Any way to OC a Williamete?

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I've heard stories that you can't OC a williamete-128. Now I don't know if
that's true, let's hope it ain't. Why? Let's just say that I have a Celeron
of 1700 MHz based on this very peculiar core.
Basically I don't have the money to upgrade my system so often. Actually I
do but taking into account I'm building a two-story house I just can't
separate into computers right now. As for the other components there's a:
ECS P4VXASD2+
Radeon 9600XT
Maxtor 40 GB
512 MB DDR
etcetera.

I want to squeeze out the last bit of juice out of this.
As for additional fans or crap I might require that's not a problem cuz it's
cheap. Peace out.
 
Vitamin Z said:
I've heard stories that you can't OC a williamete-128. Now I don't know if
that's true, let's hope it ain't. Why? Let's just say that I have a
Celeron of 1700 MHz based on this very peculiar core.
Basically I don't have the money to upgrade my system so often. Actually I
do but taking into account I'm building a two-story house I just can't
separate into computers right now. As for the other components there's a:
ECS P4VXASD2+
Radeon 9600XT
Maxtor 40 GB
512 MB DDR
etcetera.

I want to squeeze out the last bit of juice out of this.
As for additional fans or crap I might require that's not a problem cuz
it's cheap. Peace out.
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And I forgot to mention it's a Williamete-128.
 
I've heard stories that you can't OC a williamete-128. Now I don't know if
that's true, let's hope it ain't. Why? Let's just say that I have a Celeron
of 1700 MHz based on this very peculiar core.
Basically I don't have the money to upgrade my system so often. Actually I
do but taking into account I'm building a two-story house I just can't
separate into computers right now. As for the other components there's a:
ECS P4VXASD2+
Radeon 9600XT
Maxtor 40 GB
512 MB DDR
etcetera.

I want to squeeze out the last bit of juice out of this.
As for additional fans or crap I might require that's not a problem cuz it's
cheap. Peace out.
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Either your motherboard allows raising the FSB, or it
doesn't. That's how you o'c it, and if you o'c it much
you'd need to raise CPU voltage a little and provide more
cooling and power. ECS boards are not the greatest and you
may find it hampers you too.
 
kony said:
Either your motherboard allows raising the FSB, or it
doesn't. That's how you o'c it, and if you o'c it much
you'd need to raise CPU voltage a little and provide more
cooling and power. ECS boards are not the greatest and you
may find it hampers you too.
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Yup, I'm pretty much aware that my mobo is not the best there is but I just
bought it back then and that's that. Can't fix that now. As for the FSB if
you mean raising the frequency from 100 to 133 MHz yes I do have a jumper
capable of doing that but the only problem in that case is the fact that the
processor simply makes a beep at boot-up and it won't go any further.
Although I'm not familiar as how to raise voltage to the CPU. Is this VCORE
or what? Thanks for answering.
 
Yup, I'm pretty much aware that my mobo is not the best there is
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So, if you are the overclocker-type of user, keep it in mind
next time, as the minor difference in cost of a motherboard
can make all the difference in system performance. For an
overclocker, it is better value to buy a board with good o'c
potential, and particlarly, a lot of good low-ESR capacitors
so they don't self-bake over the long term.
but I just
bought it back then and that's that. Can't fix that now. As for the FSB if
you mean raising the frequency from 100 to 133 MHz yes I do have a jumper
capable of doing that
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That is one option. Another is if you have bios menu o'c
FSB settings.
but the only problem in that case is the fact that the
processor simply makes a beep at boot-up and it won't go any further.
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As expected, if you raise the FSB that much, you may easily
need to raise the CPU voltage, but even then it might not be
stable at that high of an o'c. Keeping o'c in mind, some
users might buy a lower-speed CPU so that when they o'c, for
example in your case going from 100 to 133 FSB, that the
core CPU technology is still within expected ceiling at the
next-jump up in FSB speed. It might apply in your case, or
might not, I dont know what the expected ceiling is on your
particular CPU, but certanly to get there you will have to
raise the cpu voltage.
Although I'm not familiar as how to raise voltage to the CPU. Is this VCORE
or what? Thanks for answering.
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yes

additionally, since raising FSB usually means raising memory
bus too (unless you make corresponding bios changes) you
might also need raise the memory voltage, and/or change the
memory:FSB ratio, and/or change memory timings.

After attaining what seems a successful o'c, you then need
check it with Prime95's Torture Test and Memtest86+, at the
very least.
 
So, if you are the overclocker-type of user, keep it in mind
next time, as the minor difference in cost of a motherboard
can make all the difference in system performance.
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Most certainly will, as a matter of fact I'm planning to buy a 64-bit based
system pretty soon and I'm already reading all sorts of reviews on
mainboards so I don't repeat my error.
For an
overclocker, it is better value to buy a board with good o'c
potential, and particlarly, a lot of good low-ESR capacitors
so they don't self-bake over the long term.
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Didn't have that in mind back then.
That is one option. Another is if you have bios menu o'c
FSB settings.
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I do, but the multiplier seems to be locked. All options in the CPU section
in BIOS are locked and aren't possible to change except for the CPU Ratio
which can go all the way from 8.0x to 24.0x, this of course doesn't seem to
have any effect, as I've already mentioned since the CPU appears to be
locked. And I don't know how to unlock it.
Unlock it for clocking that is.
As expected, if you raise the FSB that much, you may easily
need to raise the CPU voltage, but even then it might not be
stable at that high of an o'c. Keeping o'c in mind, some
users might buy a lower-speed CPU so that when they o'c, for
example in your case going from 100 to 133 FSB, that the
core CPU technology is still within expected ceiling at the
next-jump up in FSB speed. It might apply in your case, or
might not, I dont know what the expected ceiling is on your
particular CPU, but certanly to get there you will have to
raise the cpu voltage.


yes

additionally, since raising FSB usually means raising memory
bus too (unless you make corresponding bios changes) you
might also need raise the memory voltage, and/or change the
memory:FSB ratio, and/or change memory timings.

After attaining what seems a successful o'c, you then need
check it with Prime95's Torture Test and Memtest86+, at the
very least.
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I'll see what I can do. Thx
 
I do, but the multiplier seems to be locked.
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I didn't suggest changing the multiplier for this very
reason, it is indeed locked on the CPU, not the board.
All options in the CPU section
in BIOS are locked and aren't possible to change except for the CPU Ratio
which can go all the way from 8.0x to 24.0x, this of course doesn't seem to
have any effect, as I've already mentioned since the CPU appears to be
locked. And I don't know how to unlock it.
Unlock it for clocking that is.
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Forget about "unlock".
As I wrote, you can either change the FSB, or you can't.
That's all, it is the lone way you will need to overclock.
If the only way to change FSB is from 100 to 133, you
"probably" need to also find a way to increase CPU voltage.
If your board has no settings to do that, nor jumpers, there
are some modifications that might be possible, like
soldering a potentiometer to the voltage regulator
controller, or wrapping a wire around some CPU pins, or wire
inserted in the CPU socket. I don't recall the exact method
for that CPU, so you could Google search for it. Frankly,
it's not worth much effort as the low L2 cache of your
Celeron is the major performance limitation, not it's clock
speed. Any increase you gain will be minor in tasks that
are actually CPU-bound. Nonetheless, it should still be a
near - linear performance increase... it's just that the
initial performance was low too.
 
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