Athlon 64 and Windows XP 64

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Uzytkownik "Ed said:
No, current A64 chips don't have hyperthreading and are still single
cores.
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In this case I am curies if HyperTransport gives any acceleration ?
Maybe I should have bought Intel instead of Athlon 64 :((
 
netx said:
Is Athloon 64 being seen as 2 CPU's on Windows Xp 64 ?
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An Athlon 64 is seen as only one (1) CPU because it is only one CPU.
The same story with an Opteron or an Athlon FX - one CPU.
 
netx said:
In this case I am curies if HyperTransport gives any acceleration ?
Maybe I should have bought Intel instead of Athlon 64 :((
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Hypertransport is the method of communicating between the CPU and the
system memory. The AMD64 has the memory controller built into the CPU,
so there is not a separate memory controller on the motherboard.

Hyperthreading does not necessarily give you any advantage.
Hyperthreading emulates a dual CPU. You still have only one CPU
simulating two CPUs.
 
In this case I am curies if HyperTransport gives any acceleration ?
Maybe I should have bought Intel instead of Athlon 64 :((
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Both companies have their strong and weak areas in chip design, if you
did your research you would have known which chip/platform is best for
your needs, so don't even start with that BS "I should have bought
Intel", no one here cares. ;p

Ed
 
Uzytkownik "Ed said:
Both companies have their strong and weak areas in chip design, if you
did your research you would have known which chip/platform is best for
your needs, so don't even start with that BS "I should have bought
Intel", no one here cares. ;p

Ed
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Thank Ed, You are right.
Intel Pentium with 64-bit extension (I mean Pentium4 series 600) is to
expensive for me and
still it is in behind about SLI hardware.
And I will be able to upgreade my system to 2-Core Athlon as it will be
released
on 939 socket (I have heard that something like this will be relased).

But I havent realised that HyperTransport is so different then
HyperThreading
as Pentium 4 HT is seen as two CPU's (if I have heard correct). Has Pentium
4 two cores in CPU ?

I read somewhere that it is a very little benifit of Hyper Transport on
Windows XP .
Also I wander if Windows XP-64 will make some benifit of HyperTransport.
Or it is only hardware extension with no software support ?

Mark
 
Ed said:
Both companies have their strong and weak areas in chip design, if you
did your research you would have known which chip/platform is best for
your needs, so don't even start with that BS "I should have bought
Intel", no one here cares. ;p
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I do.

Fanboy.

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The Intel excels at rendering movie files. The A64 at games, and I think at
compiling code.
And other stuff ... I don't remember.

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Dee said:
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Hyperthreading does not necessarily give you any advantage.
Hyperthreading emulates a dual CPU. You still have only one CPU
simulating two CPUs.
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And you need OS support to get the benefits, if you run win2k you will lose
performance if you enable HT. You need winxp or preferably win2k3 to use HT
 
Redpill said:
you got that right, sister. i just bought an HP laptop with an Athlon64.
screamin'
--rp
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Does this laptop which you have just bought come with an XP x64
Operating System? It's just that I bought an Athlon64 desktop tower, and the
operating system was still XP 32-bit, and I had to download a beta XP x64
system.
J.
 
Does this laptop which you have just bought come with an XP x64
Operating System?
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How should the vendor do that? Microsoft is not yet ready with XP64. I
have read some announcement stating that the final is scheduled to be
released end of April, 2005.
It's just that I bought an Athlon64 desktop tower, and the
operating system was still XP 32-bit, and I had to download a beta
XP x64 system.
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So what? Difference in performance is given in just a few applications.
And remember, that you can't use part of your additional hard- and
software any more, if the manufacturer refuses to make updated drivers.
It seems that your are somewhat vicitm of marketing:-)
The advantages of AMD64 isn't really the 64 bit. They are really fast
in 32bit apps, too, and they have that Cool'n'Quiet feature. These are
the reasons, why I bought an AMD64 system - and I'll stick with W2kSP4.

Greets,
Michael
 
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So what? Difference in performance is given in just a few applications.
And remember, that you can't use part of your additional hard- and
software any more, if the manufacturer refuses to make updated drivers.
It seems that your are somewhat vicitm of marketing:-)
The advantages of AMD64 isn't really the 64 bit. They are really fast
in 32bit apps, too, and they have that Cool'n'Quiet feature. These are
the reasons, why I bought an AMD64 system - and I'll stick with W2kSP4.
Greets,
Michael
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Thanks, Michael. I was merely curious. I am looking forward to trying
out the Linux you suggested next Monday. I had a go at trying out the beta
versions of Longhorn - interesting, but neither the 32-bit nor the 64-bit
version works properly with my set up, so I'm back to XP x64, though without
hardware updates.
J.
 
SUSE Linux 9.2 64 bit. windoz is supposed to come out with 64bit this
summer. i'm not interested, though

--redpill
 
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