backup and restore files depending on Vista version

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I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.

The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise o
Ultimate.)

So my question is..
Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a marketing
plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program like
this?
 
L Cente said:
I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.

The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise
o
Ultimate.)

So my question is..
Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a
marketing
plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program
like
this?
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pr.../choose.mspx?wt_svl=10033VHa1&mg_id=10033VHb1
 
I can't believe this...so basically Vista Home Premium backup is useless if
something happens to your hdd????
Next question...will an outside vendor complete backup program be able to
restore the entire computer as it says it will or is there something in Vista
that will prevent it? Thx
 
L Cente said:
I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.

The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise o
Ultimate.)

So my question is..
Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a marketing
plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program like
this?
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Untrue.
In Vista Home Premium you can perform a scheduled backup of files. In Ultimate
and the Business editions you can perform a full PC image backup. You can
restore files backed up in the Home editions to a repaired/reinstalled Home
edition, but it is *not* an image backup, so programs and settings are not
backed up.
What you may have heard of is the Volume Shadow Copy allows users of Ultimate
and Business editions to recover previous versions of files - this is not a
backup, it is like an enhanced "System Restore" function on a file by file
basis. The news reports that I read indicated that the Home versions also made
the Volume Shadow Copies, but these copies were unable to be accessed unless you
upgrade to Ultimate or Business editions.
-steve
 
L Cente said:
As I understood in that link is what i was saying it was true.
In my opinion for the user is not useful to make a backup, and then to
restor and recover their data to update a new version. Why this option??
thanks
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Where on earth did you read that at the link I posted?
It couldn't be more clear.

Business & Ultimate are the only versions with a built in imaging program to
create an image of the hard disk.
Premium, Business, Enterprise & ultimate all include an application to
backup & restore files.
 
I am not sure who you were answering me or the previous poster. But in
reading your reply the Home Prem. Edit. only backs up files not Programs and
settings UNLESS you upgrade the version.
My question is will Home Prem. allow the restore of PROGRAM files that are
created by a 3rd party B/U program?
ty
 
L Cente said:
I'm writing a project about windows vista analysis, about the new feature,
backup and restore assistant i read something it is quite strange.

The Vista basic and home premium allows you to make backup, but after the
user is not allowed to restore, and the only way to restore will be
installing one of the rest version of Windows Vista ( Business, Enterprise
o
Ultimate.)

So my question is..
Is this true? and if it is true, Is this an error? or it is just a
marketing
plan... i can't give any explanation so why Microsoft decided to program
like
this?
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No it's not true because you're mixing apples and oranges. All versions of
Vista come with a backup program for user files, and of course those files
can be restored. It is not a system backup. Ultimate, Business and
Enterprise versions also come with Complete PC Backup. This is a drive /
partition imaging program. This can be used to backup the entire system and
restore it as a complete system.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/0625443e-f5c7-4bec-a5e3-3b7e00503c481033.mspx

To get that functionality in Vista Basic and Home Premium, 3rd party imaging
software is needed such as Acronis True Image Home, version 10.
 
Ontrackk99 said:
I am not sure who you were answering me or the previous poster. But in
reading your reply the Home Prem. Edit. only backs up files not Programs
and
settings UNLESS you upgrade the version.
My question is will Home Prem. allow the restore of PROGRAM files that are
created by a 3rd party B/U program?
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The files have to be restored by the program that created the backup. No OS
can by itself restore backup files. What is the program that created the
backup? Does that program install and run on Vista?
 
It runs on Vista (at least the b/u does) It is Easy Creator 9.0 from Roxio
and the backup is "Backup MY PC"
 
Ontrackk99 said:
It runs on Vista (at least the b/u does) It is Easy Creator 9.0 from Roxio
and the backup is "Backup MY PC"
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Ok then I'm confused. If you know it runs in Vista because you have run it
in Vista why the question? Is the question about restoring and you haven't
tried that?

If that's the case you have to test it under the same conditions you would
be using it. Any backup solution needs to be tested on your platform under
real conditions, no matter what the author or other folks say. Even the
most highly regarded program might not work on your system. Test it.
 
Ontrackk99 said:
I am not sure who you were answering me or the previous poster. But in
reading your reply the Home Prem. Edit. only backs up files not Programs and
settings UNLESS you upgrade the version.
My question is will Home Prem. allow the restore of PROGRAM files that are
created by a 3rd party B/U program?
ty
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Any 3rd party backup program will work independently of any features in Vista
for backup. The answer is yes. If you use a program that backs up all files on
your Vista Home Premium pc, Acronis True Image, for example, you will be able to
restore that backup by following the instructions for that software.
-steve
 
Acronis True Image Version 10 works when installed on Vista. Versions prior
to Version 10 work only when run outside Vista.

My testing shows Version 9 works fine for imaging and restoring Vista when
run via boot from a Acronis boot DVD or from XP in a dual boot arrangement.
Version 9 will not properly work when installed in Vista.

--
Leo

Dante: "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those
who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."
 
Business & Ultimate are the only versions with a built in imaging program
to create an image of the hard disk.
Premium, Business, Enterprise & ultimate all include an application to
backup & restore files.
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But the utility won't let you backup to a second harddrive installed in the
PC. This is nuts!!!!!

Richard.
 
But the utility won't let you backup to a second harddrive installed in
the PC. This is nuts!!!!!
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Yes it will. I have 3 physical hard drives with multiple partitions and ALL
but the main C drive are available as backup locations.

From Help and Support:

When you choose a location to save your backup to, the wizard searches your
computer and displays a list of all locations that you can use. If the
location that you want to use doesn't appear in the list, it could be due to
one of the following problems:
a.. The location is a tape drive. You can't save backups to tapes.

b.. The location is the disk that you are trying to back up. You can't
back up a disk to itself. For example, you can't back up the contents of
drive E to drive E.

c.. The location is a CD-ROM drive. You can't use a CD-ROM drive to make a
backup; you must use a CD burner, also known as a CD-R or CD-RW drive.

d.. The location is a USB flash drive. You can't save backups to a flash
drive.

e.. The location is not formatted as NTFS, FAT, or Universal Disk Format
(UDF) (also called Live File System). Backups can only be saved to disks
that are formatted using the NTFS, FAT, or UDF file systems. For more
information, see Comparing NTFS and FAT file systems.

f.. The location is either the system disk (the disk that Windows is
installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot disk (the disk that
Windows uses to start your computer-also called the startup disk).

g.. The location is a network share on a computer running Windows XP Home
Edition. You can't save backups to these shares because setting permissions
on network shares and authenticating over a network are not supported by
Windows XP Home Edition.
 
But the utility won't let you backup to a second harddrive installed in
the PC. This is nuts!!!!!
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Yes it does, with some restrictions, but then why would you want to except
as a redundant storage location, where a copy is also kept on external
media, with redundancy in external media as well.
 
You can
restore files backed up in the Home editions to a repaired/reinstalled Home
edition, but it is *not* an image backup, so programs and settings are not
backed up.
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i think you are wrong here. i have vista home premium, and my backup
DEFINATELY backed up ALL my program file directories. (even though it said it
would not back those up). i even checked the zip files. i knew something
was up because there was no way i had 6 dvd's worth of data used up on my new
computer. started looking in the zip files and every file on my whole
computer was there.

why did this happen? vista backup told me *specifically* that it would NOT
back up any program files directories. but it did anyways, wasting several
dvd+r disks. and wasting tons of my time.
 
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