AIW 9600Xt and KT133: no video

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Has anyone tried AIW 9600XT on a KT133 (KT7-RAID)? I installed it and used
it for about an hour. I shutdown the system and restarted it about an hour
later. No video, but 3 beeps on startup. After hours of trying various
BIOS setting, I had to re-install my old Geforce2 Personal Cinema.
 
Wabbit said:
Has anyone tried AIW 9600XT on a KT133 (KT7-RAID)? I installed it and used
it for about an hour. I shutdown the system and restarted it about an hour
later. No video, but 3 beeps on startup. After hours of trying various
BIOS setting, I had to re-install my old Geforce2 Personal Cinema.
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You just said it, Wabbit. You had to "re-install my old Geforce2 Personal
Cinema." So you had that on your system before. Did you do a thorough
driver clean as well as uninstall the card and software? FWIW ATi, NVidia
and other manufacturers have very inadequate uninstall routines for their
drivers and software: both files and registry entries are left, which don't
necessarily interfere with upgrades but can be a serious problem when
downgrading, and even more so when changing to different makes of card.

It frequently makes for responses like yours. Many people have hypothesised
that the manufacturers find this useful to enforce brand loyalty. I
wouldn't know about that, but you do need a proper uninstall and a thorough
system clean when changing cards.

HTH patrickp
 
Has anyone tried AIW 9600XT on a KT133 (KT7-RAID)? I installed it and
used
You just said it, Wabbit. You had to "re-install my old Geforce2 Personal
Cinema." So you had that on your system before. Did you do a thorough
driver clean as well as uninstall the card and software? FWIW ATi, NVidia
and other manufacturers have very inadequate uninstall routines for their
drivers and software: both files and registry entries are left, which don't
necessarily interfere with upgrades but can be a serious problem when
downgrading, and even more so when changing to different makes of card.

It frequently makes for responses like yours. Many people have hypothesised
that the manufacturers find this useful to enforce brand loyalty. I
wouldn't know about that, but you do need a proper uninstall and a thorough
system clean when changing cards.
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Um....3 beeps at POST rarely have anything to do with leftover Windows
drivers.
 
Um....3 beeps at POST rarely have anything to do with leftover Windows
drivers.
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Eh, forget that. Just realized that the OP has fiddled with the BIOS,
supposedly after the problem started. Guess he has POST and basic video
after all.
 
isnt the KT133 a 3.3volt agp slot?..and if so the AIW9600 a 1.5 volt AGP
card?..if this is the case...can you maybe say fried?
 
Dirk Dreidoppel said:
Eh, forget that. Just realized that the OP has fiddled with the BIOS,
supposedly after the problem started. Guess he has POST and basic video
after all.
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Yes, but you're right about it not actually being a driver problem, then,
Dirk.

patrickp
 
Yes, but you're right about it not actually being a driver problem, then,
Dirk.

patrickp
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Yeah. It's not a driver problem. The card fails to work when my system is
cold booted. If i leave my pc on, no problem.

http://forums.pimprig.com/archive/topic/2242-1.html

I read about increasing voltages, changing power supplies, etc...I even
read one guy soldered a power line to agp socket....

Did anyone out there find out the actual fix? Besides replacing the
motherboard? I hate to have to buy a newer mobo and RAM. I have 512MB
now.

Wabbit
 
isnt the KT133 a 3.3volt agp slot?..and if so the AIW9600 a 1.5 volt AGP
card?..if this is the case...can you maybe say fried?
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KT133 should support up to AGP 4X. It should be able supply 3,3 V and 1,5 V.
I have an Apollo Pro 133A myself, butthat's more or less the same as a
KT133, just for Pentium 3 instead of Athlon. My 9600 XT is fine with my
chipset.
 
Yeah. It's not a driver problem. The card fails to work when my system
is
cold booted. If i leave my pc on, no problem.

http://forums.pimprig.com/archive/topic/2242-1.html

I read about increasing voltages, changing power supplies, etc...I even
read one guy soldered a power line to agp socket....

Did anyone out there find out the actual fix? Besides replacing the
motherboard? I hate to have to buy a newer mobo and RAM. I have 512MB
now.
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It might be a problem with the power supply. The power supply has to deal
with maximum load on a cold boot, since it has to power everything up, spin
up the HDs, etc., all at once. You card might not get enough power at that
point. How many W does your PSU have ?
 
300 W

Yup, that could not be enough, especially if it's exceptionally weak on one
of the rails. I have a 300 W too, but I only run P3, although dual CPUs.
Athlons want a bit more power. You really might have a power shortage during
a cold boot.
 
Yup, that could not be enough, especially if it's exceptionally weak
on one of the rails. You really might have a power shortage during a cold
boot.
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I just tried a Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480W. Same problem so I do no
think it is the power supply (I really didn't thionk so either since other
reports ruled it out as well. I think that if I leave pc on for about 5
minutes, then re-boot...I can get my system started. Why didn't ATI get it
right?
 
I just tried a Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480W. Same problem so I do no
think it is the power supply (I really didn't thionk so either since other
reports ruled it out as well. I think that if I leave pc on for about 5
minutes, then re-boot...I can get my system started. Why didn't ATI get it
right?
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I'm out of ideas....
But I'm quite sure it isn't the fault of Ati.
 
Quite right your agp slot is wrong for the card you are trying to run o(
http://www.ertyu.org/~steven_nikkel/agpcompatibility.html

regards

@ndrew
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Interesting.

Abit KT7-RAID has AGP 2.0

AGP 2.0 Specification (PDF file)

Modes
1x (266Mbps) (8 bytes per two clock cycles)
2x (533Mbps) (8 bytes per clock cycle)
4x (1.07Gbps) (16 bytes per clock cycle)

Connectors
AGP 3.3v keyed
AGP 1.5v keyed
AGP UNIVERSAL (supports both 3.3v and 1.5v cards)

My Visiontek v.Everything appears to be an Universal AGP Card which works.

What AGP spec does the ATI AIW 9600xt conform to? Does not appear to be
backward compatible with AGP 2.0 spec? Does it only meet AGP 3.0 spec? If
so, ATI should indicate the exact specifications. Not 1.5V AGP 4x slot.

Wabbit
 
Dirk Dreidoppel wrote:

Btw., you'll want to watch what kind of links you post. I opened the
site, the site opened a pop-up, next thing I know is a virus alert
from McAfee. Thank you.
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No virus alert on my scanner .. anyone else?

regards

@ndrew
 
What AGP spec does the ATI AIW 9600xt conform to? Does not appear to be
backward compatible with AGP 2.0 spec? Does it only meet AGP 3.0 spec? If
so, ATI should indicate the exact specifications. Not 1.5V AGP 4x slot.
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It should work on your board, unless something is fundamentally different in
the architecture of a regular 9600 XT (my card) or an AIW 9600 XT (your
card).
 
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