Any decent 500-700 watt power supplies no more than $95 US?

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Apparently, the Antec Truepower New uses Japanese capacitors. Is
the Truepower New worth the money compared to the EarthWatts? What
are the (typically) good quality brands?

Thanks.
 
John said:
Apparently, the Antec Truepower New uses Japanese capacitors. Is
the Truepower New worth the money compared to the EarthWatts? What
are the (typically) good quality brands?

Thanks.
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There's a 650W Thermaltake on sale at Newegg for $85 ($70 after rebate)
right now.

Jon
 
Apparently, the Antec Truepower New uses Japanese capacitors. Is
the Truepower New worth the money compared to the EarthWatts? What
are the (typically) good quality brands?

Thanks.
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Typically is to typify.

One illustration of typical people occurs to be most highly right over
the broadest group of names. What would be atypical about not
spending an additional $20 above your limit, on a 750W Corsair, as
opposed to a 500W Antec/earthwatts, for $75, when the Corsair draws
roughly three times more positive indications at the highest possible
ranking?

The fact that Corsair is endorsed by Custom PC Magazine and Antec by
PC World France ought not to be considered typical, but irrelevant
within the matrix.

Nor, necessarily, is an indication of facevalue you advance.

To say, given a possible poll of 2000 reviews to read, Japanese
capacitors will be the deciding factor in your decision: what would
you think might be of influence if you could and then should be
influenced to spend some more money?

And last for less, but not inclusive. Is there a lower limit on what
you would consider not worth spending? And, if that limit arbitrarily
were say, $40, would that amount be worth factoring at a field for a
third additional for some discount off by up to 20% from the highest
best either the Antec for Corsair objectifies?

Inclusive would be the model I believe I'm likely now to be running
(I'd have to open the case to ascertain certifiability), a
Thermaltake. Though highest polled, would you think any less of my
Thermaltake on matrixes, at about 15% off form a lower stated
objective 500W is indicative to you.

Do you know how to identify what two fields typify an arrangement on
NewEgg, I've used to draw a matrix of all possible power supplies most
likely to be encountered?
 
Flasherly said:
Typically is to typify.

One illustration of typical people occurs to be most highly
right over the broadest group of names. What would be atypical
about not spending an additional $20 above your limit, on a 750W
Corsair, as opposed to a 500W Antec/earthwatts, for $75, when
the Corsair draws roughly three times more positive indications
at the highest possible ranking?

The fact that Corsair is endorsed by Custom PC Magazine and
Antec by PC World France ought not to be considered typical, but
irrelevant within the matrix.

Nor, necessarily, is an indication of facevalue you advance.

To say, given a possible poll of 2000 reviews to read, Japanese
capacitors will be the deciding factor in your decision: what
would you think might be of influence if you could and then
should be influenced to spend some more money?
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You should spend less on methamphetamines...
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You should spend less on methamphetamines...
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Yes, the information I provided was too high.

Let me correct that, a highest-reviewed power supply I'm running is
$25 while its current rebate lasts.

Happy hunting and don't spend it all at once. . . :)
 
Have you ever actually measured the power that your PC consumes?

I was ready to play along with the "YOU NEED A 1000 WATT POWER
SUPPLY!!!" people, but apparently that was not the problem here.

The idea that modern systems actually use 500-1000 watts still
sounds rediculous. The makers increase the power output probably
just to keep up with the silly idea that a more power hungry
supply means a faster system and that power requirements are
increasing as systems get REALLY REALLY FAST!!!

Someday, I need to buy or borrow a power measurement device, the
kind that clamp onto the power cord without having to touch any
conductors, then get a real idea of PC power consumption.
 
Have you ever actually measured the power that your PC consumes?

I was ready to play along with the "YOU NEED A 1000 WATT POWER
SUPPLY!!!" people, but apparently that was not the problem here.

The idea that modern systems actually use 500-1000 watts still
sounds rediculous. The makers increase the power output probably
just to keep up with the silly idea that a more power hungry
supply means a faster system and that power requirements are
increasing as systems get REALLY REALLY FAST!!!

