AVG, any info if it will stay free

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Hi Group:
Now that ver 7 is out and has a tariff, does anyone know if they will
continue supporting, the free one???
Thanks
Joe
 
Joe said:
Hi Group:
Now that ver 7 is out and has a tariff, does anyone know if they will
continue supporting, the free one???
Thanks
Joe
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All you can do is to use it until they stop making updates. In my
case, I plan to move on toe AVAST at that point.
 
Nikki said:
i found a free popup stopper at http://popup.yoll.net it works better
than some of the others
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Nikki,
You posted a reply to a thread of another subject. You really
should start a new thread instead.
Regarding the site you provided a link for- well frankly, I would
not install software from such a site. There is nothing there to
assure me that the site doesn't install a virus.
As it turns out anyway:

http://pages.alexa.com/help/privacy.html

the Alexa toolbar is spyware (probably the most clear example I have
ever seen.) Spyware is totally off-topic in this group.
 
Nikki Jones said:
i found a free popup stopper at http://popup.yoll.net it works better
than some of the others
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As John allready mentioned, Alexa is known for their installation of Spyware
(phoning home with information about what you do).

So, what do you think is better : Living with Pop-up's, or living with
Spyware ?

By the way : Dis-allowing Java-script in the Security-settings is enough to
kill *any* pop-up in it's tracks ... No cost, no spyware.

Second "by the way" : "works better than some of the others" is something
you can tag on *anything*, making the phrase having no meaning at all. :-)
Even worse : For everyone that notices as it having no meaning it's a
definitily put-off to acquiring such-named stuff. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser
 
R.Wieser said:
As John allready mentioned, Alexa is known for their installation of Spyware
(phoning home with information about what you do).

So, what do you think is better : Living with Pop-up's, or living with
Spyware ?

By the way : Dis-allowing Java-script in the Security-settings is enough to
kill *any* pop-up in it's tracks ... No cost, no spyware.

Second "by the way" : "works better than some of the others" is something
you can tag on *anything*, making the phrase having no meaning at all. :-)
Even worse : For everyone that notices as it having no meaning it's a
definitily put-off to acquiring such-named stuff. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser
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Or, to be a little more direct- the message looks like an ad (spam?).
 
BoB said:
When I got a new computer recently, I moved on to Avast. I think
you'll like it. Large initial DL
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Shouldn't be a problem for me since I'm lucky enough to have a fiber
optic cable connection.
but the updates only take a few
seconds. For backup, I had used Antivir, Avg, and F-prot for DOS
for years but did not reload any of those. My primary AV is OT.
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Thanks for your input, Bob. For the time being though, AVG is working
nicely and its updates install well. Still, Avast is something that I
should try eventually.
 
Alan said:
Or, to be a little more direct- the message looks like an ad (spam?).
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Alan,
She did posted messages about Alexa to:

24hoursupport.helpdesk
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.setup
microsoft.public.security

as well, so you could be right. And that page she links to may be a
referral link. The link on that page only gives you the option to
install the Alexa spyware toolbar without reading any further about
it. If she posts more about Alexa to ACF, I will file an abuse
complaint against her.
 
Alan <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Hello Alan,
Or, to be a little more direct- the message looks like an ad (spam?).
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I didn't want to to get a slander-suit from honest Spammers :-)

Oh, wait : "honest Spammer" is a contradictio-in-termini, isn't it ;-)

But, to be thruthfull, it could have been (certainly looked like) a honest
advice from someone that did not know about Alexa's SpyWare history ... But
then again : Spammers lie :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser
 
Kitty said:
By disabling Java scripts, what does one lose? If that is, I can get
past the idea that this is MY machine, and NOBODY should be bringing
up stuff that I didn't ask for...

I am missing the point here. Is this Alexia pop up killer okay or is
it not. What does the spyware do that apparently installs along with
their pop up killer?

Thanks,
Kitty
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Go to the software site I mentioned and read through the site, that'll
probably help.
 
Kitty <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnieuws
(e-mail address removed)...

Hello Kitty,

[Big snip]
By disabling Java scripts, what does one lose?
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Some web-sites won't work anymore, because they (the Website-designers)
either *have* to put Java-script into it(although it could be done as easyly
with straight-forward HTML, for the same reason some guys want to own a big
car .. :-), or they need/want you to activate JavaScript so their Pop-up's
and Spyware-scripts will work. I normally avoid both such sites.
If that is, I can get past the idea that this is MY machine,
and NOBODY should be bringing up stuff that I didn't ask for...
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Quite my idea, which is why I disabled it in the first place :-)
I am missing the point here. Is this Alexia pop up killer okay
or is it not.
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*NO* It's not.

Far from it (even when it would be good at stopping pop-up's)
What does the spyware do that apparently installs along with
their pop up killer?
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That spyware will report to the company behind Alexia your every move on the
Web, and maybe more. Just so they can target you with personalized Spam.

Funny, when you come to think of it : They offer you a program that will
terminate unwanted advertisements (displayed as Pop-up's), but that program
contains spyware so they will be able to target specific (probably E-Mail)
Spam your way ... :-)

As I mentioned, just disable Java-script.

If you *need* Java-script for certain sites, just place them in the list
under/provided with the big, green O.K. -mark. Don't forget to up the
settings in the list behind that mark so they will equal (with exeption of
the Java-Script -seting) the ones behind the big world-globe.

That way "malicious" sites (Mis-using their Java-script privilidge) get
cut-off, and you will be able to enable the usage of Java-Script for sites
*you* trust. Like closing your front door and only opening it for known &
trusted people.

If you want to, I can give you specific directions to how to do the above
(Although I'm quite sure you can find information to how to do it on the Web
too).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
If you're at it, disable Active-X too. It's another well-known entry-point
for malicious programs, supplied by (whatever) malicious sites :-\
 
R.Wieser said:
Kitty <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnieuws
(e-mail address removed)...

