Attn: Zakezuke

[Mary]

Hi Zazezuke,
Since we talked a lot about the Canon Ip4000 before, just to let you
know I got one recently. It must be the only one in the city. I wasn't
looking for it. I was looking for an IP3000 which would be ok. I got
the 4000 at a chain dept. store which is not in a very busy area like
most of its stores. They had an ip3000 but it was a display model with
no box or manual or ink. Then I saw the IP4000 box on a shelf and looked
like the box hadn't been opened.I asked the sales clerk how long the box
was in the store and could it be a year or so, and he said it could be.
he wasn't sure. But quite a while anyway.
It was more money than I wanted to pay -$140.00. you can buy printers
for half that price but I considered the price of carts, not just
printer..(I have only the Canon one warranty with the 4000) and had to
be willing to possibly forget about my second year of Staples extended
warranty unless I give them my ip1500 sometime in the next year for
another printer. Have to see.

The ip4000 box had in fact never been opened and everything inside was
packed as it should be and inks were sealed up properly and so was
printhead.

I've been trying it out and so far, it seems ok. But remember before
with my ip 1500, I said my indoor shots of peoples faces were a little
pink and got Canon to send me a new printhead and the pinky tone was
gone? The ip4000 seems to do the same thing, though peoples clothes are
a bit darker and a little bit richer colors than the 1500, especially
the blacks. But this time, unlike before, it wouldn't be the printhead
as it was sealed in an package. I tried lightening the magenta a little
and that helped the face color a bit, but made peoples clothes too light
in color.I am using the same photo paper (Kodak semi gloss) as I used
with the ip1500 and it was ok in regard to peoples faces (after I got
the new printhead that is). I might try adjusting though I shouldn't
have to and didn't have to with the 1500. It looks like there is a
little too much magenta on peoples faces which might create that
slightly pink tinge, though its not really bad.

I will keep the refurb 1500 for now. It works fine so far. To be honest,
I can't see an awful lot of difference in photo printing between the
ip1500 and the ip 4000 except the 4000 has a bit darker colors of
peoples clothes for indoor shots but have those pinky faces back which I
thought I was rid of . It wouldn't be because the inks were sitting
in the box for many months would it?
Outdoor shots are much the same as the 1500.

The main reason I got the ip4000 was because of the chip in the 4200 and
I wouldn't be able to get compatibles and don't want to do refilling and
Canon ink is too expensive, and also I don't see any printers around
that I like. The carts for the 4000 are more money than the ip1500, but
the carts are bigger, so I hope will last longer, and I hope that the
color carts won't all go at much the same time which happened with my
Epson C64 and put me off separate color carts. The 4000 is bigger than I
wanted and takes up more room on my small table, but I guess I will get
used to it.
The printer is quieter than the 1500 and a little faster.

I haven't figured out how to use the cassette thing at the bottom of the
printer. Does it take 8X11 pages? I just use the back part of the
printer to put my paper in as I am used to that. I saw a review for
ip4000R - I've never seen that model before. I presume its a 4000 but
with something else added that 4000 doesn't have. whatever it is, I
don't need it.

Mary

 

[Burt]

Hi Zazezuke,
Since we talked a lot about the Canon Ip4000 before, just to let you
know I got one recently. It must be the only one in the city. I wasn't
looking for it. I was looking for an IP3000 which would be ok. I got
the 4000 at a chain dept. store which is not in a very busy area like
most of its stores. They had an ip3000 but it was a display model with
no box or manual or ink. Then I saw the IP4000 box on a shelf and looked
like the box hadn't been opened.I asked the sales clerk how long the box
was in the store and could it be a year or so, and he said it could be.
he wasn't sure. But quite a while anyway.
It was more money than I wanted to pay -$140.00. you can buy printers
for half that price but I considered the price of carts, not just
printer..(I have only the Canon one warranty with the 4000) and had to
be willing to possibly forget about my second year of Staples extended
warranty unless I give them my ip1500 sometime in the next year for
another printer. Have to see.

The ip4000 box had in fact never been opened and everything inside was
packed as it should be and inks were sealed up properly and so was
printhead.

