AVG7 and Mailwasher

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Is there a compatibility issue? When Mailwasher has downloaded most of my
incoming mails it locks up and there is a pop-up saying "AutoPOP3 Connected
to pop.ntlworld.com".

I have to use Task Manager to close AVG to continue.

Any ideas

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Regards

John
 
John said:
Is there a compatibility issue? When Mailwasher has downloaded most of my
incoming mails it locks up and there is a pop-up saying "AutoPOP3
Connected to pop.ntlworld.com".

I have to use Task Manager to close AVG to continue.

Any ideas

Get rid of AVG7.... Well, that was my solution anyway...
 
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:09:12 GMT, [John] said :-
Is there a compatibility issue? When Mailwasher has downloaded most of my
incoming mails it locks up and there is a pop-up saying "AutoPOP3 Connected
to pop.ntlworld.com".

I have to use Task Manager to close AVG to continue.

Any ideas

Press Stop in Mailwasher, and after a couple of minutes, AVG will stop
doing that. You could always "disable plugin" from the E-mail scanner
section.
 
John said:
Is there a compatibility issue? When Mailwasher has downloaded most of my
incoming mails it locks up and there is a pop-up saying "AutoPOP3 Connected
to pop.ntlworld.com".

I have to use Task Manager to close AVG to continue.

Any ideas

I meant to reply to you the other day when I first saw this message.
Sorry for the delay.

It sounds like your server settings are wrong. I notice from the header
of your message you use OE6 as your mail client. Are you using the
Outlook plugin with AVG? If so, try switching to the personal email
scanner option and the personal test configuration instead.



Setup Outlook Express settings to the following:

(Tools menu > Accounts settings > mail tab > account > properties)

Server tab settings:
SMTP/POP3 servers (both) set to: 127.0.0.1

Advanced tab settings:
SMTP port set to: 5100
POP3 port set to: 5200



AVG settings:

right mouse click the email scanner plugin, select properties, select
personal email scanner, and Use the "personal test configuration".

Then select "properties" and then click the servers tab and
delete all the servers set up on it, and add these servers
types/settings instead:

Server type: POP3
Connection: Login type: FIXED HOST
(Enter the name of your ISP's POP3 server)
Set the local port# to 5200

Then go back and add another server:

Server type: SMTP
Connection: Login type: FIXED HOST
(Again, enter the name of your ISP's SMTP server)
Set the local port# to 5100

Note: some ISPs use the same name for both types of servers, while
others specify different names for each. You'll have to find out what
names your ISP uses for each.

Hope that helps.


-Rick
 
John said:
Is there a compatibility issue? When Mailwasher has downloaded most of my
incoming mails it locks up and there is a pop-up saying "AutoPOP3
Connected to pop.ntlworld.com".

I have to use Task Manager to close AVG to continue.

Any ideas

There is an article on the Grisoft forum about Mailwasher - I'll try and
convey what I can remember!!!

Basically the problems start when Mailwasher tries to bounce a message to a
server that doesn't exist - normally Mailwasher just ignores these errors as
that's what it's written for, but now with AVG7 in the loop AVG keeps trying
to send the message or bounces back to you an error message, one or the
other..

Grisoft advise to dump Mailwasher to solve the problem..........
 
Martin said:
Basically the problems start when Mailwasher tries to bounce a message to
a server that doesn't exist - normally Mailwasher just ignores these
errors as that's what it's written for, but now with AVG7 in the loop AVG
keeps trying to send the message or bounces back to you an error message,
one or the other..

Grisoft advise to dump Mailwasher to solve the problem..........
Don't bounce messages, just delete them then you won't have the problem.

Where does it say dump Mailwasher in Grisoft please.

Ray.
 
Ray.Milne said:
Don't bounce messages, just delete them then you won't have the problem.

But I don't need Mailwasher to do that - OE does that fine just using
filters....

Where does it say dump Mailwasher in Grisoft please.

Grisoft's free edition forum, and not so much 'dump' Mailwasher as to dump
the spam-bounce feature (which you have already done), but then I wonder why
on earth you would need to use Mailwasher at all????

Anyway, here's the main post from Grisoft's AVG Free Forum on Mailwasher,
there are others:

MailWasher users - read this, please!
Posted by: kodl - Grisoft Team (IP Logged)
Date: November 21, 2004 03:21PM


Because this topic is so "hot" in this forum and keeps repeating in your
posts, this will hopefully summarize it and make the issue quite clear to
all that have problems with MailWasher.

