ATI going to make any more high-end AGP cards?

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I'm really happy w/my present system (Barton @ 2.33Ghz, NF7s v2.0, 1GB DDR3200,
9800Pro) but it would be nice to get a faster video card. What I mean by faster
here is a vid-card at least twice as fast as my overclocked 9800 Pro. Has ATI
officially abandoned AGP for it's high-end vid cards? Has Nvidia also obsoleted
AGP?
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It seems like the new PCs are all going to PCI Express, and if so I
think AGP is doomed.

That said, you do have some head room to grow, the ATI X800XT PE is AGP
and it's a good 2x faster than what you have depending on what you are
doing (that's what Tomshardware.com 3DMark2003 tests show anyway). I
splurged and got one since my former video card was very old, and I
love it. They even have it doing automatic overclocking based on
temperature sensing!

The price will drop in the next 6 months for it, as it's a little hard
to get now (I got mine at allstarshop.com), I got an OEM one it was in
stock.
 
Wblane said:
Has ATI officially abandoned AGP for it's high-end vid cards? Has Nvidia also obsoleted
AGP?
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No both companies will continue to make high-end cards but they will be
bridged PCI-Express>AGP.But nVidia uses a low-quality bridge that they
developed in 2 months and ATI is trying to create the best bridge
possible.The bridge is due to come out in late February and all ATIs
high-end cards are going to become AGP ready.
My recommendation is a Radeon X800 XL.
 
me said:
It seems like the new PCs are all going to PCI Express, and if so I
think AGP is doomed.

That said, you do have some head room to grow, the ATI X800XT PE is AGP
and it's a good 2x faster than what you have depending on what you are
doing (that's what Tomshardware.com 3DMark2003 tests show anyway). I
splurged and got one since my former video card was very old, and I
love it. They even have it doing automatic overclocking based on
temperature sensing!

The price will drop in the next 6 months for it, as it's a little hard
to get now (I got mine at allstarshop.com), I got an OEM one it was in
stock.
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I wouldn't say doomed as much as will slowly be grandfathered out. Virtually
every PC out there has an AGP slot in it, so there's still lots of people
willing to upgrade, which in business terms means a profitable opportunity.
From the sounds of it, it may be possible to add a bridge chip to make the
PCI-Express video card architecture compatible with AGP architecture. In
short, this basically means manufacturers won't have to develop a separate
AGP and PCI-E card. Just add the bridge chip to an AGP PCB and away you go.
Cheap for manufacturers, and they can offer the best of both worlds. See the
article at Tom's Hardware:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040310/pcie-10.html
 
McQualude said:
Ya think?
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Not any time soon, still have 99.9% of users to upgrade to PCI Express
from AGP. Why rush? Don't see any X800XT PE PCI Express cards, nor many
6800 Ultra solutions either. Not going to downgrade the graphics, just
to jump on the nForce4 SLI bandwagon, either are many others IMHO
 
Minotaur said:
Not any time soon, still have 99.9% of users to upgrade to PCI Express
from AGP. Why rush? Don't see any X800XT PE PCI Express cards, nor many
6800 Ultra solutions either.
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Huh? Froogle shows about 270 hits for "6800 Ultra AGP" and about 460 for
"6800 Ultra PCI Express", and about the same number of "X800XT PE PCI
Express" as "X800XT PE AGP".
Not going to downgrade the graphics, just
to jump on the nForce4 SLI bandwagon, either are many others IMHO
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What does "the nForce4 SLI bandwagon" have to do with anything? Intel has
decreed that AGP is dead, and unless something radical happens in the PC
market that's the way it's going to be. Nforce4 is a reaction to Intel,
nothing more--the SLI capability is probably an afterthought--they just
split one PCI x16 slot into 2 x8s.
 
That's some good news. So I won't have to dump my NF7s v2.0 just yet? I do have
a Mobile Athlon 2600+ I just bought for the system, but I haven't bothered to
put it in.

Is Doom2 bottlenecked more by the vid-card or the CPU in my system (I have a
gig of dual channel RAM @ 200 Mhz. and a Barton @ 2.33Ghz and an overclocked
9800Pro)
That said, you do have some head room to grow, the ATI X800XT PE is AGP
and it's a good 2x faster than what you have depending on what you are
doing (that's what Tomshardware.com 3DMark2003 tests show anyway). I
splurged and got one since my former video card was very old, and I
love it. They even have it doing automatic overclocking based on
temperature sensing!

The price will drop in the next 6 months for it, as it's a little hard
to get now (I got mine at allstarshop.com), I got an OEM one it was in
stock.
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-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
 
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