
Apparently it doesn't work with favorites, but imports them and converts to
its own format. Other than that, I see no difference from MyIE2, Avant and
such. MyIE2 is still the best in my opinion.
 
Your URL wrapped was therefore broken. Try www.tinyurl.com
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<URL:http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/body?wb_url=http://www20
..pos.to%2F%7Esleipnir%2Fsoftware%2Fsleipnir%2Findex.html&wb_lp=JAEN&w
b_dis=2>

It's ok now. If you don't think so, then your newsreader is broken.
Tinyurl, and all similar services, are an abomination. Give me the
*real* URL, goddamit. Don't hide it behind some stupid service. By
the way, the real URL here is actually
<URL:http://www20.pos.to/~sleipnir/software/sleipnir/>. The URL
given by the OP is one run through a translator, and thus overly
complicated.

Tone
 
Your URL wrapped was therefore broken. Try www.tinyurl.com
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Well, don't make it worse by adding a ">" in the middle of it, some of
us actually have newsreaders that work.

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/b...tware/sleipnir/index.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2

displays in a single line for me. (Free Agent would do the same.)
Below is the tinyURL link for your reference above:

http://tinyurl.com/qda6
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Nice, until they go out of business, as many Internet businesses tend
to do even faster than their earthbound equivalents.
 
Apparently it doesn't work with favorites, but imports them and converts to
its own format. Other than that, I see no difference from MyIE2, Avant and
such. MyIE2 is still the best in my opinion.
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Then I suspect that you didn't notice:

- completely configurable shorcuts, mouse-gestures, mouse-"operations"
(combinations of mouse-clicks), menus, toolbars and buttons.

- *Much* better tab-control

- Much better security settings

- "Window List" side bar (showing the relation of open pages - and, thus,
*not* the same as Opera's Window List side bar which merely shows a list of
open pages.

- Script-support

- ...and have a look at Help | Keyboard Shortcuts! Handy, eh?


I guess the only real shortcoming of Sleipnir is that it does not support
the various add-ons for IE - but, to a large extend, Sleipnir compensates
for this by it's native features. For instance: highlighted search-terms,
search on selecte string etc.

Furthermore, I think that Sleipnir has a much more "clean" and friendly
interface than MyIE2.
 
The following is a (long and ugly) link to one of the best browsers I
have ever seen. It is a tabbed and IE-based.
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IE based browsers try to incorporate the superior usability of browsers
like Mozilla and Firebird, but carry one ugly IE problem along with them -
IE's lousy security.

Why try and morph IE when you could use the alternate browsers and escape
the security issues?
 
Hi donutbandit,
IE based browsers try to incorporate the superior usability of browsers
like Mozilla and Firebird, but carry one ugly IE problem along with them -
IE's lousy security.

Why try and morph IE when you could use the alternate browsers and escape
the security issues?
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Sleipnir does not "try to incorporate the superior usability of browsers
like Mozilla and Firebird" - it has a much higher degree of usability!
The flavours of Mozilla are very nice - but they all show the marks of
too many hands.

Sleipnir has the best security of any IE-based browser. Together with a
decent firewall, a decent AV-program, a decent ad-washer program (and
careful tuning of IE) that's enough for me.
 
["Tone Marie Berg"; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:44:50 GMT]
Give me the *real* URL, goddamit. Don't hide it behind some stupid
service.
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Interesting. While it is obvious that, in general, the original URL is
preferred, things can indeed get tricky with long ones. If I may, why the
dislike of TinyURL-like services?
 
On 11 Oct 2003, J44xm wrote
["Tone Marie Berg"; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:44:50 GMT]
Give me the *real* URL, goddamit. Don't hide it behind some
stupid service.
Click to expand...

Interesting. While it is obvious that, in general, the original
URL is preferred, things can indeed get tricky with long ones. If
I may, why the dislike of TinyURL-like services?
Click to expand...

The dislike comes from their cryptic nature. With TinURL-type
services, you've got no hope of deciphering what you're about to click
on to -- it could be a nasty/cruddy page hiding behind a friendly
recommendation and a cryptic URL.
 
On 11 Oct 2003, J44xm wrote
["Tone Marie Berg"; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:44:50 GMT]
Give me the *real* URL, goddamit. Don't hide it behind some
stupid service.
Click to expand...

