Are these photographs?

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Vincent de Groot ([email protected]) wrote in [email protected]:
I made some pictures with my flatbed scanner:

http://www.photo-vinc.com/Galleries/abstract/index.htm

what is your opinion, are this photographs?
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Definitely! I like them, too.

I was especially interested since I've been experimenting using my
little HP 3300c flatbed scanner to "photograph" 3D objects and
developing some techniques for that - see thread "Scanning objects - any
tips?" I started on 24 November. I'd be interested in hearing (or
reading on your site!) what kind of techniques you're using - and which
scanner.

(I've been distracted from my flatbed scanner project a bit since I got
my film scanner, and I'm hgetting myself organized for scanner 20
years' worth of pictures - but the 3D scans will serve as illustrations
for my travel blog, as will some of the photographs.)
 
I was especially interested since I've been experimenting using my
little HP 3300c flatbed scanner to "photograph" 3D objects and
developing some techniques for that - see thread "Scanning objects - any
tips?" I started on 24 November. I'd be interested in hearing (or
reading on your site!) what kind of techniques you're using - and which
scanner.
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I just started writing the article I mention on my website
(http://www.photo-vinc.com). It will take some time to complete that
article but if you contact me via my website I will send you a mail when
it is online.
(I've been distracted from my flatbed scanner project a bit since I got
my film scanner, and I'm hgetting myself organized for scanner 20
years' worth of pictures - but the 3D scans will serve as illustrations
for my travel blog, as will some of the photographs.)
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When I today picked up 26 films from the shop I knew that I paid a
fortune on the films and development. It will take me months to scan
those in the film scanner. Some day I will buy a good DSRL. The Flatbed
scanner will be however busy with 3D objects.
 
Vincent de Groot ([email protected]) wrote in
I just started writing the article I mention on my website
(http://www.photo-vinc.com). It will take some time to complete that
article but if you contact me via my website I will send you a mail
when it is online.
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Thanks, will do.
When I today picked up 26 films from the shop I knew that I paid a
fortune on the films and development. It will take me months to scan
those in the film scanner. Some day I will buy a good DSRL.
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I don't like to think about how much I spent on films and development...
but a DSRL that can really compete with film (and they haven't existed
for long yet) costs a fortune, too. Plus extras like a portable drive to
download images while traveling. And I've been reading digital cameras
don't "behave" very well in temperatures above 30C (not exceptional with
the kinds of trips I make). Maybe I'm dithering ... but I'm not ready
for a DSRL yet.

Meanwhile I have my little camera phone which takes decent pictures when
my EOS is not at hand or happens to have the "wrong" film in it. :)
 
Excellent images - excellent work - but I would not define them as
"photographs", but rather "scans".

Hopefully you used a protective plastic sheet on top of the glass,
especially for the grapefruit and Smoked sprats :-) I use sheets purchased
from Aztek - I don't recall what they're called.

There's also a book available with ideas and methods for scanning objects
(though you seem to have mastered it!) - Start With a Scan, by Janet Ashford
and John Odam.

Maris
 
Surfer! ([email protected]) wrote in view.co.uk:
I'm not sure I'd call them photographs - to me photos come from
cameras - but I would call them art!
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It took me a while to realize this (doing experiments in photographing
3D-objects with my scanner), but: As far as I'm concerned, a scanner
*is* a camera - just a special sort of digital camera; with optics, and
a sensor, only in a different configuration than in a "photo" camera,
and with some bits *added* like a built-in light source and mechanics to
move the light source along with the sensor.

It may be a slight simplification, but essentially a scanner is a camera
taking a series of pictures and putting them together. But some types of
photo cameras do that as well (think of panorama cameras). There's no
clear demarcation line between what is a "photo camera" and what is a
"scanner" - they're just different types of camera, created for
different types of application (with a possible overlap :)).

It's not for nothing that camera makers frequently are also scanner
makers. Agfa (now deceased), Canon, Konika-Minolta, Nikon... Clearly
quite a bit of the technology translates from one type of machine to the
other, such as optics, light paths, (auto)focus...
 
They most certainly are photographs.
I have been "photographing" Jewellery this way for many years with great
results, just like yours.
 
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