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I really don't know where this would be strictly on topic.

Are todays printer manufacturers as bad as ever at forcing you to throw
away half full ink cartidges?


JimL
 
I really don't know where this would be strictly on topic.

Are todays printer manufacturers as bad as ever at forcing you to throw
away half full ink cartidges?

JimL

I hear Epson is still bad for that. I've personally totally given up
on the inkjet printer rip-off. You may want to take a look at this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3299623&CatId=2712

I've been using these for more than a year now at home and have yet to
buy a replacement cartridge. Also, it has separate colour cartridges
for black, red, cyan and yellow, so you only replace the one that is
used, unlike inkjets where, if one colour fails, you throw out the
entire cartridge. With the model I indicated, I attach it to one
computer and network it for the other computers to access and use. Of
course this only works if the computer it is attached to is turned on.
But, if you want to set up printer sharing via a router with a print
server or a simple print server, there is a similar model that has
this capability for a few dollars more.
 
I really don't know where this would be strictly on topic.

Are todays printer manufacturers as bad as ever at forcing you to throw
away half full ink cartidges?


JimL



Well I do a lot of photo printing and the Epson printers seem to be OK
in that you can keep right on printing.
When the ink gets too low to complete an image...
it refuses to print...thus at least saving a piece of paper.
 
My Epson Stylus Photo R260 uses six individual cartridges which seems to
help. My last Espon Stylus Photo had a black and a color cartridge so
I'm sure some color ink was wasted.

Funny thing about those six individual cartridges. I can buy the
standard cartridge or go to Espon's web page and buy the "high capacity"
cartridges for about 40% to 50% more $ and get about 50% more capacity
than the standard cartridges (Epson says). The "high capacity" isn't any
bigger a cartridge so it appears the standard cartridge isn't filled up
all the way?

What the heck, the six cartridges cost more than the printer. But it
makes a great photo print!

Hi folks,

You should all read this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132969/article.html

It reinforces the OP's question.
 
I really don't know where this would be strictly on topic.

Are todays printer manufacturers as bad as ever at forcing you to throw
away half full ink cartidges?


JimL

My Epson Stylus Photo R260 uses six individual cartridges which seems to
help. My last Espon Stylus Photo had a black and a color cartridge so
I'm sure some color ink was wasted.

Funny thing about those six individual cartridges. I can buy the
standard cartridge or go to Espon's web page and buy the "high capacity"
cartridges for about 40% to 50% more $ and get about 50% more capacity
than the standard cartridges (Epson says). The "high capacity" isn't any
bigger a cartridge so it appears the standard cartridge isn't filled up
all the way?

What the heck, the six cartridges cost more than the printer. But it
makes a great photo print!
 
Claymore said:
Hi folks,

You should all read this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132969/article.html

It reinforces the OP's question.

From the article: By contrast, models made by Epson and one HP inkjet,
were shown to have efficiency levels of around 80 percent.

Much like philo who replied to this thread, I don't replace the
cartridge until the printer refuses to print. The printer can blink for
weeks but I keep printing with no problems. AT some point it will force
me to replace the cartridge and then I do.
 
Claymore <[email protected]> said:


Hi folks,
You should all read this:

It reinforces the OP's question.

Perhaps I might tell what prompted my post. I've been using an HP Deskjet
930C for some time. For about a year I've been able to refill cartridges
for it using semi-bulk ink. I've followed a procedure that is supposed to
reset something in the older printers - and it has been working until
recently. It may be that the foil contacts just wore out, being intended
as junk in the first place.

Anyway I've been wondering about getting a new printer, but there isn't
much point if they are as bad with ink as they have been in the past.

JimL
 
Claymore <[email protected]> said:






Perhaps I might tell what prompted my post. I've been using an HP Deskjet
930C for some time. For about a year I've been able to refill cartridges
for it using semi-bulk ink. I've followed a procedure that is supposed to
reset something in the older printers - and it has been working until
recently. It may be that the foil contacts just wore out, being intended
as junk in the first place.

Anyway I've been wondering about getting a new printer, but there isn't
much point if they are as bad with ink as they have been in the past.

JimL

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Sorry about your trouble.
I'm pretty sure you can't refill the same cartridge indefinitely. I
gave up on refilling cartridges years ago, even the store-bought
refurbished ones. Never had any lasting success. And, as I said, I no
longer support the inkjet printer scam. If you can possibly afford it,
go with laser. The initial outlay might be daunting, but you'll save
in the end. I did a cost study on this at my place of work.

Regards
 
Claymore <[email protected]> said:






Perhaps I might tell what prompted my post. I've been using an HP Deskjet
930C for some time. For about a year I've been able to refill cartridges
for it using semi-bulk ink. I've followed a procedure that is supposed to
reset something in the older printers - and it has been working until
recently. It may be that the foil contacts just wore out, being intended
as junk in the first place.

Anyway I've been wondering about getting a new printer, but there isn't
much point if they are as bad with ink as they have been in the past.

JimL

If you're happy with your current printer, why not buy a new cartridge
and continue to refill it until you wear out the contacts again? Since
you refer to yourself as an old fart on SS, what have you bought lately
that wasn't intended to wear out quickly?

