backup & restore

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Lampie

How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use Ghost for
my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help now
in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like a
belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change Backup
Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way back
in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very decent Help
that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base articles as
well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users non-enterprise who had XP
installed, almost all of them via OEM purchases or purchases off a truck in
an alley in some countries ever used the help which could be reached in XP
by typing helpctr.exe in the run box and in Vista by typing helppane.exe in
the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if it's
crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like run
commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT] Blog
Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH
 
Thanks for extensive reply. I do agree with the importance of the "Help"
function in Windows of course. Unfortunately I get the remark "Internet
Explorer cannot download/from help if I try to use the help . That is maybe
the reason why I could not find my way.

Chad Harris said:
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help now
in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like a
belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change Backup
Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way
back in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very
decent Help that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base
articles as well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users
non-enterprise who had XP installed, almost all of them via OEM purchases
or purchases off a truck in an alley in some countries ever used the help
which could be reached in XP by typing helpctr.exe in the run box and in
Vista by typing helppane.exe in the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if it's
crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like run
commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT]
Blog Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH


Lampie said:
How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use Ghost
for my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
The Vista Help and Support Center is also online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

Lampie said:
Thanks for extensive reply. I do agree with the importance of the "Help"
function in Windows of course. Unfortunately I get the remark "Internet
Explorer cannot download/from help if I try to use the help . That is
maybe the reason why I could not find my way.

Chad Harris said:
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help now
in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like a
belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change Backup
Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way
back in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very
decent Help that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base
articles as well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users
non-enterprise who had XP installed, almost all of them via OEM purchases
or purchases off a truck in an alley in some countries ever used the help
which could be reached in XP by typing helpctr.exe in the run box and in
Vista by typing helppane.exe in the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if
it's crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like run
commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well
here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT]
Blog Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH


Lampie said:
How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use Ghost
for my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
My pleasure. This is a common Vista bug that is easily fixed. It's one of
many we bugged and MSFT Vista Redmond teams ignored so now we have to fix
it. I used to preface "Please fix so we won't have to after RTM but the
Vista team members at Redmond had thousands of TIN EARS. They don't listen
well despite many sycophantic (keep making me an MVP and Inviting me to the
April Summit and giving me all that Redmond good ole time religion baseball
info--I wanna be in the fold mentality.

They fixed a lot of things and they refused to fix a lot of things we worked
hard to tell them to fix period. Screenshots, reporting ala the movies on
how to report bugs, they did not care. And it shows.

Here's a couple of several fixes for Help and Support:

Fix One:

If you have been getting the dreaded "Internet Explorer cannot download /
from help" error message when attempting to open Help and Support in Windows
Vista, try this fix. It re-associates the .xml file type with its default
settings. Once you've merged this into the registry, re-launch Help and
Support and it should work.

You can download the fix at
http://www.chris123nt.com/guides/RTM_Fixes/Fix_Help_and_Support
FIX TWO:

Restore Help and Support Service:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/helpnsupport.reg

You can access help in Vista by typing helppane.exe in run.

Good luck,

CH



Lampie said:
Thanks for extensive reply. I do agree with the importance of the "Help"
function in Windows of course. Unfortunately I get the remark "Internet
Explorer cannot download/from help if I try to use the help . That is
maybe the reason why I could not find my way.

Chad Harris said:
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help now
in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like a
belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change Backup
Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way
back in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very
decent Help that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base
articles as well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users
non-enterprise who had XP installed, almost all of them via OEM purchases
or purchases off a truck in an alley in some countries ever used the help
which could be reached in XP by typing helpctr.exe in the run box and in
Vista by typing helppane.exe in the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if
it's crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like run
commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well
here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT]
Blog Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH


Lampie said:
How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use Ghost
for my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
Yessir one of my many links on my post here above as Mr. MSFT Cheerleader
par excellance. I so done luvs the site.

But they sure is laggin' behind in content on the site.

Here is one thing that I don't understand and I did beg them for emailing
the Vista help team several times during the beta months prior to RTM and
I'm going to do it before the day is out to ask why.

Remember how Help in XP (if you still have XP on a box Colin take a look)
when you searched a topic if you look on the left hand side of the pane in
XP Search there are blue hyperlinks and the one at the bottom is a link to
all the MSKBs on the topic. For reasons I don't understand that is left out
in Vista. I've been trying to test Vista help (helppane.exe in the run box
in Vista as opposed to helpctr.exe in XP) from the server and it looks
pretty good, but I believe if they could restore that link to the MSKBs
function it would be a big advantage.

Do you have any idea why they left it out in Vista.? I remember mentioning
it to the Help team on a chat and I don't think they answered my question on
that chat. So I emailed them and posted it in that TBT group and they still
didn't respond.