The problem: you have a MailWasher installed and now that you installed AVG
Free Edition with the automatic e-mail scanner, you keep receiving messages
that "your e-mail to xxx.yyyy cannot be sent", whereas the xxx.yyy is either
an IP address or a server name. When you uninstall the AVG e-mail scanner or
deactivate scanning of outgoing mails, the problem disappears.

Why is this and how to solve it? These messages come as a result of one
particularly "cool feature" of the MailWasher that is called "spam
bouncing". This option is by default activated and what it does is that when
MailWasher detects a spam, it send (or tries to send) an e-mail to the
account that the spam came from. Cool, huh? No, not at all. First of all,
even if the originating e-mail account is real and valid, this is the best
way how you can say "Hey, I'm here, my account is valid and although I have
a MailWasher installed, you can keep trying to send me more spam and sell my
account to other spammers!" Really "the way to go". But wait, there's more
to this! Typically, nowadays spams are not sent from real accounts and don't
go through mail servers. So when MailWasher tries to send his "polite mail"
back to the originator, there's no mail server there and nobody will accept
the e-mail. And this is the reason why you keep receiving notifications when
AVG EMS is active. When MailWasher is the last program to "touch" outgoing
mail, it just tries to send the e-mail and fails - and does not bother you
with the information. But now there's AVG EMS in between. AVG EMS accepts
the e-mail from MailWasher, scans it for viruses and tries to send it
further - where MailWasher wanted the mail to go. But there's no mailserver
on the other end! What to do now? AVG EMS correctly responds with a message
to you that it did not succeed in sending the mail....
So the most recommended solution to this problem is to deactivate the
spam-bouncing feature of MailWasher. As you can see, there's no point in
sending the e-mail if there is a mailserver out there (as this will confirm
your mail address). And there's no point in sending the e-mail if there
isn't any mail server (which is much more probably the case) as the mail
will not reach the recipient anyway.
Or if you consider this feature really cool and want to use it anyway (),
you can always disable scanning of outgoing e-mails in AVG. Just go to the
AVG Control Center, double-click the E-mail scanner plugin, click the
"Configure" button and de-select the option "Check outgoing mail".

Hope this helps you all


Addition based on your response: OK, I know, the "polite mail" is indeed an
e-mail from the delivery subsystem and it tries to indicate that the address
is not valid. I exaggerated this a bit - but neverthless the meaning and
reason for the bug is the same: MailWasher tries to send an e-mail to a
non-existent mail server and this is why you keep receiving the error
message.
 
Martin said:
But I don't need Mailwasher to do that - OE does that fine just using
filters....



Grisoft's free edition forum, and not so much 'dump' Mailwasher as to dump
the spam-bounce feature (which you have already done), but then I wonder
why on earth you would need to use Mailwasher at all????

Having read your quoted reply it all boils down to the fact that you
shouldn't have the bounce facility of Mailwasher activated.

I don't have any filters set in OE (my choice) but prefer to use Mailwasher
(again my choice). Your insinuation that Grisoft said "Dump Mailwasher"
when they actually said "Dump the Bounce facility in Mailwasher " was a lot
misleading, which was why I asked for the clarification.

The fact remains that Mailwasher and AVG7 can and do co-exist together, NOT
only on my machine but I should think others as well.

Ray.
 
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:46:07 +1100, [Martin] said :-
But I don't need Mailwasher to do that - OE does that fine just using
filters....



Grisoft's free edition forum, and not so much 'dump' Mailwasher as to dump
the spam-bounce feature (which you have already done), but then I wonder why
on earth you would need to use Mailwasher at all????

Anyway, here's the main post from Grisoft's AVG Free Forum on Mailwasher,
there are others:

MailWasher users - read this, please!
Posted by: kodl - Grisoft Team (IP Logged)
Date: November 21, 2004 03:21PM

{.. hogwash response ..}

NEVER bounce spam message.

The information written here is awful, it doesn't mention the fact
that virtually all spam has forged/spoofed 'from' addresses - which
are invariably the mail address of some poor person. Spammers _never_
use their own mail address as the from address, as they don't want
bounce messages or the vast amount of hate mail they would receive.
 
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