Are 2.5 inch ata-6 drives backward compatible?

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My hard drive just died and I'm buying a new one but I noticed that
newegg only has 2.5 inch drives that are serial, or ata-6 or ata-7 and
I don't know if my current dell inspiron 8500 can handle an ata-6
drive. will these work does anyone know even if my system can only
handle ata-5 and below?
thanks.
 
Greezer said:
My hard drive just died and I'm buying a new one but I noticed that
newegg only has 2.5 inch drives that are serial, or ata-6 or ata-7 and
I don't know if my current dell inspiron 8500 can handle an ata-6
drive. will these work
Yes.

does anyone know even if my system can only handle ata-5 and below?

Doesnt happen.
 
Greezerwrote
My hard drive just died and I'm buying a new one but I noticed tha
newegg only has 2.5 inch drives that are serial, or ata-6 or ata- an
I don't know if my current dell inspiron 8500 can handle an ata-
drive. will these work does anyone know even if my system can onl
handle ata-5 and below
thanks

No, but I didn't even know anyone made a SATA/ Serial drive for
notebook. Are you sure about that? It would seem silly because th
small form factor really kills performance anyway. I'm not aware o
any IDE notebook drive that can saturate the bus. Perhaps I'm wrong
But, after all, the normal processor in a notebook is only a 1.6ghz.
What can the machine need? Intel has desktops at 3000 and the debat
about overall performance from a SATA in that platform, is mixed a
best

Go to http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.hmx? they have great deals o
notebook hard drives. If you don't know how to format it, let the
do it

Hope you have your system disks

Best of luc
 
dannysdailys said:
No, but I didn't even know anyone made a SATA/ Serial drive for a
notebook.

Given your general cluelessness over about anything that is sure one big surprise.

Not.
Are you sure about that?

Google doesn't work for you, Dannys?
It would seem silly because the small form factor really kills performance
anyway.

As if SATA is only about performance.

Ever heard of the SAVVIO 10k.1 , Dannys?
http://www.seagate.com/content/newsinfo/images/downloads/Seagate_Savvio_10K-1.jpg
It can do 60MB/s. It's a 2.5".

And no Dannys, better performance usually comes with smaller platters.
15k rpm scsi have distinctly smaller platters, nearing 2.5 ".
http://www.seagate.com/content/newsinfo/images/downloads/Seagate_Cheetah_15K-4.jpg
I'm not aware of any IDE notebook drive that can saturate the bus.

Oh good. It would be the first drive *EVER* to do that.
Perhaps I'm wrong.

No perhaps about it. You will always be clueless.
But, after all, the normal processor in a notebook is only a 1.6ghz.
What can the machine need?

What about the best it can get.
Intel has desktops at 3000 and the debate about overall performance
from a SATA in that platform, is mixed at best.

There is nothing wrong with the overall performance of SATA.
Go to http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.hmx? they have great deals on
notebook hard drives.

And you know what, they have several SATA notebook drives.
 
Folkert Rienstrawrote
dannysdailys said:
Greezer wrote
My hard drive just died and I'm buying a new one but I noticed tha
newegg only has 2.5 inch drives that are serial, or ata-6 or ata- an
I don't know if my current dell inspiron 8500 can handle an ata-
drive. will these work does anyone know even if my system can onl
handle ata-5 and below
thanks

No, but I didn't even know anyone made a SATA/ Serial drive for
notebook
Given your general cluelessness over about anything that is sure on
big surprise

Not
Are you sure about that
Google doesn't work for you, Dannys
It would seem silly because the small form factor really kill performanc
anyway
As if SATA is only about performance

Ever heard of the SAVVIO 10k.1 , Dannys?
http://www.seagate.com/content/newsinfo/images/downloads/Seagate_Savvio_10K-1.jp
It can do 60MB/s. It's a 2.5"

And no Dannys, better performance usually comes with smalle
platters
15k rpm scsi have distinctly smaller platters, nearing 2.5 "
http://www.seagate.com/content/newsinfo/images/downloads/Seagate_Cheetah_15K-4.jp
I'm not aware of any IDE notebook drive that can saturate the bus
Oh good. It would be the first drive *EVER* to do that
Perhaps I'm wrong
No perhaps about it. You will always be clueless
But, after all, the normal processor in a notebook is only 1.6ghz