Interesting. While it is obvious that, in general, the original
URL is preferred, things can indeed get tricky with long ones. If
I may, why the dislike of TinyURL-like services?
Click to expand...

The dislike comes from their cryptic nature. With TinURL-type
services, you've got no hope of deciphering what you're about to
click on to -- it could be a nasty/cruddy page hiding behind a
friendly recommendation and a cryptic URL.
Click to expand...
Which is why I *only* click on snipped url's from trusted sources...and
there are probably 4 or 5 of those here for me.

--
Tiger

"Zero is where the fun starts
There is too much counting everywhere else."
- Hafiz
 
["Tone Marie Berg"; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:44:50 GMT]
Give me the *real* URL, goddamit. Don't hide it behind some stupid
service.
Click to expand...

Interesting. While it is obvious that, in general, the original URL is
preferred, things can indeed get tricky with long ones. If I may, why the
dislike of TinyURL-like services?
Click to expand...

Because they are *services* and as such there's no telling how long
they'll be around. The original URL can be traced if need be, but
"tinyURL" is too generic and can't be used in such a manner.
 
["Tiger"; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:09:17 GMT]
Which is why I *only* click on snipped url's from trusted sources...and
there are probably 4 or 5 of those here for me.
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I agree with you both about the cryptic nature of shortened URLs: it is
indeed annoying not to know where you're headed (not that anything bad
happens if you click a bum link). But I'll go ahead and click it if the
poster is thoughtful enough to at least tell the group where the URL leads
them (e.g., "You can download it from Download.com at ...," or something
like that). Unfortunately, Xnews doesn't handle multi-line URLs very well,
so I like TinyURLs. They certainly are less wieldly.
 
[""; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:21:03 GMT]
Because they are *services* and as such there's no telling how long
they'll be around. The original URL can be traced if need be, but
"tinyURL" is too generic and can't be used in such a manner.
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Good point!
 
Jannik Lindquist said:
Hi,

The following is a (long and ugly) link to one of the best browsers I have
ever seen. It is a tabbed and IE-based. It is produced in Japan and when
the page has finally loaded, you'll see a machine-translation into (some
sort of) English of the original Japanese page.Under the heading "Download"
you'll find a link to the English version of the browser.

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/body?wb_url=http://www20.pos.to/%
7Esleipnir%2Fsoftware%2Fsleipnir%2Findex.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2
Click to expand...

The direct link for Sleipnir, as given in the program's readme file, is:
http://www20.pos.to/~sleipnir/

===

Frank Bohan
¶ Many are cold, but few are frozen.
 
Hi Frank,
The direct link for Sleipnir, as given in the program's readme file, is:
http://www20.pos.to/~sleipnir/
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1. That is *not* the direct link to the browser - it is a link to the
authors mainsite listing his various projects.

2. The link to Sleipnir that is present on the site you are refering to
leads to the original *Japanese* Sleipnir-site. In order to save the
good users of this list some trouble, I gave a link to an English
version of the Sleipnir-site.
 
Harvey Van Sickle said:
The dislike comes from their cryptic nature. With TinURL-type
services, you've got no hope of deciphering what you're about to click
on to -- it could be a nasty/cruddy page hiding behind a friendly
recommendation and a cryptic URL.
Click to expand...

www.snipurl.com and www.notlong.com let you put a userfriendly
identifier beind a link, so you have an idea of what you are being
linked to.

They are a God-send for Usenet where so many urls are too long for the
width restrictions, e.g. Google Groups.
 
www.snipurl.com and www.notlong.com let you put a userfriendly
identifier beind a link, so you have an idea of what you are being
linked to.
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Of course, the custom identifier for snipurl could be a trap, too -- I
could send you to a bukake site with a snipurl ending in fuzzypuppies.

But there some of the shortlink sites park you on an intermediary page
for a few seconds, that gives you the actual URL you're going to be sent to,
so you can bail if your pastor is looking over your shoulder.
They are a God-send for Usenet where so many urls are too long for the
width restrictions, e.g. Google Groups.
Click to expand...

It's also argued that if they disappear, then all of those links on
Usenet will be meaningless. The same can be said for "real" URLs -- the
actual sites aren't exactly guaranteed to exist next year, either.

On the whole, I believe them to be a worthwhile service. As one might
see from my sig.

A feature list of several of these sites:

http://notlong.com/links/
 
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