Hello Kitty,

[Big snip]
By disabling Java scripts, what does one lose?
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Some web-sites won't work anymore, because they (the Website-designers)
either *have* to put Java-script into it(although it could be done as easyly
with straight-forward HTML, for the same reason some guys want to own a big
car .. :-), or they need/want you to activate JavaScript so their Pop-up's
and Spyware-scripts will work. I normally avoid both such sites.
If that is, I can get past the idea that this is MY machine,
and NOBODY should be bringing up stuff that I didn't ask for...
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Quite my idea, which is why I disabled it in the first place :-)
I am missing the point here. Is this Alexia pop up killer okay
or is it not.
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*NO* It's not.

Far from it (even when it would be good at stopping pop-up's)
What does the spyware do that apparently installs along with
their pop up killer?
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That spyware will report to the company behind Alexia your every move on the
Web, and maybe more. Just so they can target you with personalized Spam.
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You're overstating the case here- not all spyware is like this. But that
some is like this is enough (imho) to stop it.
 
I suddenly became aware
rwieser-killthis- said:
So, what do you think is better : Living with Pop-up's, or living with
Spyware ?

By the way : Dis-allowing Java-script in the Security-settings is enough to
kill *any* pop-up in it's tracks ... No cost, no spyware.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser
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Point well taken, but from the perspective of a web designer the use of
scripts is terribly important. Example: A doorway page can determine the
surfer's browser and redirect him to a specific page to be viewed - with
all the various browsers out there, it has become almost impossible to
write code to have each show the page as desired.

--
POKO SAID THAT ...........
reply to (e-mail address removed) don't use VIAGARA
Pat Keenan - Webmaster, Keenan Consulting
http://www.keenanconsulting.on.ca
silly portal: www.keenanconsulting.on.ca/portal.html
 
SINNER said:
While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, POKO was overheard plotting:
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Then people should start coding for the standards instead of using the
special crap provided by one platform which is useless or unsupported or
worse, propriatary and therefore will not work properly on any other
platform.
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I say we blame M$, all in favor.... :P~
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That does have certain charm, to it. ;)
 
POKO <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnieuws
(e-mail address removed)...

Hello Poko,
I suddenly became aware
of<[email protected]>, rwieser-killthis-
@xs4all.nl saying..
[Snip]

Point well taken, but from the perspective of a web designer the use of
scripts is terribly important.
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Not really (in my eyes), but go on ...
Example: A doorway page can determine the
surfer's browser and redirect him to a specific page to be viewed - with
all the various browsers out there, it has become almost impossible to
write code to have each show the page as desired.
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You're right in the point that the different browsers, and even the
*different resolutions*, can pose problems to a (would-be ?) Web-page
designer.

But what should such a Web-page designer do if (when !) he get's an answer
he does not recognise ? Just abort and display nothing ? Or should he
display a default page ?

Maybe even a default page *on which the visitor can choose* the page fit's
best with his particular browser & resolution ?

In other words : Java-script is still an *add-on*, and if it can't do it's
job, the web-page should just use a default (why do you think <noscript> ...
</noscript> was added ? :-)


FYI : When I encounter a web-site I *really* want to visit *and trust !*, I
can put that one into a "trusted sites" -list, which means that for that
site Java-script will be enabled (currently I have got just four sites in
it, but I'm not sure about one of them :-)


By the way : strangely enough, HTML was *never designed* to give an *exact*
representation of what the designer created.

It should display well, even when the user changed the size of the window it
(the html-page) was displayed in. Most web-page designers *wish to
disregard this*, and are more-and-more designing pages that only display
well in certain, fixed, display-sizes (let alone specific (versions of)
browsers ...).

Alas, several html-elements where added to support such a web-page designer
in it's venture, like the (well-known ?) <DIV ...> tag, which enables them
to place certain content on *fixed* positions on a web-page.

It goes against all that HTML stood for, and I've encountered several sites
that went awry (became about un-readable, because of overlapping text &
image-objects) when the page was not displayed in at least 1024x768
*full-screen* mode :-((


I think the question is if I want to be bothered by web-pages that are badly
designed, or do not recognise the fact that there is life outside OE &
Netscape with resolutions of 640x480, 1024x68, etc. The answer is (you
probably guessed it :-) : No. Plain and simple.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser
 
SINNER <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[email protected]...

Hello Sinner,
While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, POKO was overheard plotting:


Then people should start coding for the standards instead of using the
special crap provided by one platform which is useless or unsupported or
worse, propriatary and therefore will not work properly on any other
platform.
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I see no problem in coding for certain standards, but think it's quite
stupid to ignore the fact there is life *outside* those "standards" (who's
"standards" anyway ?)

That attitude resulted in (stupid) messages like "Keyboard not found. Press
F1 to continue" :-)

Let alone the (stupid) standard messages when IE/OE can't connect to the
Internet : *you* are expected to check your password, and the
connection-data (like servers), when actually athe ISP's server is down :-\
(guess what those messages do to unsuspecting *users*, and what they have to
do before it get's clear it's *not* their fault *at all* ! )
I say we blame M$, all in favor.... :P~
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Well, As long as MS holds the largest part of the worlds market, that's an
easy one :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser
 
R.Wieser said:
Alan <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
[email protected]...

Hello Alan,
news:[email protected]...
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[big snip]
You're overstating the case here- not all spyware is like this.
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Really ? :-)

Could you give some *good* usages of SpyWare ? (Or any sort of *ware) that
converses with a home-base *without your (the users) knowledge* ?
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Depends on where you are sitting.
But I think you knowwhat I mean- some does not collect the information that
others do.
 
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