AVG Rescue Disks for XP Pro NTFS

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Joe Funk

Hi;
Has anyone tried to use the AVG Rescue Disks on an NTFS system?
The disks I created work fine for FAT32 systems, but on NTFS systems the
AVG boot disks don't see the fiiles and folders on the Hard drives.
I've seen references to using the freeware NTFSDOS in conjunction with
the AVG disks, but I haven't seen instructions on how to do that. Can anyone
help?
Thanks, Joe
 
The FREE version is read-only. To clean the virus infected file(s) on NTFS you have to but
the software which gives you Read/Write/Delete capabilities.

I tried NTFSDOS in conjunction with McAfee's Command Line Scanner but the two different
memory managers were incompatible with each other.

Dave



| Hi;
| Has anyone tried to use the AVG Rescue Disks on an NTFS system?
| The disks I created work fine for FAT32 systems, but on NTFS systems the
| AVG boot disks don't see the fiiles and folders on the Hard drives.
| I've seen references to using the freeware NTFSDOS in conjunction with
| the AVG disks, but I haven't seen instructions on how to do that. Can anyone
| help?
| Thanks, Joe
|
|
 
I wonder if this Microsoft article will help me - HOW TO: Create a Boot Disk
for an NTFS or FAT Partition in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305595
[excerpt]
"You may be able to use a Windows XP bootable disk to start the operating
system on a computer running Windows XP. Use the procedures in this article
to work around the following boot issues:
Damaged boot sector.
Damaged master boot record (MBR).
Virus infections.
Missing or damaged Ntldr or Ntdetect.com files.
Incorrect Ntbootdd.sys driver.
To boot from the shadow of a broken mirror. Please note that you may need to
modify the Boot.ini file to do this.

You cannot use the Windows XP boot disk to help resolve the following
issues:
Incorrect or damaged device drivers that are installed in the System folder.
Boot issues that occur after you see the Windows XP startup (Osloader)
screen.
"
[end excerpt]

Maybe I could add the suggested files to my 1st boot disk, and call
Ntdetect.com from the 1st boot floppy's autoexec.bat?

Joe
 
.... I received this good advice from Robert Green on the newsgroup
alt.comp.virus, for which thanks:
<begin quote>
Won't work. You can boot NT from a floppy, but the the floppy has to
be formatted with an NT boot sector that loads NTLDR, and it wouldn't
help for what you are trying to do.

Really, there is no good way to scan *and* clean an NTFS partition
from a floppy boot. Best approach is to install your DOS antivirus on
a hard disk partition, boot to a safe mode command prompt and run it
from there.

Bob

--
Robert Green
BootMaster Partition Recovery
http://bootmaster.filerecovery.biz
bob[dot]green[at]filerecovery[dot]biz
<end quote>

Joe
 
Joe Funk said:
... I received this good advice from Robert Green on the newsgroup
alt.comp.virus, for which thanks:
<begin quote>
Won't work. You can boot NT from a floppy, but the the floppy has to
be formatted with an NT boot sector that loads NTLDR, and it wouldn't
help for what you are trying to do.

Really, there is no good way to scan *and* clean an NTFS partition
from a floppy boot. Best approach is to install your DOS antivirus on
a hard disk partition, boot to a safe mode command prompt and run it
from there.

The key to running AV under Windows 32 bit is to boot into *safe mode with
command prompt* and run your AV for Windows from the command prompt.

Unfortunately, only W2K and XP have such boot mode (from the F8 multiboot menu).
Win 9x / ME / NT4 don't have it.

This is where the NetZ ToggleMode utility comes to the rescue. ToggleMode will
let boot ANY Win 32 platform into safe mode with command prompt and safely run
your AV. Actually, it's simpler to use the ToggleMode utility than use F8, for
W2K and XP too.

Available (free) from www.invircible.com/item/80

Regards, Zvi
 
Zvi:

Win9x/ME can boot from a clean FAT32 DOS disk.

