auto-refresh and jump out of frame

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Igor

FP 2000, Win98SE, Apache host w/ FP extensions.

I have a domain that I want just a default page for and after 5 seconds the
user should be auto-forwarded to a main website -- different domain name.
Since I do not want to pay to host just that one page, I figure I can do
URL forwarding w/ my registrar using their URL grabber/frame and just send
the user to any ol' page on a site I have hosted -- while it looks like
they are at my named domain. But, I would like the real URL of the main
website to show up when the person is auto-forwarded there, and I think I
have to use a special format/construct for the link to get it to "jump' out
of the frame. Correct?

How do I do that -- and how do I do that for any "manual" link? Can this
happen in the orig browser window or must it generate a new window? Any
compatibility issues with NS? Thanks.
 
1. You will effect your search engine placement or get you band altogether
for having two domains with the same content.

2. Which is the "real" domain name that you want users to see, the one that
is being forwarded, or the domain that currently has the actual content?

3. Have you checked with your host to see if you can have a second domain
name associated with your current account, requires you have a static IP
account?

4. To easily pop out of a frameset, set the target value of all hyperlinks
to _top (Whole Page).

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1. You will effect your search engine placement or get you band altogether
for having two domains with the same content.

2. Which is the "real" domain name that you want users to see, the one that
is being forwarded, or the domain that currently has the actual content?

3. Have you checked with your host to see if you can have a second domain
name associated with your current account, requires you have a static IP
account?

4. To easily pop out of a frameset, set the target value of all hyperlinks
to _top (Whole Page).
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Thank you for the answer and for the warnings. Well said. I think I have
them in hand.

About the coding, I am not clear. To just do the forward, I use:

<META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh
CONTENT="5;url=http://www.mysite.com/page2.htm">

Where do I put "target=_top"

As for your other comments: The situation is that I have a company name and
a domain name for that which is mostly for e-mail and then a product name
which is the domain name -- and the real website. There is no reason for
me to have the company name in any search engine. Rather, it is just
because some people find it to not look good if you do not have some
webpage to go with your domain you use for e-mail.

So, my company is xyz.com. There, I want a page that says "XYZ Company" to
show while xyz.com appears in the URL field of the browser. After 5
seconds, the person is forwarded to qxz-product.com to shop for my
"qxz-product" -- a new kind of widget. The only site I have an interest in
being listed in search engines is qxz-product.com.

As for the hosting issue, my registrar lets me forward w/o a static IP
address (which I have in any event) by pointing to
/www.qxz-product.com/xyz-company.html. After all, that kind of forwarding
-- with or w/o URL grabber -- is advertised by registrars as a way to use a
custom domain yet host your pages with your ISP. The DNS stays w/ the
registrar and I think they essentially proxy the connection. Since I
already have some alternate names pointing to qxz-product.com w/ and w/o
frames, I can see that in my site stats it shows that the alt names are the
referring URLs.

Again, your warnings are important and appreciated, but I think they are
not a problem the way I am planning to proceed.
 
Igor,

See below.

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Igor said:
Thank you for the answer and for the warnings. Well said. I think I have
them in hand.

About the coding, I am not clear. To just do the forward, I use:

<META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh
CONTENT="5;url=http://www.mysite.com/page2.htm">

Where do I put "target=_top"
Click to expand...

You can't. You can only assign a target value to the actual links that a
user would click on.

As for your other comments: The situation is that I have a company name and
a domain name for that which is mostly for e-mail and then a product name
which is the domain name -- and the real website. There is no reason for
me to have the company name in any search engine. Rather, it is just
because some people find it to not look good if you do not have some
webpage to go with your domain you use for e-mail.
Click to expand...

Personally I would push the company name, and then have a link to my
products from the company web site. When I see products on the web, I also
check out the company behind the product.
So, my company is xyz.com. There, I want a page that says "XYZ Company" to
show while xyz.com appears in the URL field of the browser. After 5
seconds, the person is forwarded to qxz-product.com to shop for my
"qxz-product" -- a new kind of widget. The only site I have an interest in
being listed in search engines is qxz-product.com.
Click to expand...

