Another XP SP3 Question

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Hi,

Windows XP (Home) SP2, and it was IE7, fully updated, lots of RAM and disk
space.

I downloaded the official SP3 from Microsoft using Microsoft Update. So far
I havent had any "Operational" problems that I am aware of. It did convert
IE7 to IE6 and I was just wondering why? Can anyone say or have you heard of
others having this same reversion of IE happening?

Thanks for any Info.
 
It did convert IE7 to IE6 and I was just wondering why?

Several possibilities, including you had a "horked" install of IE7 to begin
with or you failed to disable all real-time protections before installing
SP3.

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Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
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• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3

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WinXP SP3 Installation:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsxp/cc164204.aspx

Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

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<IMHO>
Temporarily disable all real-time protections afforded by your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications, and any third-party firewall
prior to installing SP3. If you disable a third-party firewall, make sure
you then enable the Windows Firewall: The machine should not be connected to
the internet without an active firewall.

After installing SP3 /and rebooting twice/, check to make sure your
real-time protections have been re-enabled; If you disabled a third-party
firewall, remember to re-enable it and disable the Windows Firewall.
</IMHO>
 
WMB said:
Hi,

Windows XP (Home) SP2, and it was IE7, fully updated, lots of RAM and disk
space.

I downloaded the official SP3 from Microsoft using Microsoft Update. So far
I havent had any "Operational" problems that I am aware of. It did convert
IE7 to IE6 and I was just wondering why? Can anyone say or have you heard of
others having this same reversion of IE happening?

Thanks for any Info.
Click to expand...

Well, sp3 comes with IE6 with the latest security updates but it should
have downgraded to 6, so something must of gone wrong. The only thing
it should do is stop IE7 from being uninstalled by you or anybody.

Correct way to upgrade:

http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18195
 
WMB said:
Hi,

Windows XP (Home) SP2, and it was IE7, fully updated, lots of RAM and disk
space.

I downloaded the official SP3 from Microsoft using Microsoft Update. So far
I havent had any "Operational" problems that I am aware of. It did convert
IE7 to IE6 and I was just wondering why? Can anyone say or have you heard of
others having this same reversion of IE happening?

Thanks for any Info.
Click to expand...

Well, sp3 comes with IE6 with the latest security updates but it should
have downgraded to 6, so something must of gone wrong. The only thing
it should do is stop IE7 from being uninstalled by you or anybody.

Correct way to upgrade:

http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18195
 
The release notes recommend uninstalling IE7 before upgrading to SP3 anyway
so what happened is not a bad thing. You can reinstall IE7. The issue is
explained in the release notes. However, I have upgraded with IE7 already
installed and the upgrader did not uninstall IE7. You got a strange result.
 
Of historical note on Tue, 6 May 2008 21:13:24 -0600
"Colin Barnhorst" <[email protected]> scribed:

|The release notes recommend uninstalling IE7 before upgrading to SP3 anyway
|so what happened is not a bad thing. You can reinstall IE7. The issue is
|explained in the release notes. However, I have upgraded with IE7 already
|installed and the upgrader did not uninstall IE7. You got a strange result.
|
||> Hi,
|>
|> Windows XP (Home) SP2, and it was IE7, fully updated, lots of RAM and disk
|> space.
|>
|> I downloaded the official SP3 from Microsoft using Microsoft Update. So
|> far I havent had any "Operational" problems that I am aware of. It did
|> convert IE7 to IE6 and I was just wondering why? Can anyone say or have
|> you heard of others having this same reversion of IE happening?
|>
|> Thanks for any Info.
|>
|

I also installed SP3 earlier today with IE7 installed and all went quite smoothly nor was IE downgraded. So far all my programs function properly, however, I did as Colin has recommended in several threads and performed a clean boot prior to installation.
 
From:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e4057aa8c631/relnotes.htm

"If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer.

To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta version of Internet
Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP SP3.

If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
 
I don't see that as a recommendation to uninstall IE7 before installing
WinXP SP3. However, if you think you'll ever need to uninstall IE7, yes, it
would be advisable to uninstall it before installing WinXP SP3:

<QP>
If you are currently running IE7 on XPSP2, Windows Update will offer you
XPSP3 as a high priority update. If you choose to install XPSP3, Internet
Explorer 7 will remain on your system after the install is complete. Your
preferences will be retained. However, you will no longer be able to
uninstall IE7. If you go to Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs, the Remove
option will be grayed out.

This behavior is by design and here is why. When we install IE7 on Windows
XP SP2, we backup the existing IE6 files in an uninstall directory. Those
IE6 files are the ones that shipped on XPSP2 plus all the security updates
you've installed while using IE6. Windows XP SP3 contains a newer version of
the Internet Explorer 6 files. If you have XPSP3 on your system and
uninstall IE7, your system would revert to the backed up (older) version of
the IE6 files rather than the newer XPSP3 version. You would end up in a
mixed file state in Windows where most files would be the upgraded XPSP3,
except for the IE6 files restored when uninstalling IE7. This state is not
supported and is very bug prone. To ensure a reliable user experience, we
prevent this broken state by disabling the ability to uninstall Internet
Explorer 7.

If you must uninstall IE7 after you have upgraded to XPSP3, then you have to
first uninstall XPSP3, and then uninstall IE7. After this series of
uninstalls, you will be reverted back to a XPSP2, and a stable version of
IE6, so feel free to upgrade to XPSP3 again.

If you install IE7 after you install XPSP3, then you will be able to
uninstall IE7 at any point and be reverted to the newer IE6 version that
ships in XPSP3. The restriction on uninstalling only applies to when you
install a Windows Service Pack release on top of a standalone IE release.

Keeping this in mind, you might want to uninstall IE7, upgrade to XPSP3 and
then install IE7 again so you can uninstall IE7 in the future if need be.
</QP>
Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

This is the usual practice for MS: If IE6 is installed in, e.g., Win2K SP4
and it was installed prior to installing SP4, you must uninstall SP4 before
you'll be able to uninstall IE6.
 
I would think that IE8 beta testers would be the important audience anyway
since they are supposed to plan on uninstalling the beta each time a new
release is to be installed.
 
Just to update 2 things, SP3 would not install for me after stopping all
programs on startup. I enabled everything, re-installed and it installed
fine. Although when first checking, IE7 had reverted to IE6. After a day
its back to IE7 with no help from me.
 
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