What can the machine need
What about the best it can get
Intel has desktops at 3000 and the debate about overall performanc
from a SATA in that platform, is mixed at best
There is nothing wrong with the overall performance of SATA
Go to http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.hmx? they have great deal o
notebook hard drives
And you know what, they have several SATA notebook drives
If you don't know how to format it, let them do it

Hope you have your system disks

Best of luck[/quote:5a1bccaa77

Who are you snert? What hole did you come out of

Yes, you are correct, there are SATA notebook drives, how silly of me
It never occurred to me because a 2 1/2 inch drive is so slow anyway
I always figured, what would be the point

The larger the capacity drive, the denser the tracks. The denser th
tracks, the more data is on each track. The more data on each track
the more data can be read between track changes per RPM. The large
the disk physical size, the more data on each outside track. And
the more data on each outside track, the fewer times the actuator ha
to move. The fewer times the actuator has to move, the faster th
throughput. That's why hard drives lose their efficiency once the
are half filled and higher

Welcome to Hard Drive 101 snert

With the small diameter of a notebook drive, it's not even a contest.
This is also why microdrives have such terrible performance

SATA on a notebook is a waste. Perhaps you must be one of the ver
few that really believes a notebook can be a desktop replacement?
Wow, don't know much, do you?.

This is simple physics. If you don't know, or worse, accept that
then maybe you should go home and play with your lego's

Since this concept is so simple to understand, even you must get it s
your attacks on me make you feel like a man. I highly doubt you'
ever talk to me in person that way. So, I won't respond to anymor
of your blather..

Get a life..
 
Previously Greezer said:
My hard drive just died and I'm buying a new one but I noticed that
newegg only has 2.5 inch drives that are serial, or ata-6 or ata-7 and
I don't know if my current dell inspiron 8500 can handle an ata-6
drive. will these work does anyone know even if my system can only
handle ata-5 and below?

In all likelyhood with the same drive size: Yes. If you get
a larger than original drive, check first whether the BIOS
can handle it.

Arno
 
No, but I didn't even know anyone made a SATA/ Serial drive for a
notebook. Are you sure about that? It would seem silly because the
small form factor really kills performance anyway. I'm not aware of
any IDE notebook drive that can saturate the bus.

Bus saturation is completely irrelevant, the big
advantage with sata is the simpler cabling, stupid.
Perhaps I'm wrong.

No perhaps about it, you always are.
But, after all, the normal processor in a notebook is only a 1.6ghz.
What can the machine need? Intel has desktops at 3000 and the debate
about overall performance from a SATA in that platform, is mixed at best.

Pity about the simpler cabling.
Go to http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.hmx? they have great deals
on notebook hard drives. If you don't know how to format it, let them do
it.
 
dannysdailys said:
I highly doubt you'd ever talk to me in person that way.

Why not? You think he'd take pity on you if he saw your misshapen
retard head?

Why don't you run away, little retard, and come back when you've
obtained a clue on how to think (and how to quote).
 
dannysdailys said:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
dannysdailys said:
Greezer wrote:
My hard drive just died and I'm buying a new one but I noticed that
newegg only has 2.5 inch drives that are serial, or ata-6 or ata-7 and
I don't know if my current dell inspiron 8500 can handle an ata-6
drive. will these work does anyone know even if my system can only
handle ata-5 and below?
thanks.

No, but I didn't even know anyone made a SATA/ Serial drive for a notebook.
Given your general cluelessness over about anything that is sure one
big surprise.

Not.
Are you sure about that?
Google doesn't work for you, Dannys?
It would seem silly because the small form factor really kills performance
anyway.
As if SATA is only about performance.

Ever heard of the SAVVIO 10k.1 , Dannys?
http://www.seagate.com/content/newsinfo/images/downloads/Seagate_Savvio_10K-1.jpg
It can do 60MB/s. It's a 2.5".

And no Dannys, better performance usually comes with smaller platters.
15k rpm scsi have distinctly smaller platters, nearing 2.5 ".
http://www.seagate.com/content/newsinfo/images/downloads/Seagate_Cheetah_15K-4.jpg
I'm not aware of any IDE notebook drive that can saturate the bus.
Oh good. It would be the first drive *EVER* to do that.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
No perhaps about it. You will always be clueless.
But, after all, the normal processor in a notebook is only a 1.6ghz.