So I would bring people to xyz.com, explain a little about the company, how
to contact the company, etc. then provide a link to the products offered by
the company which can then link to qxz-product.com. qxz-product.com should
also have a link back to xyz.com. The goals being to make potential customer
feel comfortable with purchasing the products of xyz.com.
 
Igor,

See below.
Click to expand...

[snip]

This is a bit OT for this particular NG, but here goes re your business
comments: Imagine someone invented Frisbee today and wanted to sell it
on-line, so they build a frisbee.com website. And, they start a company
named Wham-o, Inc. for all the reasons people incorporate a venture --
legal reasons, and they'll have "room" (a broader name) for product #2 if
they should get lucky enough with #1. Do they really need a Wham-o
website, or even an Internet identity beyond Frisbee? Not IMO. But, they
might use whamo.com for their e-mail. And, at Frisbee.com they might have
an About page that lists some things about Wham-o. But they do not want to
spend any scarce marketing dollars on the name Wham-o, at least at the
start. That is my kind of situation -- even if I did not invent something
as societally profound as Frisbee.

Some people might say in this story that the entity should call itself
Frisbee, Inc., and there is something to be said for that. But I am not
persuaded in my particular circumstances -- especially when I take into
account some local DBA/fictional-name legal issues.

Think about it this way on a grand scale: There is a website viagra.com for
the drug. And there is a separate website for the company that makes it.
And the two are connected. But if you type in viagra.com you go to that
separate site. It's not Pfizer who brings you viagra (except when wall st
is involved), it is viagra brought to you by Pfizer. And, while Pfizer
does some brand ID ads, when viagra was launched it was all "viagra" -- the
product name.

I see many companies with one product or one product line. Now, when I buy
an oven I want to know about the company -- warranty issues, among other
things. But if I'm buying this new thing called a Frisbee, I don't care
about Wham-o.
 
Igor,

I am sorry I was not clearer.

Basically you can do exactly like Pfizer has done with the viagra.com
website, they have a link to pfizer.com so that visitor can also learn about
the company behind the product, plus their copyright notice also indicates
the company behind the product.

However you indicate the you want to point the company name to the product
website, which is fine, IMO, as long as the link take the visitor to a page
within the product website that is about the company behind the product.

BTW: I prefer to know who I am paying when ordering over the internet, so I
always do a little research first (like looking for contact info with a
telephone number, street address, etc.), no matter what the product or cost
is, as web sites can be online one minute and gone the next.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Igor said:
Igor,

See below.
Click to expand...

[snip]

This is a bit OT for this particular NG, but here goes re your business
comments: Imagine someone invented Frisbee today and wanted to sell it
on-line, so they build a frisbee.com website. And, they start a company
named Wham-o, Inc. for all the reasons people incorporate a venture --
legal reasons, and they'll have "room" (a broader name) for product #2 if
they should get lucky enough with #1. Do they really need a Wham-o
website, or even an Internet identity beyond Frisbee? Not IMO. But, they
might use whamo.com for their e-mail. And, at Frisbee.com they might have
an About page that lists some things about Wham-o. But they do not want to
spend any scarce marketing dollars on the name Wham-o, at least at the
start. That is my kind of situation -- even if I did not invent something
as societally profound as Frisbee.

Some people might say in this story that the entity should call itself
Frisbee, Inc., and there is something to be said for that. But I am not
persuaded in my particular circumstances -- especially when I take into
account some local DBA/fictional-name legal issues.

Think about it this way on a grand scale: There is a website viagra.com for
the drug. And there is a separate website for the company that makes it.
And the two are connected. But if you type in viagra.com you go to that
separate site. It's not Pfizer who brings you viagra (except when wall st
is involved), it is viagra brought to you by Pfizer. And, while Pfizer
does some brand ID ads, when viagra was launched it was all "viagra" -- the
product name.

I see many companies with one product or one product line. Now, when I buy
an oven I want to know about the company -- warranty issues, among other
things. But if I'm buying this new thing called a Frisbee, I don't care
about Wham-o.
Click to expand...
 
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