I've been trying it out and so far, it seems ok. But remember before
with my ip 1500, I said my indoor shots of peoples faces were a little
pink and got Canon to send me a new printhead and the pinky tone was
gone? The ip4000 seems to do the same thing, though peoples clothes are
a bit darker and a little bit richer colors than the 1500, especially
the blacks. But this time, unlike before, it wouldn't be the printhead
as it was sealed in an package. I tried lightening the magenta a little
and that helped the face color a bit, but made peoples clothes too light
in color.I am using the same photo paper (Kodak semi gloss) as I used
with the ip1500 and it was ok in regard to peoples faces (after I got
the new printhead that is). I might try adjusting though I shouldn't
have to and didn't have to with the 1500. It looks like there is a
little too much magenta on peoples faces which might create that
slightly pink tinge, though its not really bad.

I will keep the refurb 1500 for now. It works fine so far. To be honest,
I can't see an awful lot of difference in photo printing between the
ip1500 and the ip 4000 except the 4000 has a bit darker colors of
peoples clothes for indoor shots but have those pinky faces back which I
thought I was rid of . It wouldn't be because the inks were sitting
in the box for many months would it?
Outdoor shots are much the same as the 1500.

The main reason I got the ip4000 was because of the chip in the 4200 and
I wouldn't be able to get compatibles and don't want to do refilling and
Canon ink is too expensive, and also I don't see any printers around
that I like. The carts for the 4000 are more money than the ip1500, but
the carts are bigger, so I hope will last longer, and I hope that the
color carts won't all go at much the same time which happened with my
Epson C64 and put me off separate color carts. The 4000 is bigger than I
wanted and takes up more room on my small table, but I guess I will get
used to it.
The printer is quieter than the 1500 and a little faster.

I haven't figured out how to use the cassette thing at the bottom of the
printer. Does it take 8X11 pages? I just use the back part of the
printer to put my paper in as I am used to that. I saw a review for
ip4000R - I've never seen that model before. I presume its a 4000 but
with something else added that 4000 doesn't have. whatever it is, I
don't need it.

Mary

Mary - My i960 canon printer seems to lean on the pink side with photos of
people who have a more pink or red cast to their skin. For those photos I
adjust the magenta down slightly and the prints are very good. Glad to see
that you found an ip4000. Even at that price it was a good find as the
remaining ip4000's are selling at a real premium. If you are near a Costco
store or have a friend who is a member I would suggest their Kirkland glossy
photo paper. $19 for 125 sheets and it prints beautifully. personally, I
never liked Kodak paper for my Epson or Canon printers, but I never tried
their semi-gloss paper. You will get a lot more milage from the bci-6 carts
and they don't necessarily empty at the same time. Depends on what colors
are in the photos you print. The cassette at the bottom is not absolutely
necessary to use. It is convenient if you want to keep plain paper in it
for text printing and use the top deck for photo paper. Because the paper
makes a "u-turn" when feeding from the cassette, it isn't the best place to
feed photo paper.

 

[Mary]

Hi Burt,

Mary - My i960 canon printer seems to lean on the pink side with photos of
people who have a more pink or red cast to their skin. For those photos I
adjust the magenta down slightly and the prints are very good.

As I mentioned in my previous message, I tried that and the skin of the
people did look better but their clothes were a lighter color than in
reality and remember I had that problem with my ip1500 and phoned Canon
and they sent me the new printhead and the pinky tone wasn't noticeable
any more. I didn't need to make any adjustment with the new printhead.
That was after I got the refurb ip1500 and put the new printhead in it.
And also, before I got the pink tone in the photos in the first place,
there was no pink tone in the photos or at least nothing noticeable. The
new printhead fixed it. but the printhead can't be the problem with the
4000 as the printhead is new.

Glad to see
that you found an ip4000. Even at that price it was a good find as the
remaining ip4000's are selling at a real premium.

I didn't expect to find it, especially one still unopened in a box. It
was just coincidence that I dropped by a store I used to live near but
haven't been to in a couple of years. I had an IP 3000 in mind and had
seen a display model in one of their other stores and thought if they
had the box and sealed inks, I might take it as they are quite good if
you needed to take something back if it didn't work right. But I didn't
expect to see an ip 4000 anywhere.