To be clear Colin, I'm talking about Help in XP which is probably not as
substantial as Help in Vista now being linked to the MSKBs on the left pane
at the bottom. I thought that was a nice addition and should have been
carried into Vista.

CH

Colin Barnhorst said:
The Vista Help and Support Center is also online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

Lampie said:
Thanks for extensive reply. I do agree with the importance of the "Help"
function in Windows of course. Unfortunately I get the remark "Internet
Explorer cannot download/from help if I try to use the help . That is
maybe the reason why I could not find my way.

Chad Harris said:
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help
now in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like
a belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change
Backup Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way
back in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very
decent Help that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base
articles as well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users
non-enterprise who had XP installed, almost all of them via OEM
purchases or purchases off a truck in an alley in some countries ever
used the help which could be reached in XP by typing helpctr.exe in the
run box and in Vista by typing helppane.exe in the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if
it's crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like
run commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well
here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT]
Blog Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH


How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use
Ghost for my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
Many thanks, your fix was of great help!!!

Chad Harris said:
My pleasure. This is a common Vista bug that is easily fixed. It's one
of many we bugged and MSFT Vista Redmond teams ignored so now we have to
fix it. I used to preface "Please fix so we won't have to after RTM but
the Vista team members at Redmond had thousands of TIN EARS. They don't
listen well despite many sycophantic (keep making me an MVP and Inviting
me to the April Summit and giving me all that Redmond good ole time
religion baseball info--I wanna be in the fold mentality.

They fixed a lot of things and they refused to fix a lot of things we
worked hard to tell them to fix period. Screenshots, reporting ala the
movies on how to report bugs, they did not care. And it shows.

Here's a couple of several fixes for Help and Support:

Fix One:

If you have been getting the dreaded "Internet Explorer cannot download /
from help" error message when attempting to open Help and Support in
Windows Vista, try this fix. It re-associates the .xml file type with its
default settings. Once you've merged this into the registry, re-launch
Help and Support and it should work.

You can download the fix at
http://www.chris123nt.com/guides/RTM_Fixes/Fix_Help_and_Support
FIX TWO:

Restore Help and Support Service:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/helpnsupport.reg

You can access help in Vista by typing helppane.exe in run.

Good luck,

CH



Lampie said:
Thanks for extensive reply. I do agree with the importance of the "Help"
function in Windows of course. Unfortunately I get the remark "Internet
Explorer cannot download/from help if I try to use the help . That is
maybe the reason why I could not find my way.

Chad Harris said:
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help
now in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like
a belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change
Backup Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way
back in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very
decent Help that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base
articles as well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users
non-enterprise who had XP installed, almost all of them via OEM
purchases or purchases off a truck in an alley in some countries ever
used the help which could be reached in XP by typing helpctr.exe in the
run box and in Vista by typing helppane.exe in the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if
it's crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like
run commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well
here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT]
Blog Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH


How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use
Ghost for my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
Thanks for the info on disabling backup but is there a facility in Vista
where you can select the files you want to backup rtaher than the whole
caboodle you are firced into taking. XP had this option outside of the wizrd
function, is there somrething similar in Vista

Chad Harris said:
I am not preaching, but you have a very robust to use the quaint Jane
Austenesque IT term, which on the street means "fairly competent" Help now
in Vista. If you go to the cute little round start button shaped like a
belly button which makes it easy for me to remember and find and type
"backup" up will pop

BACKUP STATUS AND CONFIGURATION

Click it and there you can click at the bottom of the box, "Change Backup
Settings" and turn it off if you like.

My point about Help is that during the reign of Win XP that old OS way back
in the day that the youngsters won't remember, there was a very decent Help
that unlike Vista was linked to the MSKBs or Knoledge Base articles as
well. Less than 1% of the 800, million PC users non-enterprise who had XP
installed, almost all of them via OEM purchases or purchases off a truck in
an alley in some countries ever used the help which could be reached in XP
by typing helpctr.exe in the run box and in Vista by typing helppane.exe in
the run box.

***If you type Backup into Help you'll get some good links in
information.*** Again Help should be on the Vista Start Menu, but if it's
crowded off then type help above the start button or if you like run
commands, type helppane.exe in the run box in Vista.

Vista Help is attached to a server, and MSFT has a Help Page as well here:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

If you type in backup there, you'll get a number of topics, among them

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9eb3d150-fe33-41a0-b7f6-233d7fe4460a1033.mspx

Also there are these backup topics obtained there:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/Search.aspx?qu=backup

Vista Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/backup.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/backuprecovery.mspx

For additional reference see the Backup Topics on Jill Zoeller's [MSFT] Blog
Here:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/tags/Backup/default.aspx

Good luck,

CH


Lampie said:
How can I disable backup & restore? It apparently makes backups all the
time, where I have a sperate backup program for all my data. I use Ghost
for my partition images (Ghost 8 with Bart's PE).
Please advise.
 
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