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ok here is problem,
The company DOES not own the Domain name that everything is built upon,(
email and DNS)
the owner of the domain is no longer with the company,and will not give up
the name.
I have a empty root domain,(two DC's) and a child domain under it(four DC's)
We are in NATIVE mode,so we cannot go back.
my idea is two create a new Forest,with a domain name that will be new,and
then set the OLD domain (keeping the name that we don;t own) behind the new
one.
any one has ever worked in similar situation?

thanks
 
then set the OLD domain (keeping the name that we don;t own) behind the
new
one.
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How are you going to "set the old domain behind the new one"?
What are your exact steps to accomplish this?

DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
 
i was thinking by creating a trust between but it does not make a lot a sence
to me
my other options that i am investigating are (and correct me if i am wrong)
Upgrade if possible to Win2003 AD domain,and then use the rename options?
or,
bulid a new server under the root,name it with a new name that we own,use
Active directory migration tool to migrade the old Dc's info there,demote the
old dc's ,one by one,promote them again under the new name,and then do the
same (if possible ) to the child domain ,that is,
build a new dc that will be a child domain controler for the new AD domain
name,use again the Migration tool to migrade the user accounts over,and then
demote the old Dc's ,one at the time,and promote them to the new domain name.
But then ,i have a load of member servers and workstations, i dont know how
to go about them.
thanks a lot
 
notgetinit said:
ok here is problem,
The company DOES not own the Domain name that everything is built
upon,( email and DNS)
the owner of the domain is no longer with the company,and will not
give up the name.
I have a empty root domain,(two DC's) and a child domain under
it(four DC's) We are in NATIVE mode,so we cannot go back.
my idea is two create a new Forest,with a domain name that will be
new,and then set the OLD domain (keeping the name that we don;t own)
behind the new one.
any one has ever worked in similar situation?

thanks
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What's the need to change your internal AD DNS name? Nobody but you will
ever see it anyway. There is no supported way to change a W2000/AD domain
name except a complete reinstall from scratch. If it's just email you want
to change, you can do that easily enough without changing anything AD-ish.
 
bulid a new server under the root,name it with a new name that we own,use
Active directory migration tool to migrade the old Dc's info there,demote the
old dc's ,one by one,promote them again under the new name,and then do the
same (if possible ) to the child domain ,that is,
build a new dc that will be a child domain controler for the new AD domain
name,use again the Migration tool to migrade the user accounts over,and then
demote the old Dc's ,one at the time,and promote them to the new domain
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name.


This should work.


hth
DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
 
Lanwench said:
What's the need to change your internal AD DNS name? Nobody but you will
ever see it anyway. There is no supported way to change a W2000/AD domain
name except a complete reinstall from scratch. If it's just email you want
to change, you can do that easily enough without changing anything AD-ish.
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Do you know of away to change email?

the email server is excange 2000 and a DC on the child domain...also is a
internal root intranet server that holds the main INTRANET web site,and of
cource has the name of OLD Domain_DNS name.....

i
 
notgetinit said:
Do you know of away to change email?

the email server is excange 2000 and a DC on the child domain...also
is a internal root intranet server that holds the main INTRANET web
site,and of cource has the name of OLD Domain_DNS name.....

i
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The AD domain name isn't relevant to the e-mail domains you handle. See
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html for some help & try posting
in an exchange group....
 
ok here is problem,
The company DOES not own the Domain name that everything is built upon,(
email and DNS)
the owner of the domain is no longer with the company,and will not give up
the name.
I have a empty root domain,(two DC's) and a child domain under it(four DC's)
We are in NATIVE mode,so we cannot go back.
my idea is two create a new Forest,with a domain name that will be new,and
then set the OLD domain (keeping the name that we don;t own) behind the new
one.
any one has ever worked in similar situation?
Click to expand...
Are you talking of making the old Domain a sub-domain (in a new tree)
of the new one? I don't believe you can do that.

I'd say you best bet would be to create a new forest for the new
Domain and migrate everything over in stages. ADMT2 is apparently the
tool to use though I've never used it myself.

Cheers,

Cliff
 
Do you know of away to change email?

the email server is excange 2000 and a DC on the child domain...also is a
internal root intranet server that holds the main INTRANET web site,and of
cource has the name of OLD Domain_DNS name.....
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It's a long time since I did Exchange but here goes. You need to
ensure that the existing server will accept mail for the new name and
set the new email address in all Exchange user accounts.

From memory the default setup of an Exchange server is to accept all
mail regardless of Domain name. If this has been changed you need to
add the new Domain to the acceptable Domain name list. Can't remember
how. Then you somehow need to add the new Domain in each user account.
Probably you could do it by GPO, and I vaguely remember playing around
in this area just before I gave up supporting Exchange.

You need to ensure that the mail gets from outside your network to the
Exchange server. That basically means setting up your external DNS to
have an MX record pointing the name of your to your gateway device and
ensuring that the gateway device sends the packet to the correct IP
address of the Exchange Server. Depends on your gateway setup how you
do this.

Cheers,

Cliff
 
Enkidu said:
It's a long time since I did Exchange but here goes. You need to
ensure that the existing server will accept mail for the new name and
set the new email address in all Exchange user accounts.

From memory the default setup of an Exchange server is to accept all
mail regardless of Domain name.
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No - it accepts mail for domains specified in recipient policies. It will
accept inbound SMTP connections from any server, but that isn't relevant....
If this has been changed you need to
add the new Domain to the acceptable Domain name list.
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Recipient policy :)
Can't remember
how. Then you somehow need to add the new Domain in each user account.
Probably you could do it by GPO, and I vaguely remember playing around
in this area just before I gave up supporting Exchange.
Click to expand...

The link I posted will help if you want to take a look at it.
You need to ensure that the mail gets from outside your network to the
Exchange server. That basically means setting up your external DNS to
have an MX record pointing the name of your to your gateway device and
ensuring that the gateway device sends the packet to the correct IP
address of the Exchange Server. Depends on your gateway setup how you
do this.
Click to expand...

Yep. Forwarding TCP port 25 (SMTP) to the internal IP address of the
Exchange server...
 
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