If you are near a Costco
store or have a friend who is a member I would suggest their Kirkland glossy
photo paper. $19 for 125 sheets and it prints beautifully. personally, I
never liked Kodak paper for my Epson or Canon printers, but I never tried
their semi-gloss paper.

Well, a couple of things. I don't belong to Costco, though I did years
ago.There is one not all that far from where I live, but I found when I
went there years ago, I never bought much and it seemed more suited to a
couple with children. I found it wasn't really worth my membership fee,
as the idea is to save money , at least now and then and I found I
didn't save any. The fee which used to be $35.00 Can. is now $55.00 (the
Can. dollar is quite close to the US dollar these days so I won't bother
to convert). I tried other makes of photo paper now and then but I like
Kodak soft gloss the best. Its called Kodak Picture Paper and you can
print on both sides which I find very handy. I do not like glossy and
high glossy is even worse. It bothers my eyes and I don't like the look
of it.

You will get a lot more milage from the bci-6 carts
and they don't necessarily empty at the same time. Depends on what colors
are in the photos you print.

With the Epson, they didn't empty at the exact same time, but say the
magenta was empty one day, I would get it refilled as there was no
compatibles for Epson C64 and don't think there is now, and say in
another week, the blue would be gone, then say another week and the aqua
would be gone so I was always running back and forth to the refillers,
which is not all that close to me. It was a huge nuisance. For me at
least, compatibles is the way I will go.

The cassette at the bottom is not absolutely

necessary to use. It is convenient if you want to keep plain paper in it
for text printing and use the top deck for photo paper. Because the paper
makes a "u-turn" when feeding from the cassette, it isn't the best place to
feed photo paper.

So thats how it works. the manual is not too clear on that part. Doesn't
the cassette also take 6X4 photo paper? Does the cassette take 8X11? It
looks too small an area with the slider in the way for that. I do mostly
text printing, unless on my photo binges, which I am trying not to do.
thats probably why my IP got the absorber pads filled up. so probably I
should keep the text paper on the top most of the time. But since my
photo paper is double sided, it might be best to just put it on the top
when I am doing photo printing.

Mary

 

[zakezuke]

Hi Zazezuke,
Since we talked a lot about the Canon Ip4000 before, just to let you
know I got one recently. It must be the only one in the city. I wasn't
looking for it. I was looking for an IP3000 which would be ok. I got
the 4000 at a chain dept. store which is not in a very busy area like
most of its stores. They had an ip3000 but it was a display model with
no box or manual or ink. Then I saw the IP4000 box on a shelf and looked
like the box hadn't been opened.I asked the sales clerk how long the box
was in the store and could it be a year or so, and he said it could be.
he wasn't sure. But quite a while anyway.

Hey great. I can still find if I look the ip4000 returned or a new
ip5000. Thing is they want US$150 for the ip5000 where my ip5200 cost
under US$120 and I don't mind manual refilling.

The ip4000 box had in fact never been opened and everything inside was
packed as it should be and inks were sealed up properly and so was
printhead.

I've been trying it out and so far, it seems ok. But remember before
with my ip 1500, I said my indoor shots of peoples faces were a little
pink and got Canon to send me a new printhead and the pinky tone was
gone? The ip4000 seems to do the same thing, though peoples clothes are
a bit darker and a little bit richer colors than the 1500, especially
the blacks.


But this time, unlike before, it wouldn't be the printhead
as it was sealed in an package. I tried lightening the magenta a little
and that helped the face color a bit, but made peoples clothes too light
in color.I am using the same photo paper (Kodak semi gloss) as I used
with the ip1500 and it was ok in regard to peoples faces (after I got
the new printhead that is). I might try adjusting though I shouldn't
have to and didn't have to with the 1500. It looks like there is a
little too much magenta on peoples faces which might create that
slightly pink tinge, though its not really bad.

Before you tweek with the printer settings, try the stock ones with the
enclosed paper... the small 5 pack of pr-101. Also try"photo paper
plus glossy" -10 magenta +5 yellow.

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet sub catagory "printer settings".

Also the Kodak easy share software is geared tward their paper, you may
download from the same website if you like. Also there is "ez photo
print", software which comes with your canon, which also offers unique
benifits as far as color auto correction.