What can the machine need?
What about the best it can get.
Intel has desktops at 3000 and the debate about overall performance
from a SATA in that platform, is mixed at best.
There is nothing wrong with the overall performance of SATA.
Go to http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.hmx? they have great deals on
notebook hard drives.
And you know what, they have several SATA notebook drives.
If you don't know how to format it, let them do it.

Hope you have your system disks.

Best of luck[/quote:5a1bccaa77]

Who are you snert? What hole did you come out of?

That politeness and helpfulness of yours is just a front, isn't it, Dannys.
Yes, you are correct, there are SATA notebook drives,
how silly of me.

No Dannys, sillyness is a temporary condition, you are terminally braindead.
It never occurred to me because a 2 1/2 inch drive is so slow anyway.

No Dannys, pay attention. A 2.5" drive isn't slow as was explained above.
They are among the fastest drives that you can get, nearing 100MB/s
in current Cheetahs. Notebook drives are slow compared to desktop dri-
ves, 2.5 " SCSI drives are not. It has nothing to do with physical size.
I always figured, what would be the point.

Yeah, figuring isn't one of your strong points, isn't it Dannys.
Or some may say that that is exactly what you ever do, depending
on what meaning they give to that word.
The larger the capacity drive, the denser the tracks. The denser the
tracks, the more data is on each track. The more data on each track,
the more data can be read between track changes per RPM. The larger
the disk physical size, the more data on each outside track. And, the
more data on each outside track, the fewer times the actuator has to move.
The fewer times the actuator has to move, the faster the throughput.
That's why hard drives lose their efficiency once they are half filled
and higher.

Wrong Dannys, the seektimes do not linearly increase with head
traveling distance and latency is a fixed part of access time too.
Do you even have even an inkling of how harddrives work?
Welcome to Hard Drive 101 snert.

You have it all 'figured' out, haven't you, Dannys.

Thanks for explaining to us why the 15k drive with the 2.5" platters
is the faster drive, Dannys. They are the pushing upto 100MB/s
where the standard sized ones (3.5") only do around 70MB/s.
Obviously there is a lot more to it than you make it out to be.

Thanks for debunking your own stupid troll.
With the small diameter of a notebook drive, it's not even a contest.

It's the same size as the 15k rpm ones, you brainless moron. It's
not the size that makes them slow, it's the low RPM and the relatively
weightier actuator/head assemblies with heigher than normal flying height
that won't make them crashing as soon as you kick the laptop around.
Combine that with a need for low powerconsumption and only 5Volts
leading to less agressive seeking and all of that makes them slow.
This is also why microdrives have such terrible performance.

Because they have to be rugged. Bleeding edge and ruggedness don't
go well together. The bleeding edge goes into getting it to work re-
liably at all in the first place and speed is traded in because of that.
Plus these things have to live on batteries and what's the point of
them being small if they are being dwarfed by the batterypack.
SATA on a notebook is a waste.

Just as big a waste as many IDE notebook drive with higher
than UDMA-2, yet they are all higher than UDMA-2.
Why aren't you complaining, Dannys.

Sata on a notebook allows for tinier chips with less power con-
sumption. It also allows external connections at no extra cost.
You don't need drive connector convertor kits as you do with Pata.
It's a win-win-win situation in notebooks.
Perhaps you must be one of the very few that really
believes a notebook can be a desktop replacement?

They are replacing desktops in an alarming pace, you moron.
Wow, don't know much, do you?..

You don't go out much, do you, Dannys. Is your rollator on the blink?
This is simple physics. If you don't know, or worse, accept that,
then maybe you should go home and play with your lego's.

It's you who are the one not accepting, Dannys. The two examples
I gave above and that you are ignoring prove you wrong and that's
exactly the reason why you are ignoring them, isn't it, Dannys.
Since this concept is so simple to understand,

By everyone but yourself.
even you must get it so your attacks on me make you feel like a man.

Someone has to show you a mirror, Dannys. And even someone as severely
limited as yourself must have noticed that I'm not the only one to do so.
I highly doubt you'd ever talk to me in person that way.

Put me in a crowd and I don't even have to. They will. In abundance.
So, I won't respond to anymore of your blather...

That's your choice, Dannys Ostrich. Let's hope you still remember that
next time we will make a fool out of you, but with your brain capacity ....
I don't have high hopes.
Get a life...

Smash the mirror, Dannys.
 
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