Did you look at the article Claymore referenced? It said, models made by
Epson and one HP inkjet, were shown to have efficiency levels of around
80 percent. You may already have one of the more efficient?

I like the Epson printers that use five colors, they seem to print a
better photo because they use five colors instead of three.
 
If you are worried about the cost of the ink I understand there is a new
Kodak color inkjet printer on the market where the ink is like $5.00 for
Black and $12.00 for colour..........and it has almost double the print
capacity.
I am sure a little research would turn it up on google
peter
 
JD said:
If you're happy with your current printer, why not buy a new cartridge
and continue to refill it until you wear out the contacts again?

Already on the way. I'll be a sad ombre if the problem is in the printer
and not the carts.
you refer to yourself as an old fart on SS, what have you bought lately
that wasn't intended to wear out quickly?

You're so right. I grew up in a time when people actually fixed things
instead of throwing them away. Of course back then things were fixable -
screwed together instead of glued together, etc. The American auto
industry just about doomed itself putting planned obsolescence into cars,
triggering the move to foreign cars. But apparently the practice still
works on smaller ticket items. Everything's disposable now.
Did you look at the article Claymore referenced? It said, models made by
Epson and one HP inkjet, were shown to have efficiency levels of around
80 percent. You may already have one of the more efficient

I didn't find Epson inkjets much to my liking. I had two - one a warranty
replacement just as junky as the first. They both dried out cartridges
almost overnight. I've never had that problem with HP DeskJet. Actually
I didn't find them to be nearly as good on ink as the article suggested
either. I had a couple Canon Bubblejets I liked, but newer models didn't
cut it for me.

One thing about the "better" HP reference. I've found the 930C carts to
last as long as any or longer. My original question was about the
industry in general.

JimL
 
Already on the way. I'll be a sad ombre if the problem is in the printer
and not the carts.


You're so right. I grew up in a time when people actually fixed things
instead of throwing them away. Of course back then things were fixable -
screwed together instead of glued together, etc. The American auto
industry just about doomed itself putting planned obsolescence into cars,
triggering the move to foreign cars. But apparently the practice still
works on smaller ticket items. Everything's disposable now.


I didn't find Epson inkjets much to my liking. I had two - one a warranty
replacement just as junky as the first. They both dried out cartridges
almost overnight. I've never had that problem with HP DeskJet. Actually
I didn't find them to be nearly as good on ink as the article suggested
either. I had a couple Canon Bubblejets I liked, but newer models didn't
cut it for me.

One thing about the "better" HP reference. I've found the 930C carts to
last as long as any or longer. My original question was about the
industry in general.

JimL

"I didn't find Epson inkjets much to my liking. I had two - one a
warranty
replacement just as junky as the first."

Of course, you realize that the study was commissioned by Epson.
Not sayin' - just sayin'.
 
Already on the way. I'll be a sad ombre if the problem is in the printer
and not the carts.

I hope the solution is that simple. One thing we forgot to discuss was
the cost of the cartridge and the age of the printer. If the printer is
really old then it might be time to replace the printer. Do post back if
the new cartridge fixed the problem, OK?
You're so right. I grew up in a time when people actually fixed things
instead of throwing them away. Of course back then things were fixable -
screwed together instead of glued together, etc. The American auto
industry just about doomed itself putting planned obsolescence into cars,
triggering the move to foreign cars. But apparently the practice still
works on smaller ticket items. Everything's disposable now.

Glued not screwed together? I took apart one of my older Epson printers
and it wasn't even glued together, it was just snapped together. Not
that easy to snap back together but I did and it still didn't work.
I didn't find Epson inkjets much to my liking. I had two - one a warranty
replacement just as junky as the first. They both dried out cartridges
almost overnight. I've never had that problem with HP DeskJet. Actually
I didn't find them to be nearly as good on ink as the article suggested
either. I had a couple Canon Bubblejets I liked, but newer models didn't
cut it for me.

My older Epsons had a problem with the ink jets clogging. There was a
work around that would fix that but my latest Epson doesn't seem to have
that problem. Keep in mind I use the Photo version of Epson printers.
 
I hope the solution is that simple. One thing we forgot to discuss was
the cost of the cartridge and the age of the printer. If the printer is
really old then it might be time to replace the printer. Do post back if
the new cartridge fixed the problem, OK?

Well, well. The new cartridges didn't work on the old desktop with an old
OS (I had been running the printer through a network). Following a hunch
I hooked up the printer via USB dierctly to my ThinkPad with XP - it
worked.

On another hunch I tried the old refilled carts on the XP hookup - no joy.
I've been messing around with computers since Tandy's Model 1 was a gleam
in someone's eye and still want to throw them out a 200 story window every
now and then.

JimL
 
Well, well. The new cartridges didn't work on the old desktop with an old
OS (I had been running the printer through a network). Following a hunch
I hooked up the printer via USB dierctly to my ThinkPad with XP - it
worked.

On another hunch I tried the old refilled carts on the XP hookup - no joy.
I've been messing around with computers since Tandy's Model 1 was a gleam
in someone's eye and still want to throw them out a 200 story window every
now and then.

JimL

OK. Sounds like you can start refilling the new one.
 
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