AMD64 3500+(939) versus AMD64 3200+(939) Winchester Core Price Gap

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I was wondering if someone has some understanding why the AMD 3500+
Winchester Core 939 pin is approximately $300US while the 3200+
Winchester Core 939 is closer to $200US? This is a rather large price
gap for the performance difference.

Are there some inherent features or capabilities with the multiplier or
other internals that justify the nearly 50% price premium for the 3500+
with respect to only a 10% core processor speed bump (2.0 GHz on the
3200+ and 2.2 GHz on the 3500+)?

Other factors?

Thanks in advance.
 
I was wondering if someone has some understanding why the AMD 3500+
Winchester Core 939 pin is approximately $300US while the 3200+
Winchester Core 939 is closer to $200US? This is a rather large price
gap for the performance difference.

Are there some inherent features or capabilities with the multiplier or
other internals that justify the nearly 50% price premium for the 3500+
with respect to only a 10% core processor speed bump (2.0 GHz on the
3200+ and 2.2 GHz on the 3500+)?

Other factors?

Thanks in advance.
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Look at it from a system cost standpoint. If you look at the cost of a
system the price difference is less than 10%. Example, I've been pricing a
3500+ system at Newegg. The total system cost is $1278, the sample system
with a 3200+ would cost $1190, that's less than 10% more expensive for a
10% increase in performance.


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I was wondering if someone has some understanding why the AMD 3500+
Winchester Core 939 pin is approximately $300US while the 3200+
Winchester Core 939 is closer to $200US? This is a rather large price
gap for the performance difference.

Are there some inherent features or capabilities with the multiplier or
other internals that justify the nearly 50% price premium for the 3500+
with respect to only a 10% core processor speed bump (2.0 GHz on the
3200+ and 2.2 GHz on the 3500+)?

Other factors?

Thanks in advance.
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The usual procedure is for companies to pay top dollar while
enthusiasts buy the lower multiplier models and overclock with a good
motherboard.

Take your pick.
 
Look at it from a system cost standpoint. If you look at the cost of a
system the price difference is less than 10%. Example, I've been pricing a
3500+ system at Newegg. The total system cost is $1278, the sample system
with a 3200+ would cost $1190, that's less than 10% more expensive for a
10% increase in performance.
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nah, you're paying a 50% premium for a 10% gain in processor speed, which
is, as you well know, only one factor in overall system performance. Bang
for buck wise, that's a terrible ROI.
 
If you're looking for the best deal get a Semipron .. if you want the best
CPU get a 939.
 
General Schvantzkoph said:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:53:37 +0000, p00lb0y wrote:
Look at it from a system cost standpoint. If you look at the cost of a
system the price difference is less than 10%. Example, I've been pricing a
3500+ system at Newegg. The total system cost is $1278, the sample system
with a 3200+ would cost $1190, that's less than 10% more expensive for a
10% increase in performance.
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What nonsense. Why don't you include the cost of your desk too, and you chair and why not your car? Then the percentage is going to be smaller than one percent. It's completely pointless. We are comparing the price of the processor and it's performance. 50 percent more expensive for only 10 percent more performance. That's the deal!
 
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