Alternatives for Knoppix lovers

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mark R. Blain
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Mark R. Blain wrote in said:
Here's a couple lists of bootable Linux CDs, found via a recent item
at www.lockergnome.com (thanks!). I had no idea there were so many.
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=cd

Great, thanks! via the first link above I found (not tried):

LinuxDefender Live! CD launched at LinuxConf 2003
<http://www.bitdefender.com/bd/site/presscenter.php?menu_id=25&n_id=58>

<quote>
This distribution contains two world premieres: the world's first ever
SAMBA 3 compatible commercial antivirus and FULL NTFS write support -
available using the captive NTFS write project. You can use it to
access Windows partitions. LinuxDefender Live! integrates the latest
BitDefender for Linux security solution into the GNU/Linux Knoppix
Live CD distribution.
</quote>

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Bjorn said:
I noticed, aborted d/l after time-out, will try later. Btw, since you
have tried it, how about the AV part, updating signature files - how
is it done? Online only? or possible to download and insert update
disk the when running it. (no - I have not read the manual yet, if
exist - not found, nor searched for one yet either :).

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

Bjorn,

The updating of the AV definition files is done automatically. Just
after you boot off the CD and before the Desktop is loaded,
LinuxDefender connects to the Internet and downloads the latest AV
Definition Files. You can also click on the WebAdmin icon on the
desktop to manually launch the AV definition LiveUpdate program but YOU
do not need to do it. (Note read the intro screen once the Desktop is
loaded. It will tell you how to logon to the WebAdmin program)

In other words, you do NOT have to do ANYTHING to have the latest AV
definition files downloaded. Pretty neat!

But if you want to have read-write NTFS support for the AV program or
ANY program, you must manually click on the INSTALL NTFS DRIVERS icon.
(I suspect that this manual install approach is to avoid licensing issues).

You can do a manual AV scan with the BitDefender AV program but be
warned!! It is VERY VERY slow. I have never seen such a slow AV scanner!

But in an emergency, this Linux Defender LiveCD might come in handy. It
will boot a clean OS and automatically download the latest AV definition
files.

I am also surprised to see so many KNOPPIX trademarks appearing during
the boot up of this LinuxDefender LiveCD. (Even the Desktop background
says KNOPPIX!) It makes you wonder who made this CD. Maybe a good case
for trade-mark infringement can be made here!

Another option is SystemRescueCD, another Linux LiveCD. It uses CLAM
AV. But I cannot get the AV Definition Live Update feature to work. Pity!

Rob

P.S. I am using LinuxDefender (and Mozilla v 1.5) right now when
composing this message. I had to refresh my memory on how it worked.
 
Bjorn said:
Great, thanks! via the first link above I found (not tried):

LinuxDefender Live! CD launched at LinuxConf 2003
<http://www.bitdefender.com/bd/site/presscenter.php?menu_id=25&n_id=58>

<quote>
This distribution contains two world premieres: the world's first ever
SAMBA 3 compatible commercial antivirus and FULL NTFS write support -
available using the captive NTFS write project. You can use it to
access Windows partitions. LinuxDefender Live! integrates the latest
BitDefender for Linux security solution into the GNU/Linux Knoppix
Live CD distribution.
</quote>

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

I have tried Linux Defender. It is great. It is eassentially Knoppix with
NTFS read-write support using Captive plus the BitDefender AntiVirus
program.

I don't know why Knoppix has not added NTFS read-write suppport using
Captive....

Rob
 
Rob wrote in said:
I have tried Linux Defender. It is great. It is eassentially Knoppix with
NTFS read-write support using Captive plus the BitDefender AntiVirus
program.

Thanks, good know it actually works - before d/l it :)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Bjorn said:
Thanks, good know it actually works - before d/l it :)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

I think your challenge will be downloading it. The main server is slow and
I don't think there are many (if any) mirrors.

Rob

P.S. LinuxDefender is based on an older version of knoppix 3.3. It still
uses an older kernel.
 
Rob wrote in said:
I think your challenge will be downloading it. The main server is slow and
I don't think there are many (if any) mirrors.

