Apple OS backup automatic - so why not Vista?

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Why, when I look at the screen shots on Vista from Paul Thurrot, has Vista
changed only in places. I hate control panel, its so 1995, but then I saw
what Apple are doing to make backup easier; they did the R&D and no body
backs up so they do it in the background.

So why doesn't Vista?

Christ!
 
Samuel said:
Why, when I look at the screen shots on Vista from Paul Thurrot, has Vista
changed only in places. I hate control panel, its so 1995, but then I saw
what Apple are doing to make backup easier; they did the R&D and no body
backs up so they do it in the background.

So why doesn't Vista?
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erm... it does have automatic backup. You can set up an automatic backup
with a schedule of your choice and it will automatically add files to the
backup you have created since the previous backup.
Oh and Vista is very very different and has not just changed in a few
places. It has changed alot. Perhaps you should try it for yourself and
not rely on screenshots. A screenshot will tell you nothing :-)
 
Samuel was referring to the fact that Apple's OS backs up regardless of
whether or not you configure it to do so, which is smart. I would venture to
say that 95%+ of computer users do not even know about Windows' backup
utility. It is smart because it takes into account users' habits and builds a
transparent, helpful process around it.

Windows, and previously DOS, has long been known to be the
"middle-of-the-road" for customization. Not as geeky as Xnix, and not as
"no-brainer" as a Mac. However, it is very clear to me that the "no-brainer"
operating system is much more of a benifit than being able to tweak your
registry or program viruses for the masses.

The Apple OS is superior to anything else on the market, and continues to
grow in leaps and bounds beyond its competitors.

The next few years will be very interesting in regards to shift in personal
and enterprise computer OS market share.

/e
 
Samuel was referring to the fact that Apple's OS backs up regardless of
whether or not you configure it to do so, which is smart. I would venture to
say that 95%+ of computer users do not even know about Windows' backup
utility. It is smart because it takes into account users' habits and builds a
transparent, helpful process around it.

Windows, and previously DOS, has long been known to be the
"middle-of-the-road" for customization. Not as geeky as Xnix, and not as
"no-brainer" as a Mac. However, it is very clear to me that the "no-brainer"
operating system is much more of a benifit than being able to tweak your
registry or program viruses for the masses.

The Apple OS is superior to anything else on the market, and continues to
grow in leaps and bounds beyond its competitors.

The next few years will be very interesting in regards to shift in personal
and enterprise computer OS market share.

/e
 
Samuel said:
Why, when I look at the screen shots on Vista from Paul Thurrot, has Vista
changed only in places. I hate control panel, its so 1995, but then I saw
what Apple are doing to make backup easier; they did the R&D and no body
backs up so they do it in the background.

So why doesn't Vista?
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I'd recommend trying Vista out yourself.

Backup is a whole new program and unlike Apple it doesn't require a separate
hard drive, you can tell it it to backup anywhere. And the file system is
backed up by default with System Restore (Volume Shadow Copy) which is far
far beyond anything Apple have done.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

*Remove 'nospam.' to reply by e-mail*
 
Samuel said:
Why, when I look at the screen shots on Vista from Paul Thurrot, has Vista
changed only in places. I hate control panel, its so 1995,
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OS X has a Control Panel, it's just called System Preferences. It does
*exactly* the same things, however.

Mike
 
evolvetek said:
Samuel was referring to the fact that Apple's OS backs up regardless of
whether or not you configure it to do so, which is smart. I would venture
to
say that 95%+ of computer users do not even know about Windows' backup
utility. It is smart because it takes into account users' habits and
builds a
transparent, helpful process around it.

Windows, and previously DOS, has long been known to be the
"middle-of-the-road" for customization. Not as geeky as Xnix, and not as
"no-brainer" as a Mac. However, it is very clear to me that the
"no-brainer"
operating system is much more of a benifit than being able to tweak your
registry or program viruses for the masses.

The Apple OS is superior to anything else on the market, and continues to
grow in leaps and bounds beyond its competitors.

The next few years will be very interesting in regards to shift in
personal
and enterprise computer OS market share.
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Well personally I would hate a backup service that happened automatically
without my setting it. It would take up too much space when I do not do
backups, totally pointless to me. Far better to make it a choice for the
user rather than making the assumption they wish to backup.
 
The big funny is, just like Spotlight and Front Row, the new apple backup is
something they've copied from MS that MS has had for years now. Go figger
eh?
 
Peter M said:
The big funny is, just like Spotlight and Front Row, the new apple backup
is something they've copied from MS that MS has had for years now. Go
figger eh?
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They have all been copying each other for years - Windows, Mac, Linux.
Mac-addicts claim that Vista stole the sidebar idea from the Mac dashboard
but they forget that windows 98 had a sidebar active desktop all those many
moons ago.
 
Actually I am referring to background auto-backup, I know of no one that
would not appreciate this, in fact its only in a crisis that anyone
appreciates something like that.

As for the second HDD, well that is so that if the first HDD fails the
second can instantly take over, with no data loss - how would you retrieve
'backed-up' data from a physically broken drive?

I hope Microsoft copy this feature, obviously they can't because that would
mean making their own PC's and thus ensuring PC's have 2 HDD, but know in PC
users they will utilize the second HDD for extra space, its the PC users
nature.

I sincerely hope that my wait and lock-in investment in Vista is not for
nothing, I want to have everything Santa promissed me.

Samuel, UK
 
Samuel said:
Actually I am referring to background auto-backup, I know of no one that
would not appreciate this, in fact its only in a crisis that anyone
appreciates something like that.

As for the second HDD, well that is so that if the first HDD fails the
second can instantly take over, with no data loss - how would you retrieve
'backed-up' data from a physically broken drive?

I hope Microsoft copy this feature, obviously they can't because that
would
mean making their own PC's and thus ensuring PC's have 2 HDD, but know in
PC
users they will utilize the second HDD for extra space, its the PC users
nature.

I sincerely hope that my wait and lock-in investment in Vista is not for
nothing, I want to have everything Santa promissed me.
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Personally I would not want a backup service to be automatic. I don't use
backups as I am constantly beta testing different software, so a backup
would be pointless as I don't ever keep anything and would be a waste of
system resources.
The Vista MS way is better because it leaves the choice to the user. They
can set it for automatic backups if they want.
 
Samuel said:
Actually I am referring to background auto-backup, I know of no one that
would not appreciate this, in fact its only in a crisis that anyone
appreciates something like that.

As for the second HDD, well that is so that if the first HDD fails the
second can instantly take over, with no data loss - how would you retrieve
'backed-up' data from a physically broken drive?

I hope Microsoft copy this feature, obviously they can't because that
would
mean making their own PC's and thus ensuring PC's have 2 HDD, but know in
PC
users they will utilize the second HDD for extra space, its the PC users
nature.

I sincerely hope that my wait and lock-in investment in Vista is not for
nothing, I want to have everything Santa promissed me.

Samuel, UK
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I wouldn't want the backup process to be automatic. For one thing I prefer
imaging.
 
If you want a backup system as you are describing, it already exists. It
is called RAID 1. The best part is, it is not OS dependent; just a
simple RAID 1 card to connect both hard drives to.

Another advantage would be the lack of a software/service sitting in the
background eating up precious resources.

If space is what the user wants, typically just change the RAID
configuration on the card to 0 (do this only on initial setup, its a
pain to switch afterwords). That would stripe the data back and forth
between the two (or more drives) giving a larger storage capacity for
the user.

-Luke
 
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