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I know that Visual Studio 2005 has problems with Vista and Microsoft put out
a Service Patch for it, and for the most part, VS2005 works on Vista but
there are a bunch of issues. Since VB6 isn't their "hot baby" any more, I
would be very careful to put your eggs all in one basket. Is there some
compelling reason to jump to Vista right now? I would wait until they have
Vista more stable, maybe a few patches come out and then see what happens.

Just my $0.02
 
Zim Babwe said:
I know that Visual Studio 2005 has problems with Vista and Microsoft put
out a Service Patch for it, and for the most part, VS2005 works on Vista
but there are a bunch of issues. Since VB6 isn't their "hot baby" any
more, I would be very careful to put your eggs all in one basket. Is there
some compelling reason to jump to Vista right now? I would wait until they
have Vista more stable, maybe a few patches come out and then see what
happens.

Just my $0.02
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I installed VB6 from VS05 onto my Vista laptop. Make sure you run the
install as administrator. The other issue you will have is that some ocx
files are not included in Vista. I believe the list is:

msmask32.ocx
MSCOMCTL.OCX
mscomct2.ocx
comdlg32.ocx
comctl32.ocx
RICHTX32.OCX

Having said, that, I have kept my main development machine on XP <g>

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I know that Visual Studio 2005 has problems with Vista and Microsoft put out
a Service Patch for it, and for the most part, VS2005 works on Vista but
there are a bunch of issues. Since VB6 isn't their "hot baby" any more, I
would be very careful to put your eggs all in one basket. Is there some
compelling reason to jump to Vista right now? I would wait until they have
Vista more stable, maybe a few patches come out and then see what happens.
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I can't think of any compelling reason to switch to Vista...ever
except until Microsoft *forces* me to by releasing a new version of
visual studio that only works under Vista...like they did with VS2003
and XP. And even then I will fight it until the last moment....

I don't see a single thing that Vista has that makes it better than
XP. I just see a lot of useless and unecessary and annoying things
that I can do without...and I personally find the attempts to force
users to switch to vista to be the most ridiculous thing ever (such as
DX10 being Vista only).

I was already very annoyed when MS decided to ditch MDX2.0, now I am
reasonably pissed off enough to ditch DirectX support from my
applications and switch to OpenGL.

I could go on and on and on....

I used to be a major microsoft supporter but lately...I feel I am
being kicked squarely in the nuts by them almost on a daily basis and
I for one am getting tired of it...

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Stephan
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kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara
 
I tell everyone who ask me my opinion about vista, is that I like it, it is
great, and very stable. If you buy a new PC, definatly get it on there, but
I recommend that if you have XP on your current machine and are thinking
about upgrading, I personally would stick with XP. XP is a fine OS and there
is no reason to abandon it!
 
Bryan,

As you stated, XP is fine but XP is not Vista.

If a person desires enhancing XP for the sole purpose for having the most
secure state-of-the-art OS as Vista, rapidly that person will begin using
Vista, now, not later.
 
Stephan,

More than compelling reasons to jump to Vista right now !!!

Do you have personal knowledge of *any* OS within the market place (other
than Microsoft) that offers an application as Vista's BitLocker?

Additionally, the newly developed hash algorithms implemented within
BitLocker and EFS is a cipher never before known and/or experienced by the
computing industry.

Question, for your computing needs, how important is Security for SQLs and
client machines?

Also, OpenGL does not come near the ecology as DirectX.
 
Stephan,

More than compelling reasons to jump to Vista right now !!!

Do you have personal knowledge of *any* OS within the market place (other
than Microsoft) that offers an application as Vista's BitLocker?
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Nope and I don't care about it...
Additionally, the newly developed hash algorithms implemented within
BitLocker and EFS is a cipher never before known and/or experienced by the
computing industry.
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And why should this concern me?
Question, for your computing needs, how important is Security for SQLs and
client machines?
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Seeing how I'd never in my life have a client directly connect to a
SQL Server unless its within the local area network only...I am not
all that concerned with Client->Server security.

Anything I do that requires a client accessing a remote SQL server
uses my own server software and communications protocol anyway with
the SQL Database being on a different computer than the server
software and only accessible from the local area network...
Also, OpenGL does not come near the ecology as DirectX.
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Seeing how I currently use DirectX primarily for accelrated 2D Drawing
of thousands of objects since GDI and GDI+ move at the speed of a
turtle with a boat anchor attached...OGL actually would fit my needs
just fine. =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara
 
Jonathan Schwartz 2 said:
Stephan,

More than compelling reasons to jump to Vista right now !!!

