ATI AIW 8500 dv using mmc 7.1

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This sucks. One day sound doesn't work, the next day the scheduler doesn't work.
I'm using XP on 2 ghz system, 1 gig ram, 400 gig HD space.

Is there a newer version of MMC software that is stable?
 
bottomfeeder said:
This sucks. One day sound doesn't work, the next day the scheduler doesn't
work.
I'm using XP on 2 ghz system, 1 gig ram, 400 gig HD space.

Is there a newer version of MMC software that is stable?
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MMC 9.02 seems fine here with my 8500DV (a couple of small bugs, mostly
sound related but nothing really bad). You'll need an MMC 8.1 CD (or
newer)to fully install its DVD Decoder though.

Paul
 
Well, that was an experiment in disaster. BSOD galore. Went back one upgrade at
a time and used DC3 in between each install, cold reboots, dumped the recycle
bin each time, spent the day in safe mode. Now I have the video drivers
installed but 7.1 MMC fails to complete initialization - BSOD everytime.

What crap. The hundreds of different versions listed at ATI's website makes any
driver install a real nightmare. You'd think they'd develop a unified
installation procedure that could detect the products they sell.

I think I'll look for a different TV and vid card combo.

Sigh
 
bottomfeeder said:
Well, that was an experiment in disaster. BSOD galore. Went back one upgrade at
a time and used DC3 in between each install, cold reboots, dumped the recycle
bin each time, spent the day in safe mode. Now I have the video drivers
installed but 7.1 MMC fails to complete initialization - BSOD everytime.

What crap. The hundreds of different versions listed at ATI's website makes any
driver install a real nightmare. You'd think they'd develop a unified
installation procedure that could detect the products they sell.

I think I'll look for a different TV and vid card combo.

Sigh
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I have it working reasonably OK with MMC 7.7 though sometimes it crashes and
needs to
be stopped from the task manger before it will run again. It also sometimes
loses the sound
and requires a restart (Win2K).

Is there any consesnsus on what the best combination of drivers/MMC for
these cards is. I
don't care about 3D gaming, I would just like good stable 2D performance and
the MMC/vid
capture to work well.

Agree, the web site is really confusing after last looking at it about 3
years ago since they stopped
supporting the AIW Rage Pro drivers.

CJK
 
I started again from scratch. got the latest drivers 5.5 and MMC 9.08 and
installed them. The VGA driver side of things works fine. The TV side using MMC
functions, but I can't get it to schedule recodings properly. When I click the
'X' to close the TV, the ATI 'owns' the computer for the next ten minutes and
the sound never stops form my satelite reciever even after it does close. Still
broken in many ways. The TV part was the main reason I got this thing, to serve
as a PVR to be able to burn DVD's.

Double sigh.
 
CJK said:
I have it working reasonably OK with MMC 7.7 though sometimes it crashes and
needs to
be stopped from the task manger before it will run again. It also sometimes
loses the sound
and requires a restart (Win2K).

Is there any consesnsus on what the best combination of drivers/MMC for
these cards is. I
don't care about 3D gaming, I would just like good stable 2D performance and
the MMC/vid
capture to work well.

Agree, the web site is really confusing after last looking at it about 3
years ago since they stopped
supporting the AIW Rage Pro drivers.

CJK
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Go to the Customer Care website and click on your O/S.
Click on Radeon for the 8500DV display drivers.
Back out one page and click on All-In-Wonder then click on Radeon for MMC.
Read all of the notes and click on all of the links that apply to you.
I'd use the CatUninstaller utility prior to installing the new drivers.
Customer Care>utilities>various>Cat Main Utility
 
T Shadow said:
Go to the Customer Care website and click on your O/S.
Click on Radeon for the 8500DV display drivers.
Back out one page and click on All-In-Wonder then click on Radeon for MMC.
Read all of the notes and click on all of the links that apply to you.
I'd use the CatUninstaller utility prior to installing the new drivers.
Customer Care>utilities>various>Cat Main Utility
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Thanks, been there but the site is unclear as to whether the latest drivers
and
MMC are right for this card. Do the latest packages include support for the
older cards. Can I continue to use MMC7.7 as I only have the original
8500DV disk and this will not support DVD playing on later MMCs.

It seems that the latest and greatest isn't always the most reliable. Time
for
a bit of try it an see I guess :-)

CJK
 
CJK said:
Thanks, been there but the site is unclear as to whether the latest
drivers
and
MMC are right for this card. Do the latest packages include support for
the
older cards. Can I continue to use MMC7.7 as I only have the original
8500DV disk and this will not support DVD playing on later MMCs.
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Well I'm unsure what part of the following message right beside the MMC 9.08
download link is unclear: "NOTE: Supported on ALL-IN-WONDER 9000 Series and
newer. For older ALL-IN-WONDER products, please use MMC 9.02" - as the OP
has an 8500DV (not sure of your card), its clear that MMC 9.02 (or earlier)
is the only ATI solution (at the moment). Any drivers can be used as there
is no such restriction for them but with the 8500DV Cat 4.10 were out about
the same time as MMC 9.02 and I've found them OK with the 8500DV (although
Cat 5.4 has also worked ok).
It seems that the latest and greatest isn't always the most reliable.
Time
for
a bit of try it an see I guess :-)
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This is often the case with modems as well - the oldies were the goodies in
many regards. Try and find something like my modem here
http://www.itreviews.co.uk/h7-pace-56-solo-review.htm today and they simply
dont exist. There's been a general dumbing down for controllerless this and
softmodem that. Getting back to MMC versions, my understanding of the main
reason why newer MMC versions are inappropriate for use with pre 9xxx series
AIWs is because pre 9xxx series Radeon AIWs use the original Rage Theatre
chip (rather than the Theatre 200 chip) and this, in combination with newer
drivers, does NOT permit audio transmission via the PCI bus. Newer versions
of MMC on the other hand expect this technology to be in place and with
newer drivers and the higher end/newer AIWs it is.

Paul
 
CJK said:
Thanks, been there but the site is unclear as to whether the latest
drivers and
MMC are right for this card.
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The site seems clear to me. The Catalyst 5.5 driver release notes state
specifically that the Radeon 8500 AIW boards are supported, and the MMC
download site says specifically to use MMC 9.02.
Do the latest packages include support for
the
older cards. Can I continue to use MMC7.7 as I only have the original
8500DV disk and this will not support DVD playing on later MMCs.
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Either get a third party DVD player (any program that purports to play DVDs
should come with one, except Windows Media Player) or spend the ten bucks
for an 8.1 or later driver disk. The nvidia dvd player by the way works
very nicely with ATI boards.
 
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