Someday, I need to buy or borrow a power measurement device, the
kind that clamp onto the power cord without having to touch any
conductors, then get a real idea of PC power consumption.
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I gots one - @$19 on sales they periodically kick off. Kill-A-
Watt(tm). Easy way to monitor average costs. Got lucky and learned
computers from a dusty ol' TV tech. He'd laugh at shocks;- imagine
dust flying everywhere off him after he'd been electrically shocked.
Second thought, better off forgetting the idea I said that. Power
consumption is directly proportional to usage, so as the computer is
doing more or less of things, cost-consumption fluctuates. Things you
need is what you like to do. In practical terms -- how much crap do
you want to stuff into your case, or, better yet, are you a gameboy?
The games, related G/CPUs provided an industry standard applied 5
years ago is still applicable: Games make or break 'em. Gamer,
advance and go forth for the gusto. Non-gamer, stay put and stay on
the quality;- treat yourself to a steak with what's leftover. 3 HDs &
3DVDs is it for me, so I go to a website all about Power Supplies,
where the site's javascript lets me plugin what hardware I've got, and
adds up my build's total combined consumption for a determination,
aroundabout for a 500W PS, which hits the sweet spot;- off and over
Newegg to skim for efficiency/quality in the reviews. All I can say
is stick to better-reviewed/regarded units -- the no-namer brands have
been letdowns I've had to replace sooner over time on mine or failed
systems I've sold to others. Nothing really bad about Antec, either
-- only one I sold (all Antec case/PS) in a Athlon 1200Mhz XP is still
running after 8 years;-- also really like my all-aluminum Antec LanBoy
I ran with, until recently, for 5 years. Will do something about its
fans and bring it back up.
 
Have you ever actually measured the power that your PC consumes?

I was ready to play along with the "YOU NEED A 1000 WATT POWER
SUPPLY!!!" people, but apparently that was not the problem here.

The idea that modern systems actually use 500-1000 watts still
sounds rediculous. The makers increase the power output probably
just to keep up with the silly idea that a more power hungry
supply means a faster system and that power requirements are
increasing as systems get REALLY REALLY FAST!!!

Someday, I need to buy or borrow a power measurement device, the
kind that clamp onto the power cord without having to touch any
conductors, then get a real idea of PC power consumption.
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Easier than buying a separate device to actually measure the power
used...

http://www.enermax.outervision.com/index.jsp

Just fill in the details of all the components you actually have, and
let their calculator tell you what supply you need.
 
Flasherly said:
I gots one - @$19 on sales they periodically kick off. Kill-A-
Watt(tm). Easy way to monitor average costs.
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so I go to a website all about Power Supplies, where the site's
javascript lets me plugin what hardware I've got, and adds up my
build's total combined consumption for a determination,
aroundabout for a 500W PS, which hits the sweet spot;- off and
over Newegg to skim for efficiency/quality in the reviews. All
I can say is stick to better-reviewed/regarded units
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Why on Earth don't you plug in your PC to the Kill-A-Watt and find
out how much power your PC really uses? I might get one of those.
They are much cheaper than a clamp-on meter, and guessing power
requirements is for the birds.

From an Amazon review of the Kill-A-Watt:
Core 2 Duo E8600 with 8 GB of ram and 4 hard drives. 100 watts
all of the time.
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HE NEEDS A 750 WATT PS!!!

http://techgage.com/article/intel_core_2_quad_q9450_266ghz/12

Very revealing. Apparently power supply size matters, the same way
penis size matters.
 
This is funny IMO.

