AOL and network problem

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I have set up a crossover cable home network connecting my dual core Pentium
Hewlett-Packard machine (host) to my older Athlon Packard-Bell (client).
Both machines currently run XP Home, I may re-install XP Pro on the client.
The connection works perfectly for file and printer sharing. However,
absolutely nothing whatsoever I have tried has enabled Internet access from
the client.

I have tried autoconfigured and fixed TCP/IP addresses and DSLs, assorted
firewall settings and exclusions, even temporarily disabling both firewalls.
I have obeyed to the letter assorted procedures from the Internet - some of
which are considerably contradictory. So far from working, one of these
procedures actually disabled my network until I was able to hunt down and
destroy its consequences! Some of the things I have tried are beyond the
scope of my knowledge, so I often haven't really known what I was doing.
Some procedures on the Net refuse even to admit the existence of crossover
cable connection rather than by means of a hub. I have no intention of
bringing any further machines into the network, so I would rather not go to
the expense of a hub. I have no need for wireless.

I think I read somewhere that it was necessary to configure AOL specifically
to function on a client machine, but I can't find anything to confirm this in
the AOL help or anywhere else.

I use AOL VR on the host machine and AOL 9.0 on the client and my browser is
Opera. I do not and would never use Microsoft's appalling Internet Explorer
and I try to keep its infestation as minimal as possible. If XP networking
somehow cannot work without the Gates abomination, then that surely needs to
be publicised and corrected.

It's all fairly crucial, as shared Internet access was my main reason for
setting up a network in the first place. If it helps, my latest IPCONFIG
results for both machines are set out below. Am I right in wondering why my
Internet connection on the host announces itself as an Ethernet connection?
Should Dhcp be enabled on my genuine Internet connection? Can anyone help?
My apologies for the extreme length of this posting, but I thought I should
give anyone who might be able to help as much - and hopefully relevant -
information as possible.

HEWLETT-PACKARD (host)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : HP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . .:
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x
Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-16-EC-3D-0E-08
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN
Modem
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-11-F5-3F-4A-D9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . : 169.254.108.143
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . :

PACKARD-BELL (CLIENT)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Packard
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-4A-2D-79
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

My apologies for the length of this posting, but I thought I should give
anyone who might be able to helo as much - and hopefully relevant -
information as possible.
 
electravibe said:
I have set up a crossover cable home network connecting my dual core Pentium
Hewlett-Packard machine (host) to my older Athlon Packard-Bell (client).
Both machines currently run XP Home, I may re-install XP Pro on the client.
The connection works perfectly for file and printer sharing. However,
absolutely nothing whatsoever I have tried has enabled Internet access from
the client.

I have tried autoconfigured and fixed TCP/IP addresses and DSLs, assorted
firewall settings and exclusions, even temporarily disabling both firewalls.
I have obeyed to the letter assorted procedures from the Internet - some of
which are considerably contradictory. So far from working, one of these
procedures actually disabled my network until I was able to hunt down and
destroy its consequences! Some of the things I have tried are beyond the
scope of my knowledge, so I often haven't really known what I was doing.
Some procedures on the Net refuse even to admit the existence of crossover
cable connection rather than by means of a hub. I have no intention of
bringing any further machines into the network, so I would rather not go to
the expense of a hub. I have no need for wireless.

I think I read somewhere that it was necessary to configure AOL specifically
to function on a client machine, but I can't find anything to confirm this in
the AOL help or anywhere else.

I use AOL VR on the host machine and AOL 9.0 on the client and my browser is
Opera. I do not and would never use Microsoft's appalling Internet Explorer
and I try to keep its infestation as minimal as possible. If XP networking
somehow cannot work without the Gates abomination, then that surely needs to
be publicised and corrected.

It's all fairly crucial, as shared Internet access was my main reason for
setting up a network in the first place. If it helps, my latest IPCONFIG
results for both machines are set out below. Am I right in wondering why my
Internet connection on the host announces itself as an Ethernet connection?
Should Dhcp be enabled on my genuine Internet connection? Can anyone help?
My apologies for the extreme length of this posting, but I thought I should
give anyone who might be able to help as much - and hopefully relevant -
information as possible.

HEWLETT-PACKARD (host)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : HP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . .:
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x
Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-16-EC-3D-0E-08
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN
Modem
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-11-F5-3F-4A-D9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . : 169.254.108.143
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . :

PACKARD-BELL (CLIENT)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Packard
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-4A-2D-79
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

My apologies for the length of this posting, but I thought I should give
anyone who might be able to helo as much - and hopefully relevant -
information as possible.
Click to expand...


