anybody here buy a Dell computer?

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Hi

we're trying to decide what kind of new computer to get. Looking at
Dell stuff. Anybody here have a Dell? Good or bad experience?
 
Hi

we're trying to decide what kind of new computer to get. Looking at
Dell stuff. Anybody here have a Dell? Good or bad experience?

My daughter bought a Dell and had terrible experience with Customer
Service. She said it was a nightmare. They couldn't figure out how to
fix the computer, gave her a hard time on the phone, and she wound up
just junking the thing and buying an HP Notebook and she loves it.

Diane
 
PeeVee_Hermann said:
Hi

we're trying to decide what kind of new computer to get. Looking at
Dell stuff. Anybody here have a Dell? Good or bad experience?

i recently got a networking job for a small office...
and they bought all new Dell machines...
everything worked fine so i never had to call tech support...
they seemed pretty good to me...had plently of spare USB ports etc
 
if you want peace of mind and don't wanna risk getting messed around by
smaller pc dealers, i would say dell's your best bet apart from the fact
that they don't sell AMD systems and ask most people and they will say amd
is the way go if you want your moneys worth. But if you just want something
that works dells great. I got two friends with dells and they like em, there
not performance nuts, so if it turns on plays their music their good to go.

but if you want bargin performance or something a little differenct try an
independant retailer of local computer shop, do your research first and
your'll be ok.

If you live in the UK, i got two tips
1. Stay away from pc world, you have been warned. Unless they have a sale,
they are pretty much full of over priced pcs
2. check out my site, lol, www.verisys.8k.com

and lastly if you feel like an adventure consider building your own, be
warned don't go in to it fool hardy. you'll end up with incompatible parts
and money down the toliet.

Good luck
 
PeeVee_Hermann said:
Hi

we're trying to decide what kind of new computer to get. Looking at
Dell stuff. Anybody here have a Dell? Good or bad experience?

Here is an entertaining anecdote about one man's struggle with Dell:

http://www.brokennewz.com/displaystory.asp_Q_storyid_E_1130mbcone

I wouldn't really base my actions on that story, however. As
entertaining as it is, there's not way to tell if it's representative of
the average user's experience.

I've purchased a number of Gateway systems because they give me the
right answers to a number of questions:

1) Will the PC case take standard parts, or do you have some sort of
freaky proprietary parts that I will have to use.

You see this less often now, but at one time it was popular to have
"stylin'" cases that need special parts to work. For instance, I have a
sony VAIO that uses a special floppy drive without a face plate, because
that part is molded into the case. When replacing it, I managed to
retrofit a regular $10 floppy drive instead of shelling out $25 for one
to make it look cosmetically perfect.

In a recent exchange with an HP Pavilion user, I noticed that their
cases have eject buttons mounted, on the case, for the optical drive
bays. Although it turns out that many standard drives will likely work,
you have to be careful to get the right one.

2) Does the system restore allow me to just reinstall the OS, without
all of the extra promotional software (read: crap) that the manufacturer
has seen fit to include with your system.

Gateway systems, thusfar, have come with bona fide *Windows* installers,
with application and driver installation done seperately. Perhaps Dell
has come around since I last checked, but if they are still distributing
a one-shot system restore, that would qualify as a deal breaker for me.
I noticed that a fairly recent HP machine I've seen still uses the
all-in-one restore.

A related piece of advice: Do a system restore as soon as you get the PC
and drop all of the trial crapware. Install software as you need it to
run an efficient system. Also, you might find some relief in this
regard by purchasing a small business computer, instead of a home user
system.

3) Can I call for technical support after my warranty expires, for a
per-incident fee?

Sony gets major kudos in this regard because they took my calls years
later for only $30. I can also attest they they seem to have a
relatively low ****wit ratio. Frontline techs generally were able to
ascertain that I had done my homework, and moved me on to a more
experienced engineer.

Gateway's phone support has been decent. My experiences with Dell and
HP have been poorer, but characterized by much fewer interactions, so
perhaps it just back luck for them (and me) that I got the idiots.

4) Ask if you can be give access to their tech support knowledge base
*before* you make the purchase.

The answer will be no, but I keep hoping. On your own, search the web
for the model/series that you are thinking of purchasing. Sometimes
these products have a design flaw that shows up early. You can save
yourself considerable grief by avoiding those lemons. Laptops, in
particular, can suffer nagging, irrevokable problems from bad design
decisions.

Good luck!
 
I'm a pretty big fan of Dell. The two machines I got from them had plenty of
breakdowns, but they were always there to help get them up and running. Long
after the warranty expired, they would still always talk to me for no
charge. I bought a newer HP machine, and although, it was built with better
quality parts than the Dell, and worked flawlessly for several years, the
one time I had a question and called them, they wouldn't even talk to me.
Whatever machine you get, look for one with no proprietary parts
 
I have a Dell XPS and 2650. I am happy with both and service has been
good for the laptop (complete care).
 