I will keep the refurb 1500 for now. It works fine so far. To be honest,
I can't see an awful lot of difference in photo printing between the
ip1500 and the ip 4000 except the 4000 has a bit darker colors of
peoples clothes for indoor shots but have those pinky faces back which I
thought I was rid of . It wouldn't be because the inks were sitting
in the box for many months would it?
Outdoor shots are much the same as the 1500.

It should be a good deal faster, and take cheaper ink. Quality wise
i'd lean tward the ip4000. You and I are in a similar boat, I have
both the ip3000 and the mp760 (basicly an ip4000) and it's rare that I
notice prints are better on the ip4000.

I haven't figured out how to use the cassette thing at the bottom of the
printer. Does it take 8X11 pages? I just use the back part of the
printer to put my paper in as I am used to that. I saw a review for
ip4000R - I've never seen that model before. I presume its a 4000 but
with something else added that 4000 doesn't have. whatever it is, I
don't need it.

The paper tray below is telesoping, as in you pull the little lever and
pull it out to accept 8.5x11 paper, or contract it in to take 4x6
paper. A good system is to load up the lower tray with regular paper,
and put thicker paper, photo paper, envelops, and odd ball stuff in the
rear feeder. The rear feed is more straight where the lower feed needs
to make a U turn. My brother couldn't figure this out on his own
either.

 

[Gary Tait]

I've been trying it out and so far, it seems ok. But remember before
with my ip 1500, I said my indoor shots of peoples faces were a little
pink and got Canon to send me a new printhead and the pinky tone was
gone? The ip4000 seems to do the same thing, though peoples clothes are
a bit darker and a little bit richer colors than the 1500, especially
the blacks. But this time, unlike before, it wouldn't be the printhead
as it was sealed in an package. I tried lightening the magenta a little
and that helped the face color a bit, but made peoples clothes too light
in color.I am using the same photo paper (Kodak semi gloss) as I used

Set Mageneta -10, yellow +5, intensity +5, for that paper

Canon ink is too expensive, and also I don't see any printers around
that I like. The carts for the 4000 are more money than the ip1500, but
the carts are bigger, so I hope will last longer, and I hope that the
color carts won't all go at much the same time which happened with my

Put your money into ain ink "kitty", and withdraw from that to buy ing
for either printer.

I haven't figured out how to use the cassette thing at the bottom of the
printer. Does it take 8X11 pages? I just use the back part of the
printer to put my paper in as I am used to that. I saw a review for
ip4000R - I've never seen that model before. I presume its a 4000 but
with something else added that 4000 doesn't have. whatever it is, I
don't need it.

The tray is extendible to use 8x11 pages. Pull it out, take off the lid,
and you will see a grey lever to the left of the pull out handle. Pull
that forward and you can slide the tray in or out. You will have to pull
it all the way out and let it lock.

Note that you put the printing surface down (it took me a couple tries
to get that right).

 

[Mary]

Thank you for the information Gary.

Mary

used

Set Mageneta -10, yellow +5, intensity +5, for that paper
my

Put your money into ain ink "kitty", and withdraw from that to buy ing
for either printer.


The tray is extendible to use 8x11 pages. Pull it out, take off the lid,
and you will see a grey lever to the left of the pull out handle. Pull
that forward and you can slide the tray in or out. You will have to pull
it all the way out and let it lock.

Note that you put the printing surface down (it took me a couple tries
to get that right).

 

[Mary]

Hey great. I can still find if I look the ip4000 returned or a new
ip5000. Thing is they want US$150 for the ip5000 where my ip5200 cost
under US$120 and I don't mind manual refilling.

Where did you see ip4000? I saw it listed as used on Amazon.com for some
ridiculous price of $299.99 US or something. I can't imagine anyone
paying that much money. I don't see the ip5000 here, but see the ip5200
in staples stores but its a lot more money here even with Can. $ close
to US dollar.

Before you tweek with the printer settings, try the stock ones with the
enclosed paper... the small 5 pack of pr-101. Also try"photo paper
plus glossy" -10 magenta +5 yellow.

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet sub catagory "printer settings".

