Asus P4T533 => where can I buy Samsung 512MB RIMM4200 modules?

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Hello all,

I tried local stores to no avail.

I also tried PC-Memory-Upgrade.co.uk but they cannot get the required
Samsung modules anymore. And the people at www.memorysuppliers.com don't
send stuf over to Europe...

Where can I get two 512MB SAMSUNG RIMM4200 PC1066 32bit 232 pins RAMBUS
modules?

Has someone, using this Asus board, successfully (sp?) used other 512MB
modules?

Please help !

Regards,

Edwin
The Netherlands
 
---== EHH ==--- said:
Hello all,

I tried local stores to no avail.

I also tried PC-Memory-Upgrade.co.uk but they cannot get the required
Samsung modules anymore. And the people at www.memorysuppliers.com don't
send stuf over to Europe...

Where can I get two 512MB SAMSUNG RIMM4200 PC1066 32bit 232 pins RAMBUS
modules?

Has someone, using this Asus board, successfully (sp?) used other 512MB
modules?
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A few days ago I tried to help someone in Canada get a couple
of those for his P4T533. Everywhere we looked they were
back-ordered and very pricy - regardless of the brand.
Best price/delivery time combo we found was at www.muskkin.com -
no idea if they'll ship to the old world.

It was literally cheaper to get a new motherboard and make
the switch to ordinary PC3200 DDR.
 
A few days ago I tried to help someone in Canada get a couple
of those for his P4T533. Everywhere we looked they were
back-ordered and very pricy - regardless of the brand.
Best price/delivery time combo we found was at www.muskkin.com -
no idea if they'll ship to the old world.

It was literally cheaper to get a new motherboard and make
the switch to ordinary PC3200 DDR.
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Thanks Rob,

Are you sure you spelled the url correct? My IE responds with server not
found... when I point it at the direction youve given.

Any other sources?

Edwin
 
You could try Ebay. I bought some Kingston RDRAM from there. Kingston was
guarenteed for life so I had no worries, not sure what Samsungs return
policy is.
 
KC said:
You could try Ebay. I bought some Kingston RDRAM from there. Kingston was
guarenteed for life so I had no worries, not sure what Samsungs return
policy is.
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<snip>

Thanks. I tried ebay but to no avail. The modules I need are 232pin and
not the ussual 184 pins (which indeed can be found on ebay)
 
The best source is E-Bay. They show up there from time to time,
although they are not common. You might see if OCZ carries them. Also,
try www.runtimecc.com, they had them at one time. They are not easy to
find and they are expensive (at retail, they are about $350 EACH, but on
E-Bay, they usually go for less than that). I don't believe that anyone
other than Samsung has made RIMM4200 parts in any size.

Note, by the way, you might try a Samsung distributor. Samsung actually
lists 1 GIG RIMM4200 modules as being in active, mass production, and
they also list some faster speed grades that are not, as far as I know,
supported by ANY PC chipset. However, Rambus RDRAM memory is used in a
LOT of non-PC applications (including video games, video projectors,
cable boxes and HDTV television sets), but usually as chips directly on
system boards rather than as the types of modules used in PC motherboards.
 
The 512 meg 232-pin RIMM4200 modules DO show up on E-Bay. They are not
terribly common, at any given time there may be none, but if you are
patient you will find them. About 2 weeks ago, someone sold four of
them (2 gigs) and they went for about $700. Search for both RIMM4200
and RIMM 4200 (with and without a space); also, go to the Computer /
Desktop Components / Memory / RDRAM section and do a search for "232".
All of these searches should be for both title and text.
 
Barry Watzman said:
The 512 meg 232-pin RIMM4200 modules DO show up on E-Bay. They are not
terribly common, at any given time there may be none, but if you are
patient you will find them. About 2 weeks ago, someone sold four of
them (2 gigs) and they went for about $700. Search for both RIMM4200
and RIMM 4200 (with and without a space); also, go to the Computer /
Desktop Components / Memory / RDRAM section and do a search for "232".
All of these searches should be for both title and text.
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<snip>

Thanks !!!