I noticed, aborted d/l after time-out, will try later. Btw, since you
have tried it, how about the AV part, updating signature files - how
is it done? Online only? or possible to download and insert update
disk the when running it. (no - I have not read the manual yet, if
exist - not found, nor searched for one yet either :).

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Rob wrote in said:
The updating of the AV definition files is done automatically. Just
after you boot off the CD and before the Desktop is loaded,
LinuxDefender connects to the Internet and downloads the latest AV
Definition Files. You can also click on the WebAdmin icon on the
desktop to manually launch the AV definition LiveUpdate program but YOU
do not need to do it. (Note read the intro screen once the Desktop is
loaded. It will tell you how to logon to the WebAdmin program)

Ah, thank you very much for explaining. Very nice to learn what to
expect from someone that have had some first hand experience with the
software.
In other words, you do NOT have to do ANYTHING to have the latest AV
definition files downloaded. Pretty neat!

Yes pretty neat. Only minus is for anyone with no or a very slow
online connection. But maybe offline updating is possible somehow
anyway, by way of some "low level" tweaking of configurations etc.
Don't know.

Tried to brows <www.bitdefender.com> but I was unable to find relevant
info. Site looks nice, but I for one did not even notice they have a
knowledge base there, until Dan Rather
(in <posted a link to an article there (after I suggested the Linuxdefender
Cd to him in another thread, subject: Bart's PE Builder Question).
But if you want to have read-write NTFS support for the AV program or
ANY program, you must manually click on the INSTALL NTFS DRIVERS icon.
(I suspect that this manual install approach is to avoid licensing issues).

Yes that makes sense. Opt in instead of opt out.

Finally got my hands on the iso file now, large download - 515 MB.
Opened the iso with Winrar and extracted the Docs directory and
index.html to browse in Windows before burning CD.

(just needed to do some simple search/replace in index.html first,
replacing
href="/cdrom/Docs/
with
href="Docs/
in my case)
You can do a manual AV scan with the BitDefender AV program but be
warned!! It is VERY VERY slow. I have never seen such a slow AV scanner!

Looks like I will never know, unless I get XP. You see I have Win2k
here - no XP, but according to the index file I need XP:

<qoute>
NTFS write support is available using the captive NTFS write
project. You need two driver files from your Windows
installation: ntoskrnl.exe and ntfs.sys. Currently, only Windows
XP drivers are supported. Note that you can use them to access
Windows 2000/NT/2003 partitions too.
But in an emergency, this Linux Defender LiveCD might come in handy. It
will boot a clean OS and automatically download the latest AV definition
files.

Yes that is what makes it interesting for a Windows/ntfs user like my
self. To bad I can not use it with Win2k. Same problem as with Bart'S
PE builder, needs (files from) either XP or Win2003.
I am also surprised to see so many KNOPPIX trademarks appearing during
the boot up of this LinuxDefender LiveCD. (Even the Desktop background
says KNOPPIX!) It makes you wonder who made this CD. Maybe a good case
for trade-mark infringement can be made here!

Don't think so given the GNU/Linux licence .The index.html also makes
it clear what the LinuxDefender CD is built on/from:

"LinuxDefender Live! is a BitDefender re-mastered Knoppix
distribution which integrates the latest BitDefender for Linux
security solution into the GNU/Linux Knoppix Live CD [...]"
Another option is SystemRescueCD, another Linux LiveCD. It uses CLAM
AV. But I cannot get the AV Definition Live Update feature to work. Pity!

Thanks, will have a look later. Have seen it announced here (fw by
Gordon Darling) but not looked into it yet.
P.S. I am using LinuxDefender (and Mozilla v 1.5) right now when
composing this message. I had to refresh my memory on how it worked.

Cool! And thanks for taking the time, diving into it again! :)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Rob said:
I don't know why Knoppix has not added NTFS read-write suppport using
Captive....

It's in the 3.4 c't edition and will of course be in the final 3.4,
supposedly to be released in another two weeks.
 
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