Here are some steps to perform and hopefully you will get Internet Connection
sharing up and running:
How to set up a ICS:
Hardware:
- Tow Computers
- The Host have Two NICs
- Cross-Over cable (if you will not use a hub with 10base-T/100base-T,
cat5, patch cable)
- Client have a NIC installed and all TCP/IP, DNS configured to get the
IP Auto.
- Enabling the ICS on both the Host and the Client

1 - How to set the Host:
You need to set the Host first as the Host will play the Distributor Role in
the ICS so you need to
set up correctly to allow ICS;

Click Start >> Control Panel >> Network and internet connections >> Network
Connections then Right click My network paces
and select Properties.
Here you should see or have two internet connection one for your Internet
connection and one for your local Area Network (LAN).
Right click Internet Connection and select properties.
On the Properties Window click on Advanced Tab and check these boxes:
Internet Connection Sharing:
[ ] Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
Connection
[ ] Allow other Network users to control or Disable the hared Internet
Connection.
Click [OK] to Confirm your settings and close the Internet connection Window.

2 - Setting up the Client:
The same Go to the Control panel and Network Connections >> here at least
you should have one Internet connection Icon or Service
Installed, if not then your NIC or hardware not installed and you need to
install it configure it.
On the Local Area Network Right click and select properties.
Under general tab Highlight the Internet Protocol and click properties.

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 9If you don't have those then install
them)
Make sure the Machine getting an Automatic IP, DNS then click Advanced and
make sure also that there is not an old settings and all the DNS, WINS IP
filtering are all empty and there are no entries.
Troubleshooting Internet Connection Sharing in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308006
"Internet Connection Sharing with Windows XP by Sharon Crawford"
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/crawford_02july01.mspx
Service redirection does not apply to Internet Connection Firewall
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297942
Description of the Windows Firewall feature in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/843090

Troubleshooting Windows Firewall in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/support/wftshoot.mspx

Here is a complete step-by-step on how to set up ICS:
http://www.chicagotech.net/icssetup.htm
Troubleshooting step by step:
http://howtonetworking.com/Troubleshooting/notaccessibale0.htm

HTH.
Let us know your progress.
Regards,
nass
 
electravibe said:
I have set up a crossover cable home network connecting my dual core Pentium
Hewlett-Packard machine (host) to my older Athlon Packard-Bell (client).
Both machines currently run XP Home, I may re-install XP Pro on the client.
The connection works perfectly for file and printer sharing. However,
absolutely nothing whatsoever I have tried has enabled Internet access from
the client.

I have tried autoconfigured and fixed TCP/IP addresses and DSLs, assorted
firewall settings and exclusions, even temporarily disabling both firewalls.
I have obeyed to the letter assorted procedures from the Internet - some of
which are considerably contradictory. So far from working, one of these
procedures actually disabled my network until I was able to hunt down and
destroy its consequences! Some of the things I have tried are beyond the
scope of my knowledge, so I often haven't really known what I was doing.
Some procedures on the Net refuse even to admit the existence of crossover
cable connection rather than by means of a hub. I have no intention of
bringing any further machines into the network, so I would rather not go to
the expense of a hub. I have no need for wireless.

I think I read somewhere that it was necessary to configure AOL specifically
to function on a client machine, but I can't find anything to confirm this in
the AOL help or anywhere else.

I use AOL VR on the host machine and AOL 9.0 on the client and my browser is
Opera. I do not and would never use Microsoft's appalling Internet Explorer
and I try to keep its infestation as minimal as possible. If XP networking
somehow cannot work without the Gates abomination, then that surely needs to
be publicised and corrected.

It's all fairly crucial, as shared Internet access was my main reason for
setting up a network in the first place. If it helps, my latest IPCONFIG
results for both machines are set out below. Am I right in wondering why my
Internet connection on the host announces itself as an Ethernet connection?
Should Dhcp be enabled on my genuine Internet connection? Can anyone help?
My apologies for the extreme length of this posting, but I thought I should
give anyone who might be able to help as much - and hopefully relevant -
information as possible.

HEWLETT-PACKARD (host)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : HP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . .:
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x
Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-16-EC-3D-0E-08
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN
Modem
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-11-F5-3F-4A-D9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . : 169.254.108.143
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . :

PACKARD-BELL (CLIENT)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Packard
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-4A-2D-79
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

My apologies for the length of this posting, but I thought I should give
anyone who might be able to helo as much - and hopefully relevant -
information as possible.
Click to expand...

You may not like Microsoft IE (I don't much, either), but from what I
have seen, AOL is far worse, in the sense that it is highly proprietary
and non-standard in many ways.

I don't know if you have seen this thread (it started in 2003 and ended
in 2005), but it appears to suggest that -- at least as of 2005 -- AOL
dialup was not compatible with Windows Internet Connection Sharing, and
that AOL broadband could be made to work, but only by using a proxy server.
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1051869980

also see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q230233/
 
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