Anyone think ATI MMC v8.7 is buggy?

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Does anyone notice MMC v8.7 crashes more than the last version when
recording with its scheduler? Here is what I get:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 10/29/2003
Time: 10:24:00 PM
User: N/A
Description:
Faulting application atimmc.exe, version 8.7.0.3, faulting module
atidvcr.dll, version 8.7.0.31002, fault address 0x00043a79.For more
information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 61 74 69 ure ati
0018: 6d 6d 63 2e 65 78 65 20 mmc.exe
0020: 38 2e 37 2e 30 2e 33 20 8.7.0.3
0028: 69 6e 20 61 74 69 64 76 in atidv
0030: 63 72 2e 64 6c 6c 20 38 cr.dll 8
0038: 2e 37 2e 30 2e 33 31 30 .7.0.310
0040: 30 32 20 61 74 20 6f 66 02 at of
0048: 66 73 65 74 20 30 30 30 fset 000
0050: 34 33 61 37 39 0d 0a 43a79..

And yes, I uninstalled the older versions before installing the newer
version.

Thank you in advance. :)
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Does anyone notice MMC v8.7 crashes more than the last version when
recording with its scheduler? Here is what I get:
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YES.

Heck, I can't even get it to run on my system.

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Todd Clayton said:
Heck, I can't even get it to run on my system.
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Wow, what happens with yours?
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I found mixing my xvid/divx codecs on the same machine as ANY mmc version
ive had with my ATi cards is terrible. The first thing to not work is the
ATi dvd player and then the TV Wonder Ve card features. I just had enough
and run othe software that is just as good if not better. I still get a
kick loading it on a perfect new system install and watch the blunders
happen. I can count on my pc running fine as long as its proven by the ati
software not working.

I know the codecs are a problem deal when you have so many. But all other
software for the most part is ok with it. Just not the ati software. The
DVD does look quite nice however when its the only software. Oh
well..........
 
Wow, what happens with yours?
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Well, if I try using MMC 8.7 when I fire up the TV tuner, it reboots my
PC. However if I stick with the 7.6 which came with my card, it works
like a charm.

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Does anyone notice MMC v8.7 crashes more than the last version when
recording with its scheduler?
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I didn't use 8.5 long enough to make a good comparison, but yes, 8.7 does
crash often in the scheduler. Also, it sometimes records with garbled
sound, with a line of noise along the top of the screen, or with a
spontaneous zoom factor of 2.

--Gary
 
Does anyone notice MMC v8.7 crashes more than the last version when
recording with its scheduler? Here is what I get:
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About the same as with 8.1 here; fairly well-behaved.

My PVR system is Windows 2000, servicepack 4, running
on a Shuttle SN41G2, onboard video disabled.
AIW 9000, all hardware drivers up to date.

MMC itself rarely crashes; Guide+ throws a hissyfit
sometimes. The scheduler has been pretty solid -- a
pleasant surprise! I use my CMDTIME3 batchfile via
the Scheduled Tasks scheduler to set the time four times
a day (plus one minute to catch program start) as the
time on this little box seems to drift. I wish the system
were better at recording a program in the background while
I'm trying to watch a previous recording, but c'est la vie.

I would be interested to hear if the OP is trying to
overclock his vidcard or is otherwise operating outside
the usual parameters.
 
Does anyone notice MMC v8.7 crashes more than the last version when
recording with its scheduler? Here is what I get:
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All of a sudden, all my scheduled recording settings were messed up. Then, I
couldn't even modify them. As soon as I clicked on one of them, the Modify
button goes gray. Actually, all buttons go gray, except of the "Delete All".
After re-creating them, I tried again, and I couldn't modify it again!
Really dumb. I tried to reboot and it worked fine the first time I started
TV. I was able to modify the list of schedules. However, as soon as I
closed it and re-opened it again, the buttons are again disabled, except for
"Delete All".

I had to remove MMC and then re-install it. So far, it has been two days and
it's fine. Who knows how long that's going to last...

-lyj
 
About the same as with 8.1 here; fairly well-behaved.
Click to expand...
My PVR system is Windows 2000, servicepack 4, running
on a Shuttle SN41G2, onboard video disabled.
AIW 9000, all hardware drivers up to date.
Click to expand...
MMC itself rarely crashes; Guide+ throws a hissyfit
sometimes. The scheduler has been pretty solid -- a
pleasant surprise! I use my CMDTIME3 batchfile via
the Scheduled Tasks scheduler to set the time four times
a day (plus one minute to catch program start) as the
time on this little box seems to drift. I wish the system
were better at recording a program in the background while
I'm trying to watch a previous recording, but c'est la vie.
Click to expand...

I wasn't aware you could record and watch a previous recording.
Do I assume you use ATI's MMC to record (VCR file) and its VCR
program to watch a recording from a different VCR file?

I would be interested to hear if the OP is trying to
overclock his vidcard or is otherwise operating outside
the usual parameters.
Click to expand...

