AMD 64 vs Pentium 4 for Video Encoding who wins ?

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Ifs its the P4 does it win by much as i don't want to get a P4 :)

Thanks.
 
The P4 wins

check out toms hardware/other review sites, they all concur

I'll stick with my AMD 3400 64 bit though thanks :¬p

Gaming is more important ;¬)

Sean
 
We Live for the One we Die for the One said:
Ifs its the P4 does it win by much as i don't want to get a P4 :)

Thanks.
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If you check out almost all encoding software you
well see that they are optimized for the P4's features.

I still use AMD.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is the last time
I'll reply to one of your Mega-crosspostings.

Ken
 
i think so.

pRot3us said:
The P4 wins

check out toms hardware/other review sites, they all concur

I'll stick with my AMD 3400 64 bit though thanks :¬p

Gaming is more important ;?

Sean
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pRot3us typed:
The P4 wins

check out toms hardware/other review sites, they all concur

I'll stick with my AMD 3400 64 bit though thanks :¬p

Gaming is more important ;¬)

Sean
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Was that test made with 64-bit version of XP? Is P4 also 64 bit? If not, you
can't compare really, since for AMD you must test with 64 bit XP, while if
P4 is 32 bit, you can't test it with 64 bit XP.
 
Ifs its the P4 does it win by much as i don't want to get a P4 :)
Thanks.
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I do a lot of video editing on my AMD XP 3000+, and while I do think a
Pentium (of equal speed) is slightly better, I honestly don't think it
will ever make a difference unless you're using a stopwatch. I click
"go" and walk away from my computer for 20 minutes. If it were instead
18 minutes I doubt I'd even notice.
 
Okay this is coming from an AMD-biased guy because I run an FX-51.

I'm thinking if you are on no budget then yes, the fastest PC you can build
for video editing would be a Pentium-based system, using the P4 Extreme
Edition -- just BARELY faster than an FX-53 for video editing is what I've
seen so far in benchmarks. For now, while running a 32-bit OS.

However, if you are on a budget and are comparing dollar-for-dollar what you
can build that would do the fastest video editing AND if you play games,
then I think an AMD 64-based system would be a smarter buy.

Here is why:

The P4EE (on newegg.com) right now is $989 for the 3.4ghz CPU (oem).
You can get an FX-53 for $799 (oem) OR you can get an FX-51 for $700 (oem)
and overclock it to FX-51 speed easily.
I believe the FX-53 runs just a HAIR slower than the P4EE for video editing
and bonus, it beats the P4EE in most everything else.

If you go Intel, you make up your $ loss just a bit with the motherboard as
the i875P chipset motherboards appear to be slightly cheaper than the 940pin
ones you need for AMD64s, but only around $50.

So... save $150 or save $250 and then another bonus is down the road when/if
you get a 64-bit OS, you'll have a CPU that can run it. Another bonus is
these AMD 64-bit processors need only run at 2.2 and 2.4 ghz to create the
computing power Intel CPUs need 3.4+ ghz to generate, which for one thing
means less heat is generated. They run cool! With stock cooling on my FX-51
all I had to do was increase the multiplier from 11 to 12 and voila I have a
stable running FX-51 at FX-53 speeds.

Take the $100 or $200 you saved on the processor and get a badass
motherboard or super fast RAM or faster hard drive. If you are going to do
video editing, you can never have enough RAM.

There is my biased two cents :)

Scott
 
We said:
Ifs its the P4 does it win by much as i don't want to get a P4 :)

Thanks.
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Depends on the encoding app.

If you use something like XMpeg that uses SSE2 on AMD64,
then AMD64 wins by a substantial margin. Adobe's
encoder in their video suite also does much better on
AMD64 - at least when you put a dual Opty 246 (2 GHz)
up against a dual 3 GHz Xeon.

If you use crapware like TMpegEnc that doesn't recognize
that AMD64 can do SSE2, then the P4 wins.
 
Ifs its the P4 does it win by much as i don't want to get a P4 :)

Thanks.
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Stop trolling. You keep asking these straw-man questions which are
obviously intended to put the P4 in a good light. But in answer to
your question, video encoding is one of the few remaining areas where
the P4 performs well compared to the current AMD Athlons.
 
If you use crapware like TMpegEnc that doesn't recognize
that AMD64 can do SSE2, then the P4 wins.
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TMPGEnc has enable SSE2 ticked on my AMD64 mate. In fact the only thing not
enabled is SSE3, for obvious reasons.
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Les
AMD64 3200+
2x512 MB corsair platinum 3500
Gigabyte GA-K8VNXP
Herc 9700 Pro
SB Audigy
 
Les said:
TMPGEnc has enable SSE2 ticked on my AMD64 mate. In fact the only thing not
enabled is SSE3, for obvious reasons.
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Hmmm. I've tried it on an Opty 246 dualie and it doesn't
recognize the processors as SSE or SSE2 capable, whereas
everything else seems to do just fine in that regard.
 
Rob Stow said:
Hmmm. I've tried it on an Opty 246 dualie and it doesn't
recognize the processors as SSE or SSE2 capable, whereas
everything else seems to do just fine in that regard.
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Perhaps it don't like the opterons? the new express version 3 might do it?
 
Les said:
Perhaps it don't like the opterons? the new express version 3 might do it?
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I went over this afternoon and played with it for a while
(it belongs to a friend - beyond my budget). Turns out
that with only one cpu on the motherboard SSE2 works, but
with both procs in there, TMpegEnc detects neither SSE or SSE2.
Motherboard is a Tyan S2885. I've e-mailed someone with
dual Opties on an MSI motherboard to ask him if he has similar
results. Can't imagine it would make a difference because I
think that version of the MSI board uses the same chipset as
the S2885.
 
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