Do you have personal knowledge of *any* OS within the market place (other
than Microsoft) that offers an application as Vista's BitLocker?
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Do you actually trust the company who invented Ctrl-Alt-Delete to encrypt
your entire drive so that you cannot get to your valuable business data if
some bug shows up in your drive or BitLocker?

While the concept of BitLocker is a good idea for laptops used on the road,
you'd better make sure that you back up your BitLocker'd drive at every
opportunity to unencrypted but physically secured media.
Additionally, the newly developed hash algorithms implemented within
BitLocker and EFS is a cipher never before known and/or experienced by the
computing industry.
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I haven't looked into the details of BitLocker's encryption scheme nor of
Vista's EFS encryption scheme but having a never-before-known-or-experienced
encryption scheme is not a plus at all. I assume you're pulling this out of
your hat and not from inside knowledge.

Hiding the details of an encryption does not make it secure at all. Anyone
who develops a good encryption scheme and is confident in that encryption
scheme would gladly publish the details. First, there is huge academic
value and interest in that. The rewards of developing and publishing such a
scheme much more than outweigh the cost of sharing it. And any good
encryption will withstand the scrutiny of other experts in the field. Any
knowledgable user that requires a good encryption scheme would not use one
that had not passed such scrutiny by other experts.

Any cipher that can be cracked simply by, or more easily by, knowing the
implementation details is not secure at all. While I may not personally be
up to the task, there are certainly hundreds or thousands of scientists and
experts who could easily reverse engineer any implementation and get those
details anyway.

I used EFS on my home network, and I protected my certificates by exporting
them to a diskette and tucking it away safely in my safe. I lost quite a
few important files because they weren't backed up to unencrypted media.
After a crash and reload of the OS, I confidently extracted my stored
certificates to recover from my backups and found that my diskette could not
be read!

BitLocker and EFS are not toys for the weak-of-heart. These are serious
tools for those who are willing to put forth serious effort in managing the
security of files and document that warrant those measures.


Dale
 
Dale,

Hidden, No.

Fully discussed, yes.
implementation details is not secure at all. While I may not personally be
up to the task, there are certainly hundreds or thousands of scientists and
experts who could easily reverse engineer any implementation and get those
details anyway." <<

Also, a black box does not come close for decrypting Microsoft's newly
developed hash, previously, too many tried, and then failed.

Should you desire knowing the technical details, in respect to BitLocker,
those details are waiting for you. And, you just might realize your "Safe" is
not needed or necessary, especially, don't think that Safe is protected by
DEP. If so, fully explains why previously you encountered unnecessary
conflict issues.
tools for those who are willing to put forth serious effort in managing the
security of files and document that warrant those measures." <<

When activated, BitLocker is a seamless process so simplified children use
the benefits provided by BitLocker; just set back and allow BitLocker
self-perform!
 
I've got some OpenGL screensavers that make DirectX ones look positively
neanderthal in comparison. ;-)
 
Jonathan Schwartz 2 said:
Dale,

Hidden, No.

Fully discussed, yes.

implementation details is not secure at all. While I may not personally
be
up to the task, there are certainly hundreds or thousands of scientists
and
experts who could easily reverse engineer any implementation and get those
details anyway." <<

Also, a black box does not come close for decrypting Microsoft's newly
developed hash, previously, too many tried, and then failed.

Should you desire knowing the technical details, in respect to BitLocker,
those details are waiting for you. And, you just might realize your "Safe"
is
not needed or necessary, especially, don't think that Safe is protected by
DEP. If so, fully explains why previously you encountered unnecessary
conflict issues.

tools for those who are willing to put forth serious effort in managing
the
security of files and document that warrant those measures." <<

When activated, BitLocker is a seamless process so simplified children use
the benefits provided by BitLocker; just set back and allow BitLocker
self-perform!
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Until something goes wrong with the key or some corruption on the hard drive
and you can't get into your hard drive for anything at all. At least with
an unencrypted drive, if I lose one file, I don't lose every file.

Like I said, it has its purposes but not for most users.
 
Until something goes wrong with the key or some corruption on the hard drive
and you can't get into your hard drive for anything at all. At least with
an unencrypted drive, if I lose one file, I don't lose every file.

Like I said, it has its purposes but not for most users.
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He is probably the kind of guy who has McAfee, Norton, and 10 other
security programs running on the same machine simultaneously...

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara
 
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