From below:
Running Prime95 with all 4 cores loaded (Q9550, in a gaming
system), power consumption rises to a respectable 245 W.
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And the guy does not even wonder why he has a 600 watt PS.




http://www0.epinions.com/review/Int..._Processor_EU80569PJ073N/content_479930715780

Here's the parts list of my rig:

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L rev 2.0 motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 G0
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (heatsink/fan)
Patriot DDR2-800 2 GB (1x 1GB sticks) memory at 5-5-5-16 timings (2.2 volts)
2x Western Digital Raptors at 34 GB each (RAID0)
JMICRO PCI-E controller (for the Raptors in RAID0)
Seagate 500GB SATA drive
EVGA Geforce GTX260 896 MB video card
Seasonic S600 600W PSU
Antec Super Lanboy

They are all wrapped up in Antec's light Lanboy aluminum mid-tower
case. Power consumption was measured with a Kill-A-Watt power
meter.

At the stock 2.83 GHz with SpeedStep (idles at 2 GHz), the entire
rig sucks up 148 W. Not bad for all those components as well as a
quad-core CPU. Running Prime95 with all 4 cores loaded, power
consumption rises to a respectable 245 W.

Repeating the test at 3.5 GHz (Speedstep enabled, but voltage
stepping is set at 1.225v) yielded an idle (2.4 GHz) power
consumption of 165 W. Loaded, the entire rig ate up 280 W. Still
not too bad.

UPDATE: I was able to lower the voltage, so power consumptin also
lowered! At the same speed, I was able to stay stable at 1.183v,
which dropped the loaded power consumption to 260 W, while it
idles around 160W.

Remember that the last time I hit 3.5 GHz with the Q6600 (I had to
disable Speedstep), it ate up 210 W idle, and 300 W loaded! The
lower voltage and temperature really does make a difference!
 
This is funny IMO.
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I'm running an older RightMark CPU multiplier, stepping at on or off
the one core I'm using for something around a 3rd less, as it's mostly
off. Your video card series is upwards of 100W draws, though don't
have it's specs per se. Nor have seen what makes the "super" in a
Lanboy (bigger, I'd suspect, though I've seen mine occasionally as low
as $30 on sales -- very nice case in any event). No DVDs, dedicated
raid with a little storage on the side -- actually sounds if
everything could be fitted compactly, as well.

Qualifies your original question, though not as much in a typical
sense a lessor component assembly typifies. Not everyone is running
quadcores, duallies perhaps would be mainstream typical.

Your present Seasonic. Not even going to ask what you paid for that
-- *presently* Seasonic runs upwards of $150+ between 6 and 850W --
nor sure who Newegg's endorsement of JonnyGuru.com qualifies, although
had I a similar setup I'd be in the same boat and looking for the
best.

No biggie - just change the matrics.

Antec has two units -- nothing especially offhand exciting, although
that Corsair CMPSU-650 (top of the reviewer lists by way far ahead)
looks interesting. 5yr warr/variable sensing fan/crossfire(hm)/
*rated* 80% efficiency/brick-heavy/52A 12V rail.

Nor really that much science if it's evidently nailed. Corsair's not
pulling any punches when it comes to quality, all that's left is to
shell out $4 over your limit. Come on... I'd be game, even though it
would be my first Corsair. Last PS I looked hard at was Fortron, and
I was looking only within lowend server-grade units (after getting
over the initial server cost shock). Cost me that when 400W was
considered a highend penis (and I'd dropped near a grand into this
Athlon64 3G I built and am still running).

Sounds like a nice system you have, anyway. Someday I should think
about convincing myself I can do more with four (or even two) than I
do with a single core.
 
Flasherby

PLUG YOUR PC INTO YOUR KILL-A-WATT AND FIND OUT HOW MUCH POWER IT
REALLY USES, unless you were lying about having one...

I read someone say that their power usage goes way up when maxing out
their video card, but that seems odd given the fact that my Intel Quad
Core Q9550 package dissapates a maximum of 95 watts and uses a
heatsink/fan much larger than my GeForce 7950GT/512 uses.
 
Steve said:
(e-mail address removed) says...
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What does your Kill-A-Watt meter say while you're running Prime 95 on
all cores and running Furmark at the same time?
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Apparently, every working technician should have one (or similar), but
I do not yet.
 
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