I'll check ebay every day :-)

Edwin
 
Hello Barry,

Barry Watzman said:
The best source is E-Bay. They show up there from time to time,
although they are not common. You might see if OCZ carries them.
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Also,


I did look for OCZ modules too but they are as rare as Samsung.

try www.runtimecc.com, they had them at one time. They are not easy
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to


Thanks for the link. I see they sell Elpida (the 16 bit variety, I know)
but isn't Elpida listed in the Asus P4T533 manual as being compatible
too. (where is my manual?)

Elpida??? (Found my manual and indeed they are mentioned there but only
the RIMM3200 modules) I need RIMM4200 since my processors FSB is at 533

find and they are expensive (at retail, they are about $350 EACH, but on
E-Bay, they usually go for less than that). I don't believe that anyone
other than Samsung has made RIMM4200 parts in any size.
Click to expand...


OCZ has IIRC (not only 4200 but iirc 4800 too)

Note, by the way, you might try a Samsung distributor. Samsung actually
lists 1 GIG RIMM4200 modules as being in active, mass production, and
they also list some faster speed grades that are not, as far as I know,
supported by ANY PC chipset. However, Rambus RDRAM memory is used in a
LOT of non-PC applications (including video games, video projectors,
cable boxes and HDTV television sets), but usually as chips directly on
system boards rather than as the types of modules used in PC
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motherboards.


Thanks for that information. Didnt know that.

What do you think/know about Dane-Elec modules. I am told (!!) D-E uses
Samsung chips on their modules; but they (D-E) aren't listed in the Asus
manual.
Does that mean that they won't work reliable? Or, my guess, will they
work perfectly but they simply aren't tested by Asus.

On a D-E distributor site they mention:

""
Available modules for Asus mainboard P4T533
Dane Elec 512 MB 32bit NON-ECC RIMM PC4200
Partnr: RR533-32128
""

Expensive though with EURO 350

Edwin
 
Samsung is by far the largest maker of RDRAM chips, with more than half
of the market, but Toshiba, NEC, Infineon and Elpida and perhaps one or
two other firms have all made RDRAM (and Toshiba, Samsung and Elpida, at
the very least, are still in active production). OCZ's modules are made
by Samsung, but it is believed that they have "cheated" on a number of
occasions, for example they offered "PC1200" modules at a time when no
such parts officially existed (PC1200 RDRAM parts do exist now, and it's
called RIMM4800 when used in a 32-bit 232-pin module, but there are no
desktop PC chipsets that use it).

I would guess (and that's all that it is) that Danelect's parts are also
made by Samsung (the chips almost certainly, but I'm really talking
about the whole module). Except for the OCZ modules (which are actually
made by Samsung), I've never seen a non-Samsung 32-bit 232-pin RIMM
module, although I've seen lots of non-Samsung 16-bit 184 pin modules.

Samsung is making parts that have no apparent use in desktop PCs.
However, aside from the entertainment devices that I mentioned (video
games, video projectors, cable boxes and HDTV television sets), the Cray
supercomputers and the HP/Compaq/DEC "Alpha" servers also use RDRAM, as
well as some network systems by Intel, Vitesse and others (these are not
based on PC chipsets). SO-RIMM RDRAM modules are in volume production,
although there are no RDRAM laptops; they are used in "1U" rackmount
network systems where space is at a premium.

It's truly unfortunate that the illegal conspiracy to block the adoption
of RDRAM succeeded (some details of this are contained in the full 340+
page decision of the FTC trial of Rambus that was released a few weeks
ago; there's a lot more in the DOJ Grand Jury investigation of Micron,
Infineon and Hynix, but most of those records are still sealed.). RDRAM
is a far superior memory type to DDR, both faster and more stable, with
more headroom for future growth, and it need not be more expensive than
DDR in terms of actual manufacturing cost. It wasn't even about money
(the RDRAM royalty is only 1.5%), but rather ego, control and market
domination. The irony of it is that Rambus will probably win their
infringement cases, eventually, and their royalty on DDR is 3.5% --
which HIGHER than their royalty on RDRAM memory. So the whole industry
will be paying Rambus a higher royalty for an inferior form of memory.
 
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