Dave



|
| > ... I received this good advice from Robert Green on the newsgroup
| > alt.comp.virus, for which thanks:
| > <begin quote>
| > Won't work. You can boot NT from a floppy, but the the floppy has to
| > be formatted with an NT boot sector that loads NTLDR, and it wouldn't
| > help for what you are trying to do.
| >
| > Really, there is no good way to scan *and* clean an NTFS partition
| > from a floppy boot. Best approach is to install your DOS antivirus on
| > a hard disk partition, boot to a safe mode command prompt and run it
| > from there.
|
| The key to running AV under Windows 32 bit is to boot into *safe mode with
| command prompt* and run your AV for Windows from the command prompt.
|
| Unfortunately, only W2K and XP have such boot mode (from the F8 multiboot menu).
| Win 9x / ME / NT4 don't have it.
|
| This is where the NetZ ToggleMode utility comes to the rescue. ToggleMode will
| let boot ANY Win 32 platform into safe mode with command prompt and safely run
| your AV. Actually, it's simpler to use the ToggleMode utility than use F8, for
| W2K and XP too.
|
| Available (free) from www.invircible.com/item/80
|
| Regards, Zvi
| --
| NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
| InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
 
David H. Lipman said:
Zvi:

Win9x/ME can boot from a clean FAT32 DOS disk.

You realize that I am aware of that. ;-) Read
www.invircible.com/iv_tools.php#makeresq and
www.invircible.com/iv_tools.php#freedos for a couple of utilities to boot Win9x,
and especially ME, to plain DOS (I guess that you haven't prepared a boot disk
on an ME platform to start it in plain DOS). ;)

Note that I wrote "run your AV *for Windows*", not for DOS. Sadly, the days of
DOS AV are over, for Windows 9x and ME just as well as for NT based OS and
platforms. Removing the latest viruses and worms requires interactive
manipulations on the registry, and in other configuration areas, that simply
cannot be performed from DOS.

The solution are the various virus removal tools offered by the AV producers -
all run under Windows, and to a lesser extent, the Windows version of the AV
products of all brands. This is the issue addressed in my post.

Cheers, Zvi
 
Yes I do. Its for the READERS of the thread.

McAfee has a Command Line Scanner scan.exe that is a mixed mode executable for both DOS and
Win32. It also has its own memory manager so HIMEM.SYS is not needed in a CONFIG.SYS file.

I use Win98SE boot disk and a ZIP disk in a parallel port ZIP drive with the scanner on the
ZIP disk. AUTOEXEC creates a drive letter for the ZIP disk then executes the scanner from
the ZIP disk then writes a HTML report to the ZIP disk.

Dave



|
| > Zvi:
| >
| > Win9x/ME can boot from a clean FAT32 DOS disk.
|
| You realize that I am aware of that. ;-) Read
| www.invircible.com/iv_tools.php#makeresq and
| www.invircible.com/iv_tools.php#freedos for a couple of utilities to boot Win9x,
| and especially ME, to plain DOS (I guess that you haven't prepared a boot disk
| on an ME platform to start it in plain DOS). ;)
|
| Note that I wrote "run your AV *for Windows*", not for DOS. Sadly, the days of
| DOS AV are over, for Windows 9x and ME just as well as for NT based OS and
| platforms. Removing the latest viruses and worms requires interactive
| manipulations on the registry, and in other configuration areas, that simply
| cannot be performed from DOS.
|
| The solution are the various virus removal tools offered by the AV producers -
| all run under Windows, and to a lesser extent, the Windows version of the AV
| products of all brands. This is the issue addressed in my post.
|
| Cheers, Zvi
|
| > |
| > | > ... I received this good advice from Robert Green on the newsgroup
| > | > alt.comp.virus, for which thanks:
| > | > <begin quote>
| > | > Won't work. You can boot NT from a floppy, but the the floppy has to
| > | > be formatted with an NT boot sector that loads NTLDR, and it wouldn't
| > | > help for what you are trying to do.
| > | >
| > | > Really, there is no good way to scan *and* clean an NTFS partition
| > | > from a floppy boot. Best approach is to install your DOS antivirus on
| > | > a hard disk partition, boot to a safe mode command prompt and run it
| > | > from there.
| > |
| > | The key to running AV under Windows 32 bit is to boot into *safe mode with
| > | command prompt* and run your AV for Windows from the command prompt.
| > |
| > | Unfortunately, only W2K and XP have such boot mode (from the F8 multiboot menu).
| > | Win 9x / ME / NT4 don't have it.
| > |
| > | This is where the NetZ ToggleMode utility comes to the rescue. ToggleMode will
| > | let boot ANY Win 32 platform into safe mode with command prompt and safely run
| > | your AV. Actually, it's simpler to use the ToggleMode utility than use F8, for
| > | W2K and XP too.
| > |
| > | Available (free) from www.invircible.com/item/80
| --
| NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
| InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
 
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