I checked the above and I use soft gloss PP-1-A and its listed but for
matte, which seems to be the same number. It says for "Advanced" to set
it at "High" whis is where you set High or STandard, etc. I guess it
means. I always set it at High anyway. It doesn't mention anything about
adjusting colors.

Also the Kodak easy share software is geared tward their paper, you may
download from the same website if you like. Also there is "ez photo
print", software which comes with your canon, which also offers unique
benifits as far as color auto correction.

I usually use Irfanview which I like. I don't know if ez photo print is
any better than Irfanview. Irfanview is fine and my photos print fine,
except for the pinkish face tones, and if its a picture taken outside,
if its say a gray pavement, it can have a slightly pinkish tone instead
of being a real gray. I need to experiment with adjusting colors to get
things right and leave it that way. It drives me crazy trying different
settings for colors. For now, I think I will do what Burt mentioned and
try to adjust the magenta which seems to be the problem, and if that
doesn't work well enough, I will try something else.Maybe even try the
ez print you mention from Kodak.

It should be a good deal faster, and take cheaper ink. Quality wise
i'd lean tward the ip4000. You and I are in a similar boat, I have
both the ip3000 and the mp760 (basicly an ip4000) and it's rare that I
notice prints are better on the ip4000.

Cheaper ink is what I am most interested in. doesn't matter if its fast

The paper tray below is telesoping, as in you pull the little lever and
pull it out to accept 8.5x11 paper, or contract it in to take 4x6
paper. A good system is to load up the lower tray with regular paper,
and put thicker paper, photo paper, envelops, and odd ball stuff in the
rear feeder. The rear feed is more straight where the lower feed needs
to make a U turn. My brother couldn't figure this out on his own
either.

I haven't really looked into it too much yet and don't really need to.
But its good to know how everything works. By the way, you know the CD
labels printing you always talk about. I think you referred someone here
to Steves Digicams recently about the subject. On one of the messages on
the forum it talks about setting the printer up for printing CD labels
and to choose that from the printer menu. I don't see anything about CD
labels on my ip4000. Where are you supposed to set it? I don't need to
print CD labels, but I just wondered why I don't have a setting for
that, since ip4000 is supposed to have the feature. Don't printers in
Canada have this feature?

Mary

 

[Mary]

Forgot to answer a couple of things.

used

Set Mageneta -10, yellow +5, intensity +5, for that paper

I might try that, but have some other ideas to try first. I use Kodak
soft gloss, so whether
that is the same as semi gloss settings I don't know. With the ip1500, I
didn't
have to make any adjustments to color with the same photo paper I am
still using, unless using individual carts changes colors a little. Its
the same problem I had when I had the old ip1500 but when Canon sent me
the new printhead, the problem of pink in faces was gone.
What program do you use for printing photos by the way?

my

Put your money into ain ink "kitty", and withdraw from that to buy ing
for either printer.

I am not sure what to do about the ip1500. I guess I will have to use it
sometimes to keep the ink flowing. I don't know how often you have to do
that. I won't be using the ip1500 much.

The tray is extendible to use 8x11 pages. Pull it out, take off the lid,
and you will see a grey lever to the left of the pull out handle. Pull
that forward and you can slide the tray in or out. You will have to pull
it all the way out and let it lock.

OK thanks. I'll check it out

Note that you put the printing surface down (it took me a couple tries
to get that right).

Mary

 

[zakezuke]

Where did you see ip4000? I saw it listed as used on Amazon.com for some
ridiculous price of $299.99 US or something. I can't imagine anyone
paying that much money. I don't see the ip5000 here, but see the ip5200
in staples stores but its a lot more money here even with Can. $ close
to US dollar.

I saw one in a local shop... on a close out table, the ip5000 I saw at
the same shop, compusa. I actually went to a store for a change. It's
not listed on the website it seems.

I checked the above and I use soft gloss PP-1-A and its listed but for
matte, which seems to be the same number. It says for "Advanced" to set
it at "High" whis is where you set High or STandard, etc. I guess it
means. I always set it at High anyway. It doesn't mention anything about
adjusting colors.

Ah, they are reccomending "matte paper" rather than "glossy paper pro"
or the other options for papers.

