Anti-aliased Equations

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Using PowerPoint 2003: When I use equation editor to enter an equation it
appears fine on screen until I apply any animation. Then, the anti-aliasing
goes and I'm left with a jagged looking equation. Is there any way around
this please?

thanks
Tim
 
enigmavariant,
Yes, that problem has been around for quite some time. I do not know of any
real solution being offered so far (hope I am wrong and somebody will have
one) other than cutting the equation and pasting as a picture.
 
Hi

I *think* you can apply animations to mathtype equations:
Mathtype 6:
http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/
There is a free trial so you can double check

Other than that I would suggest putting autoshapes with background fill over
the bits of the equation you want to reveal, then applying exit animations to
the autoshapes. Will that achieve what you are after? Or did you want
something specific?

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

PowerPoint Live 2007 28-31 October in New Orleans www.pptlive.com
See you there
 
That is a fault of PowerPoint, and not Equation Editor. Actually,
the upgrade to Equation Editor, MathType, suffers from the same
anomaly, but with MathType you have one additional option that
you don't have with Equation Editor. With MathType, you can save
the equation as a high-resolution GIF, then scale it down in PPT
to the proper size. Equations created this way will animate quite
smoothly, but this isn't a realistic solution if your
presentation has more than, say, a dozen or more equations.

Experiment with different animation techniques and/or different
background styles. In my experience these combinations produce
the worst effects: "movement" animations such as "fly from right"
or "zoom in" and a gradient background. These produce the best
[possible] effects: "appear" animations such as "appear",
"dissolve in", and "fade in", and a solid background.

We have an application note on our website that shows how to use
MathType with PowerPoint, but many of the techniques apply to
Equation Editor as well: www.dessci.com/ppt

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType 5
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
That is a fault of PowerPoint, and not Equation Editor. Actually,
the upgrade to Equation Editor, MathType, suffers from the same
anomaly,
Click to expand...

Or to be fairer (if more blunt), no matter whether you use Equation Editor or
MathType, PowerPoint's bugs still bite you. ;-)
 
That is a fault of PowerPoint, and not Equation Editor.
Actually, the upgrade to Equation Editor, MathType, suffers
from the same anomaly...
Click to expand...

and Steve Rindsberg said:
Or to be fairer (if more blunt), no matter whether you use
Equation Editor or MathType, PowerPoint's bugs still bite you.
;-)
Click to expand...

Ok; fair enough. To-may-toe, to-mah-toe. ;-)

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType 5
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
Just wanted to make it clear that it's a PPT flaw, not one in
either of your products.
Click to expand...

Thanks Steve. That always means more coming from a 3rd party than
from us, but no less true either way.

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType 5
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
Thanks Steve. That always means more coming from a 3rd party than
from us, but no less true either way.
Click to expand...

Exactly.

Now you tell 'em it's not MY software's fault either. ;-)
 
Exactly.

Now you tell 'em it's not MY software's fault either. ;-)

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Click to expand...

The best solution I've come up with so far:
create an equasion object, resize if to about twice its needed size,
copy it (Ctrl+C)
open photoshop, create a large enough image, paste the object (Ctrl+V)
use the selection tool to select only the equasion, copy it again (Ctrl
+C)
back to powerpoint, paste the image (Ctrl+V)
use the "Set Transparent Color" under "recolor" to set the background
to be transparent.
resize it to the needed size.
also, better save the equasion objects in a hidden slide for future
changes.
 
Just as a reminder of where this all started, the OP mentioned his
(her?) equations looked fine in PPT 2003 until applying animation,
then he was left with jagged equations. The solution "shooshx"
recommends is unnecessary and way too time-consuming if one uses
MathType instead of Equation Editor for the equations. Keep in mind
that the OP's problem is still present no matter which of these tools
you use to create equations if you create _equation objects_, because
the problem is caused by PPT and not by the equation-writing software.

So why is shooshx's solution unnecessary? Because MathType lets you
choose to create GIF images instead of equation objects. Create the
GIF anti-aliased, with a transparent background, and at 384dpi, then
save it. Insert it into PPT with the Insert > Picture command (not
with copy/paste), and reduce the size to 25% of the original.

If I'm creating a presentation with dozens of equations, I'm probably
going to use equation objects rather than GIFs, because it's faster.
If the quality of the equations is important though, it takes only a
few seconds longer to use the GIF method.

Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
I have the same problem!



enigmavarian wrote:

Anti-aliased Equations
10-Oct-07

Using PowerPoint 2003: When I use equation editor to enter an equation it
appears fine on screen until I apply any animation. Then, the anti-aliasing
goes and I'm left with a jagged looking equation. Is there any way around
this please

thank
Tim

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Anti-aliased Equations
Using PowerPoint 2003: When I use equation editor to enter an equation it
appears fine on screen until I apply any animation. Then, the anti-aliasing
goes and I'm left with a jagged looking equation. Is there any way around
this please

thank
Tim

enigmavariant,Yes, that problem has been around for quite some time.
enigmavariant
Yes, that problem has been around for quite some time. I do not know of any
real solution being offered so far (hope I am wrong and somebody will have
one) other than cutting the equation and pasting as a picture

--
Luc Sander
MVP - PowerPoin
"enigmavariant" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht

RE: Anti-aliased Equations
H

I *think* you can apply animations to mathtype equations
Mathtype 6
http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype
There is a free trial so you can double chec

Other than that I would suggest putting autoshapes with background fill over
the bits of the equation you want to reveal, then applying exit animations to
the autoshapes. Will that achieve what you are after? Or did you want
something specific

Luc
--
MOS Master Instructo
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

PowerPoint Live 2007 28-31 October in New Orleans www.pptlive.co
See you ther


:

That is a fault of PowerPoint, and not Equation Editor.
That is a fault of PowerPoint, and not Equation Editor. Actually
the upgrade to Equation Editor, MathType, suffers from the sam
anomaly, but with MathType you have one additional option tha
you don't have with Equation Editor. With MathType, you can sav
the equation as a high-resolution GIF, then scale it down in PP
to the proper size. Equations created this way will animate quit
smoothly, but this isn't a realistic solution if you
presentation has more than, say, a dozen or more equations

Experiment with different animation techniques and/or differen
background styles. In my experience these combinations produc
the worst effects: "movement" animations such as "fly from right
or "zoom in" and a gradient background. These produce the bes
[possible] effects: "appear" animations such as "appear"
"dissolve in", and "fade in", and a solid background

We have an application note on our website that shows how to us
MathType with PowerPoint, but many of the techniques apply t
Equation Editor as well: www.dessci.com/pp

--
Bob Mathew
Director of Trainin
Design Science, Inc
bobm at dessci.co
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=new
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaid


Re: Anti-aliased Equations
On 10-Oct-2007, I wrote

and Steve Rindsberg <[email protected]> replied

Ok; fair enough. To-may-toe, to-mah-toe. ;-

--
Bob Mathew
Director of Trainin
Design Science, Inc
bobm at dessci.co
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=new
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide

Re: Anti-aliased Equations

Or to be fairer (if more blunt), no matter whether you use Equation Editor or
MathType, PowerPoint's bugs still bite you. ;-)


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Re: Anti-aliased Equations
On 11-Oct-2007, Steve Rindsberg wrote:


Thanks Steve. That always means more coming from a 3rd party than
from us, but no less true either way.

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType 5
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide

Re: Anti-aliased Equations


Just wanted to make it clear that it's a PPT flaw, not one in either of your
products.



-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Re: Anti-aliased Equations

Exactly.

Now you tell 'em it's not MY software's fault either. ;-)

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Thanks to everyone for the replies. All very helpful.Tim
Thanks to everyone for the replies. All very helpful.

Tim

Re: Anti-aliased Equations

The best solution I've come up with so far:
create an equasion object, resize if to about twice its needed size,
copy it (Ctrl+C)
open photoshop, create a large enough image, paste the object (Ctrl+V)
use the selection tool to select only the equasion, copy it again (Ctrl
+C)
back to powerpoint, paste the image (Ctrl+V)
use the "Set Transparent Color" under "recolor" to set the background
to be transparent.
resize it to the needed size.
also, better save the equasion objects in a hidden slide for future
changes.

Just as a reminder of where this all started, the OP mentioned his(her?
Just as a reminder of where this all started, the OP mentioned his
(her?) equations looked fine in PPT 2003 until applying animation,
then he was left with jagged equations. The solution "shooshx"
recommends is unnecessary and way too time-consuming if one uses
MathType instead of Equation Editor for the equations. Keep in mind
that the OP's problem is still present no matter which of these tools
you use to create equations if you create _equation objects_, because
the problem is caused by PPT and not by the equation-writing software.

So why is shooshx's solution unnecessary? Because MathType lets you
choose to create GIF images instead of equation objects. Create the
GIF anti-aliased, with a transparent background, and at 384dpi, then
save it. Insert it into PPT with the Insert > Picture command (not
with copy/paste), and reduce the size to 25% of the original.

If I'm creating a presentation with dozens of equations, I'm probably
going to use equation objects rather than GIFs, because it's faster.
If the quality of the equations is important though, it takes only a
few seconds longer to use the GIF method.

Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide

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