Are there benefits for and advanced user to using Placeholders?

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Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using PowerPoint
as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to
placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question should we?

Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this or
pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to
this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated
 
Anthony

Placeholders follow the 'slide master' (and the content inside them appears
in the outline).

Manually added text boxes do not follow the slide master. (the content does
not appear in the outline).

Using the slide master for format things saves a lot of time

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This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about objects
(charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about text?
 
Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using PowerPoint
as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to
placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question should we?

Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this or
pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to
this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated
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Adding pictures as objects or into placeholders has its drawbacks. Otherwise,
it doesn't seem to make a great deal of difference (ie, for charts and so on).

If they're in placeholders, you can somewhat control the
size/position/formatting of all of them at once by changing the master.

Otherwise, I can't think of any big "vantages", ad- or dis- ;-)

Someone will surely be along shortly to slap some sense into me though.
 
Hello,

I guess, that for using AUTOSHAPES and TEXTBOXES is only reasonable
way to COPY body placeholder (for example from new plain slide) and
then change it (draw - change autoshape + add color line), because it
has master bullet style.

I do not recommend useing placeholders at all, becouse they
automaticaly change your object.

Jan
 
Placeholders are good because it allows you to change the slide designs and
conform to the specifications of the new slide designs like size, position,
font spec, color schemes, etc. If the text is not in placeholder, it does
not follow most of the specs laid in the slide design. Exception being the
likes of color schemes that you can still use in textboxes.

Typically, your slide designs change in new presentations and when you
copy-paste slides from older presentations, you want those slides to conform
to the slide designs of your new presentation. This is where having your
texts and objects in placeholders help as the specifications are inherited
automatically.

If your presentation never needs a slide design change ever or you don't
ever copy-paste slides to create new presentations with a slide design
different from your other presentations, then you can ignore placeholders.

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Hi, sorry for the delay (Easter break etc).

Our team has consistently used placeholders for all objects - graphs,
pictures, tables, text, visio objects etc. However two new members have
joined and have never used them and are challenging the prevailing wisdom, to
which we do not have a convincing answer as to why we should use them.

Thanks for your help

Anthony

Echo S said:
This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about objects
(charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about text?

--
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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
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Anthony Kennedy said:
Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using
PowerPoint
as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to
placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question should we?

Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this or
pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to
this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated
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Well, I would absolutely use them for text, but I wouldn't use them for
tables and graphs and pictures and other such objects.

Basically, when you reapply a slide layout, the stuff in the placeholder
gets "reformatted" back to match the slide layout. I find that usually I've
positioned and sized tables/graphs/pix/etc. where I want them, and I don't
usually want them to move if I reapply the slide layout. (The
table/graph/pix/etc. placeholders derive their size and position from the
main text placeholder on the slide master.) But I *do* usually want the text
to have its default formatting reapplied when I apply/reapply a slide
layout.

That's why I usually use the "title only" layout instead of, say, the "title
and chart" layout if I'm making a chart slide.

So I kinda think you're both right. :-) However, there is something to be
said for consistency throughout a production shop, regardless of which way
you choose to go.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Anthony Kennedy said:
Hi, sorry for the delay (Easter break etc).

Our team has consistently used placeholders for all objects - graphs,
pictures, tables, text, visio objects etc. However two new members have
joined and have never used them and are challenging the prevailing wisdom,
to
which we do not have a convincing answer as to why we should use them.

Thanks for your help

Anthony

Echo S said:
This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about objects
(charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about
text?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Anthony Kennedy said:
Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using
PowerPoint
as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to
placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question should
we?

Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this or
pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer
to
this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated
Click to expand...
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Thanks so much for your feedback, I do appreciate it and it has helped.

Anthony

Echo S said:
Well, I would absolutely use them for text, but I wouldn't use them for
tables and graphs and pictures and other such objects.

Basically, when you reapply a slide layout, the stuff in the placeholder
gets "reformatted" back to match the slide layout. I find that usually I've
positioned and sized tables/graphs/pix/etc. where I want them, and I don't
usually want them to move if I reapply the slide layout. (The
table/graph/pix/etc. placeholders derive their size and position from the
main text placeholder on the slide master.) But I *do* usually want the text
to have its default formatting reapplied when I apply/reapply a slide
layout.

That's why I usually use the "title only" layout instead of, say, the "title
and chart" layout if I'm making a chart slide.

So I kinda think you're both right. :-) However, there is something to be
said for consistency throughout a production shop, regardless of which way
you choose to go.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Anthony Kennedy said:
Hi, sorry for the delay (Easter break etc).

Our team has consistently used placeholders for all objects - graphs,
pictures, tables, text, visio objects etc. However two new members have
joined and have never used them and are challenging the prevailing wisdom,
to
which we do not have a convincing answer as to why we should use them.

Thanks for your help

Anthony

Echo S said:
This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about objects
(charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about
text?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


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Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using
PowerPoint
as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to
placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question should
we?

Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this or
pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer
to
this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated
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You're welcome, and I'm glad to hear it.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Anthony Kennedy said:
Thanks so much for your feedback, I do appreciate it and it has helped.

Anthony

Echo S said:
Well, I would absolutely use them for text, but I wouldn't use them for
tables and graphs and pictures and other such objects.

Basically, when you reapply a slide layout, the stuff in the placeholder
gets "reformatted" back to match the slide layout. I find that usually
I've
positioned and sized tables/graphs/pix/etc. where I want them, and I
don't
usually want them to move if I reapply the slide layout. (The
table/graph/pix/etc. placeholders derive their size and position from the
main text placeholder on the slide master.) But I *do* usually want the
text
to have its default formatting reapplied when I apply/reapply a slide
layout.

That's why I usually use the "title only" layout instead of, say, the
"title
and chart" layout if I'm making a chart slide.

So I kinda think you're both right. :-) However, there is something to be
said for consistency throughout a production shop, regardless of which
way
you choose to go.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Anthony Kennedy said:
Hi, sorry for the delay (Easter break etc).

Our team has consistently used placeholders for all objects - graphs,
pictures, tables, text, visio objects etc. However two new members
have
joined and have never used them and are challenging the prevailing
wisdom,
to
which we do not have a convincing answer as to why we should use them.

Thanks for your help

Anthony

:

This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about
objects
(charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about
text?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


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Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using
PowerPoint
as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to
placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question
should
we?

Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this
or
pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an
answer
to
this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated
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