I usually use Irfanview which I like. I don't know if ez photo print is
any better than Irfanview. Irfanview is fine and my photos print fine,
except for the pinkish face tones, and if its a picture taken outside,
if its say a gray pavement, it can have a slightly pinkish tone instead
of being a real gray. I need to experiment with adjusting colors to get
things right and leave it that way. It drives me crazy trying different
settings for colors. For now, I think I will do what Burt mentioned and
try to adjust the magenta which seems to be the problem, and if that
doesn't work well enough, I will try something else.Maybe even try the
ez print you mention from Kodak.

EZ photo print is Canon's solution to printing images, comes on the CD
or you can download it from Canon. Kodak easy share is the software
Kodak offers which is, according to them geared to their paper.

I haven't really looked into it too much yet and don't really need to.
But its good to know how everything works. By the way, you know the CD
labels printing you always talk about. I think you referred someone here
to Steves Digicams recently about the subject. On one of the messages on
the forum it talks about setting the printer up for printing CD labels
and to choose that from the printer menu. I don't see anything about CD
labels on my ip4000. Where are you supposed to set it? I don't need to
print CD labels, but I just wondered why I don't have a setting for
that, since ip4000 is supposed to have the feature. Don't printers in
Canada have this feature?

The menu option is hidden. North and probally South American models
have this feature disabled. To use it, you'd have to enable the
feature. You can either order a tray from e-bay, or i'm told you can
contact canon parts in Canada and get one. E-bay they fetch like
$20ish US.

If you are interested in the details visit http://pixma.allhyper.com/

It's a handy feature, one which I use very often.

 

[Gary Tait]

Forgot to answer a couple of things.



I might try that, but have some other ideas to try first. I use Kodak
soft gloss, so whether
that is the same as semi gloss settings I don't know. With the ip1500, I
didn't
have to make any adjustments to color with the same photo paper I am
still using, unless using individual carts changes colors a little. Its
the same problem I had when I had the old ip1500 but when Canon sent me
the new printhead, the problem of pink in faces was gone.
What program do you use for printing photos by the way?

For that paper, I print from my Slowview image viewer (so I can set the
profile.)
Otherwise I print from the Canon Photo printing app.

am not sure what to do about the ip1500. I guess I will have to use it
sometimes to keep the ink flowing. I don't know how often you have to do
that. I won't be using the ip1500 much.

Weekly will do. If you can flush the head and store it, you could do
that.

 

[Burt]

Where did you see ip4000? I saw it listed as used on Amazon.com for some
ridiculous price of $299.99 US or something. I can't imagine anyone
paying that much money. I don't see the ip5000 here, but see the ip5200
in staples stores but its a lot more money here even with Can. $ close
to US dollar.


I checked the above and I use soft gloss PP-1-A and its listed but for
matte, which seems to be the same number. It says for "Advanced" to set
it at "High" whis is where you set High or STandard, etc. I guess it
means. I always set it at High anyway. It doesn't mention anything about
adjusting colors.


I usually use Irfanview which I like. I don't know if ez photo print is
any better than Irfanview. Irfanview is fine and my photos print fine,
except for the pinkish face tones, and if its a picture taken outside,
if its say a gray pavement, it can have a slightly pinkish tone instead
of being a real gray. I need to experiment with adjusting colors to get
things right and leave it that way. It drives me crazy trying different
settings for colors. For now, I think I will do what Burt mentioned and
try to adjust the magenta which seems to be the problem, and if that
doesn't work well enough, I will try something else.Maybe even try the
ez print you mention from Kodak.


Cheaper ink is what I am most interested in. doesn't matter if its fast



I haven't really looked into it too much yet and don't really need to.
But its good to know how everything works. By the way, you know the CD
labels printing you always talk about. I think you referred someone here
to Steves Digicams recently about the subject. On one of the messages on
the forum it talks about setting the printer up for printing CD labels
and to choose that from the printer menu. I don't see anything about CD
labels on my ip4000. Where are you supposed to set it? I don't need to
print CD labels, but I just wondered why I don't have a setting for
that, since ip4000 is supposed to have the feature. Don't printers in
Canada have this feature?

Mary

Some of the simpler photo printing software either supplies its own
automatic color correction (?) and/or overrides any adjustments you make in
the canon driver. Typical of this problem is the printing software that
comes with the Canon printers.