I don't like overclocking so no.
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I wasn't aware you could record and watch a previous recording.
Do I assume you use ATI's MMC to record (VCR file) and its VCR
program to watch a recording from a different VCR file?
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Let PVR do the recording. Open past recorded files (VCR, MPG or whatever
format) in the File Player.
 
Mine works fine (Intel 875PBZ board, 2G ram, Audigy 2).

I dislike a few quirks:

TV pops open when schedule recording starts and never closes. I wish the
scheduled recordings would begin and end unobstrusively.

The file player doesn't have a skip ahead by 30 seconds etc functions that
One Touch Recording has.
 
Aloke Prasad said:
Mine works fine (Intel 875PBZ board, 2G ram, Audigy 2).
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I dislike a few quirks:
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TV pops open when schedule recording starts and never closes. I wish the
scheduled recordings would begin and end unobstrusively.
Click to expand...

Yes, I told the scheduler record only but it must shows its video
screen. This bug was in v8.6 as well. :(

The file player doesn't have a skip ahead by 30 seconds etc functions that
One Touch Recording has.
Click to expand...

Same here. I don't know if that is a bug or by designed? I have seen
this feature missing in v8.6 if I remember correctly.
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Let PVR do the recording. Open past recorded files (VCR, MPG or whatever
format) in the File Player.
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I will have to try that. I hope recording and watching a VCR file doesn't
make the recording choppy. I can't browse with Mozilla when recording
or else some scenes get choppy. I do notice the recorder takes over 50%
of my CPU (Athlon XP 2200+).
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I will have to try that. I hope recording and watching a VCR file doesn't
make the recording choppy. I can't browse with Mozilla when recording
or else some scenes get choppy. I do notice the recorder takes over 50%
of my CPU (Athlon XP 2200+).
Click to expand...

They warn you that this may affect the recording (dropped frames). It is
smooth as silk on my (almost) top of the line hardware ...(P4 3G, 2GB DDR
3200 ram, 1000 rpm SATA drive).
 
Aloke Prasad said:
Mine works fine (Intel 875PBZ board, 2G ram, Audigy 2).

I dislike a few quirks:

TV pops open when schedule recording starts and never closes. I wish the
scheduled recordings would begin and end unobstrusively.
Click to expand...

Found out that if you set up a recording through the Schedule tab of TV
Settings, the wizard gives you an option of closing MMC after the recording
finishes. The TV will still pop-up during recording, though.

Unfortunately, you cannot do this (or set up a repeated recording) using the
Guide Plus grid.
 
They warn you that this may affect the recording (dropped frames). It is
smooth as silk on my (almost) top of the line hardware ...(P4 3G, 2GB DDR
3200 ram, 1000 rpm SATA drive).
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1000 rpm? hehe You meant 10,000, right? Dang, my system is old.
I have an Athlon XP 2200+, 1 GB of DDR RAM, and 7200 rpm EIDE HDDs.
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Aloke Prasad said:
Found out that if you set up a recording through the Schedule tab of TV
Settings, the wizard gives you an option of closing MMC after the recording
finishes. The TV will still pop-up during recording, though.

Unfortunately, you cannot do this (or set up a repeated recording) using the
Guide Plus grid.
Click to expand...

You can, however, set up a recording from the grid then modify its
properties in the Scheduler to repeat and/or shut down MMC.

As for the skip forward; well, that behavior would have to be by
design, wouldn't it? Considering the back-skip is about 10 seconds
and works just fine. Thanks ATI for caving in to the content
providers. If I could've just gotten MythTV working I wouldn't have
to grit my teeth so much.
 
Mister Smith said:
"Aloke Prasad" <[email protected]> wrote in message

You can, however, set up a recording from the grid then modify its
properties in the Scheduler to repeat and/or shut down MMC.
Click to expand...

That's how I do that. It would be nice if selecting Record in the Guide+
grid would pop up the wizard that is used by MMC scheduler...
As for the skip forward; well, that behavior would have to be by
design, wouldn't it? Considering the back-skip is about 10 seconds
and works just fine. Thanks ATI for caving in to the content
providers. If I could've just gotten MythTV working I wouldn't have
to grit my teeth so much.
Click to expand...

The playback of one touch record is much better (with adjustable skips
(forward and back). It also has faster and slower speed playback which the
file player doesn't do.
 
Unfortunately, you cannot do this (or set up a repeated recording) using the
Guide Plus grid.
Click to expand...

My gripe/complaint/bug-report with Guide Plus may just be poor design,
or is it a bug?

When I try to view program details or schedule a recording of anything
on the grid other than the channel I am currently watching, the tuner
changes channel to that channel, goes blank and says program not
currently airing.

Makes it impossible to watch a program while searching the Guide for
future recordings or what's on TV next.

I did find a workaround, but it's annoying to have to do it. Pick my
current show, start recording it, then reopen the Guide. Not the
biggest problem in the world of computing, but for me the Guide Plus
as designed is pretty poor.
 
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