I bought an Inspiron 8100 with three year warranty. Had to have the LCD,
video card , and AC adapter replaced within the first two years. Dell's
support was somewhere between laughable and brain-dead, but they eventually
got it all fixed (took a month, had to ship the computer to Dell three
times - they like to fix one problem at a time, apparently.)
 
If you live in the UK, i got two tips
1. Stay away from pc world, you have been warned. Unless they have a sale,
they are pretty much full of over priced pcs
2. check out my site, lol, www.verisys.8k.com
I got one tip.

If you want to have any credibility, either don't direct people to
your web site (www.verisys.8k.com) or do some work to clean up all the
broken links and missing images.

Gave me no useful information, and did not convince me that you know
anything at all about PC's
 
we're trying to decide what kind of new computer to get. Looking at
Dell stuff. Anybody here have a Dell? Good or bad experience?

I am using a Dell 4300 PC (a mid size desktop PC). It works. And I like
the fact that I can easily open the case without using tools (this is a
big time saving as comparing to my old PC that I assembled -- I need to
remove 10 screws to open it).

But I have a feeling that it is not the kind of computer that is good
for a person who likes to upgrade his PC (like me). It is limited in
these areas:
- It has very few PCI slots. Currently I have maxed
out with my Dell PC. When I need to add something
into it, I must remove something first.
- It uses some unusual parts that I must order it
from Dell instead of buying it in local stores.
The part that I am referring to is like the original
fan in the PC that has unusual thickness. The power
supply "may" also be specific to Dell; I am not sure.
- The round plastic front panel doesn't match well with
common components that tend to be flat in the front.
This results with exposing a small area of the inside
of the round plastic front panel. This is a "look"
thing.

Hope these shortcomings only applies to that model and are not
applicable to other models from Dell.

Jay Chan
 
I am using a Dell 4300 PC (a mid size desktop PC). It works. And I like
the fact that I can easily open the case without using tools (this is a
big time saving as comparing to my old PC that I assembled -- I need to
remove 10 screws to open it).

But I have a feeling that it is not the kind of computer that is good
for a person who likes to upgrade his PC (like me). It is limited in
these areas:
- It has very few PCI slots. Currently I have maxed
out with my Dell PC. When I need to add something
into it, I must remove something first.
- It uses some unusual parts that I must order it
from Dell instead of buying it in local stores.
The part that I am referring to is like the original
fan in the PC that has unusual thickness. The power
supply "may" also be specific to Dell; I am not sure.
- The round plastic front panel doesn't match well with
common components that tend to be flat in the front.
This results with exposing a small area of the inside
of the round plastic front panel. This is a "look"
thing.

Hope these shortcomings only applies to that model and are not
applicable to other models from Dell.

Dell, HP and Compaq cases do usually have at least a few
quirks even when full desktop models. Most decent
aftermarket cases now have removable side panels so at worst
it's only a matter of a couple screws... and they can be
thumbscrews so it'll only take a couple seconds, no need to
even scoot the system forward with the thumbscrews. Other
cases might have latches too with a handle to release 'em,
like the older full-sized Antecs but I always prefer to put
a couple thumbscrews in too as sometimes a single-point
latch will allow vibrations and having it screwed just makes
the case more rigid in general.
 
PeeVee_Hermann, 4/5/2005, 2:54:16 PM,
Hi

we're trying to decide what kind of new computer to get. Looking at
Dell stuff. Anybody here have a Dell? Good or bad experience?

We have many Dells at work and I maintain them when necessary. They
are pretty good hardware-wise except for one major caveat. I have
discovered Dell motherboards and power supplies have their pins
rearranged. I almost fried a motherboard when I wanted to change it in
my computer but got lucky enough to notice a post mentioning that a few
years ago. More research confirmed my suspicions when I checked
voltages on the connector. We have Dell Dimension 4100, I don't know
if this is still true with newer ones.
 
... Most decent
aftermarket cases now have removable side panels so at worst
it's only a matter of a couple screws... and they can be
thumbscrews so it'll only take a couple seconds, no need to
even scoot the system forward with the thumbscrews.

Moving the system forward is OK. My old clone PC is so bad that I must
turn it upside down to remove 4 screws from the bottom before I have
access to the other 6 screws. Seem like back then they really were
afraid of people opening the case and messing with it.

Jay Chan
 
Moving the system forward is OK. My old clone PC is so bad that I must
turn it upside down to remove 4 screws from the bottom before I have
access to the other 6 screws. Seem like back then they really were
afraid of people opening the case and messing with it.

Jay Chan

That IS bad... restricting thought to cases only 10 years
old or newer, it is very rare for a
"full-sized"/somewhat-standardized (rather than VERY
proprietary) case to have the outer shell secured on more
than 2 planes of the exterior and usually not the bottom at
all.
 
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