Aministrator Required - I DON"T THINK SO!!!

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Lester Stiefel

Just installed Windows Vista. Upon trying to use
windows update and Microsoft update, I get a 0x** error,
claiming I do not have admin rights. I have disabled User
account protection, and am proceeding to down load these
manually.

Is this your answer to security. Keep this up and I'll
defect to Linux. At least I know what to expect there!!
 
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Is this your answer to security. Keep this up and I'll defect to Linux. At
least I know what to expect there!!
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Don't let the door knob hit you on the way out.
 
Lester Stiefel said:
Just installed Windows Vista. Upon trying to use windows update and
Microsoft update, I get a 0x** error, claiming I do not have admin rights.
I have disabled User account protection, and am proceeding to down load
these manually.

Is this your answer to security. Keep this up and I'll defect to Linux. At
least I know what to expect there!!
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Lester Stiefel
In Romans 1 there are qualities of Unregenerate man listed which describe
him in the last days.
Is your quality found on this list??
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Go ahead & defect, then wait for the root logon popup when it's needed.
The answer to your problem is to turn UAC back on.
 
Go to Linux then.
Most software exists for Windows, so you will be losing out.
I live Vista.
G
 
Just installed Windows Vista. Upon trying to use
windows update and Microsoft update, I get a 0x** error,
claiming I do not have admin rights. I have disabled User
account protection, and am proceeding to down load these
manually.

Is this your answer to security. Keep this up and I'll
defect to Linux. At least I know what to expect there!!
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So you run as root on Linux???
You would get the same behavior
Brian
 
Brian said:
So you run as root on Linux???
You would get the same behavior
Brian
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In no way. In linux you are required to use a totally
different user account, which cannot be accessed from a
standard users account, aside from the traditional log out
of standard user, and log on to administrative (root) to
perform this function.

In my case the UAC said I had Administrative rights, when
the account was actually a 'standard user' type. This is an
apparent glitch In uac. I would prefer that the admin rights
not be able to be accessed from the standard user account.

It was only after I created a second account, and made it
the admin (root) type, that I had access to update service.
Check that out. Normally the user, if they are the only one
on the PC running VISTA, should NOT have to use dual
accounts... All kinds of leaks and errors can result from
the access through standard UI account. It only makes good
sense to require logout of 'standard user' and log in to
'roots' through the opening screen.
 
Actually you can run applications in nix as an admin in a standard user
account. You can elevate your privileges via the cmd shell, then run the
app. Some distributions do the same as windows and prompt you to log in to
run as root via a prompt in the gui as well for admin tasks.

Admin rights or tasks are not available to a standard user in Vista without
logging in via UAC or logging in as the super admin (hidden default acct).
So if you setup a standard user in Vista, they will not be able to do any
admin tasks without a admin user/pass.

Dan
 
Lester said:
In no way. In linux you are required to use a totally different user
account,
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No. You can log in as root all the time - there is no requirement to
ever use or create a normal user account.
which cannot be accessed from a standard users account, aside
from the traditional log out of standard user, and log on to
administrative (root) to perform this function.
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Err... the normal, traditional, way to do things is to use sudo. You
should *never* log in as root on a Linux box (unless you're
exceptionally lazy). It took Microsoft almost 30 years to copy sudo but
it seems they got there in the end. The result is UAC.
In my case the UAC said I had Administrative rights, when the account
was actually a 'standard user' type. This is an apparent glitch In uac.
I would prefer that the admin rights not be able to be accessed from the
standard user account.
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Then set it in your group policy.
It was only after I created a second account, and made it the admin
(root) type, that I had access to update service. Check that out.
Normally the user, if they are the only one on the PC running VISTA,
should NOT have to use dual accounts... All kinds of leaks and errors
can result from the access through standard UI account.
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I think you need a better understanding of how Windows works internally,
and how windows messages are processed in Vista, to make that assessment.

Alun Harford
 
Lester Stiefel said:
Just installed Windows Vista. Upon trying to use windows update and
Microsoft update, I get a 0x** error, claiming I do not have admin rights.
I have disabled User account protection, and am proceeding to down load
these manually.

Is this your answer to security. Keep this up and I'll defect to Linux. At
least I know what to expect there!!
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You ran off to Linux once before from XP, didn't you, and then came running
back? I remember your posts about this in windowsxp.general.

Why turn off UAC? I have it on and have no problems with updates from
windows updates.

Is the error actually 0x** or is that short for something. When does this
error appear. What is the verbatim text?
 
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