AGP Staus disabled

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George Hester

Hi. I have a Hewlett-Packeard HP Vectra VL400 motherboard. It is a PIIIE
800 MHz (6 x 133) CPU. I have an application called AIDA32 - Personal
System Information made by Tamas Miklos which I do not think is available
anymore on the Net. Anyway here is my issue.

AIDA32 allows me to inspect the AGP Status under the Chipset menu item. And
it says "Disabled." I have AIDA32 in another of my machines and that
section says "Enabled." So what's up? Can I fix this on the HP? Thanks.
 
"George Hester" said:
Hi. I have a Hewlett-Packeard HP Vectra VL400 motherboard. It is a PIIIE
800 MHz (6 x 133) CPU. I have an application called AIDA32 - Personal
System Information made by Tamas Miklos which I do not think is available
anymore on the Net. Anyway here is my issue.

AIDA32 allows me to inspect the AGP Status under the Chipset menu item. And
it says "Disabled." I have AIDA32 in another of my machines and that
section says "Enabled." So what's up? Can I fix this on the HP? Thanks.
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This user manual says it has built-in graphics or you can use
an AGP graphics card. I would first check to see exactly how
your machine is configured, and check how the graphics
are being generated. The VGA connector on the back of
the computer case, would be using the built-in graphics,
while if the VGA connector was on one of the I/O slot covers,
it is coming from an AGP or PCI card.

http://search.hp.com/redirect.html?...6498/lpv06498.pdf?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN&pos=8

The chipset on the board is Intel 815 and the Southbridge
is ICH. PDF page 20 of the user manual shows a block diagram.

The continuation of AIDA32 is available here for download:

"EVEREST Free Edition 2.20" - (originating site = lavalys.com)
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

Paul
 
George said:
Hi. I have a Hewlett-Packeard HP Vectra VL400 motherboard. It is a PIIIE
800 MHz (6 x 133) CPU. I have an application called AIDA32 - Personal
System Information made by Tamas Miklos which I do not think is available
anymore on the Net. Anyway here is my issue.

AIDA32 allows me to inspect the AGP Status under the Chipset menu item. And
it says "Disabled." I have AIDA32 in another of my machines and that
section says "Enabled." So what's up? Can I fix this on the HP? Thanks.
Click to expand...

Any Symptoms?
 
Paul said:
This user manual says it has built-in graphics or you can use
an AGP graphics card. I would first check to see exactly how
your machine is configured, and check how the graphics
are being generated. The VGA connector on the back of
the computer case, would be using the built-in graphics,
while if the VGA connector was on one of the I/O slot covers,
it is coming from an AGP or PCI card.

http://search.hp.com/redirect.html?type=REG&qt=VL400+motherboard+agp&url=htt
p%3A//h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/lpv06498/lpv06498.pdf
%3Fjumpid%3Dreg_R1002_USEN&pos=8

The chipset on the board is Intel 815 and the Southbridge
is ICH. PDF page 20 of the user manual shows a block diagram.

The continuation of AIDA32 is available here for download:

"EVEREST Free Edition 2.20" - (originating site = lavalys.com)
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

Paul
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Hi Paul I see I should have provided more information. The video card I
have installed is an ATI All-In-Wonder Pro card AGP interface. That is what
the monitor is hooked up to. So even though AIDA32 says the AGP is disabled
I can still see "stuff" on the monitor.

And yes there is a new "update" to AIDA32 but it is no longer "free" or
wasn't the last time I looked. Also I think there is an issue installing it
in a server.
 
Any Symptoms?
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No none that I have noticed. Just don't like "disabled" in the info from
AIDA32. I'm assuming AIDA32 is correct and my AGP is disabled and I'd like
to "enable" it. Maybe it doesn't mean anything...don't know that's why I
asked.
 
No none that I have noticed. Just don't like "disabled" in the info from
AIDA32. I'm assuming AIDA32 is correct and my AGP is disabled and I'd like
to "enable" it. Maybe it doesn't mean anything...don't know that's why I
asked.
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I wouldn't worry about it, then.
 
"George Hester" said:
No none that I have noticed. Just don't like "disabled" in the info from
AIDA32. I'm assuming AIDA32 is correct and my AGP is disabled and I'd like
to "enable" it. Maybe it doesn't mean anything...don't know that's why I
asked.
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To enable AGP, you need the AGP miniport, which is part
of the chipset drivers. When I install a new video card,
I use the chipset drivers, the ATI Catalyst driver,
and the latest DirectX from Microsoft. (Always being careful
to uninstall the video card drivers from the previous
card, just before shutting down and installing a new card.)

If you want another utility to play with, there is
Powerstrip from Entechtaiwan.com . It is trialware, and
I think it will run for 30 days without complaining.
When installed, it will create an icon on the task bar.
Right clicking the icon, gives a popup menu with an
item called Options. That Window will show the status of
your AGP slot. Powerstrip can override some problems, but
in the past, I used it mainly for that status window.

An AGP slot on an Intel chipset, can offer two kinds of
driver installs. The AGP slot can use an AGP driver or
a PCI driver (as AGP uses PCI protocol as part of the
suite of hardware protocols used). If you were to manually
update the AGP device with the Intel PCI driver, then the AGP
is disabled. If you are missing a driver altogether, then
the AGP would presumably also be disabled. But then the
ATI driver would likely not install, without something
being present. I have used the PCI driver trick, in trying
to get an AGP card working on a system, so I have flipped
it back and forth between AGP/PCI. To do that, you get the
ZIP version of the Intel chipset drivers, and have a look
in the appropriate chipset folders.

There is a picture of the Powerstrip options window here:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpfix/agpfix.html
http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpfix/powerstrip2.gif

Have a look with Powerstrip and see what it reports.
Also, have a look in your Device Manager. In the
815 datasheet, the AGP device looks to have enumeration
info of 8086/1131 hex, and maybe AIDA shows that for the
AGP. The built in graphics should be 8086/1132 hex.
Sometimes there can be two PCI bridges, and when messing
with the AGP/PCI trick, it is easy to get confused about
which PCI bridge you are playing with. The 815 datasheet
is here, and the AGP Device is on page 86. This doc won't
do you much good, but sometimes if I'm looking in Everest
at some hardware IDs, the numbers in the spec come in
handy.

ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/29835102.pdf

Paul
 
No none that I have noticed. Just don't like "disabled" in the info from
AIDA32. I'm assuming AIDA32 is correct and my AGP is disabled and I'd like
to "enable" it. Maybe it doesn't mean anything...don't know that's why I
asked.
Click to expand...


AIDA is a generic tool, it does not know your motherboard
and is not a valid reason to wonder and try to change
anything. Its best use is to gather more information if you
had already observed a problem.

AGP is a port. It cannot be disabled and have a working
video card connected through it.

IF instead of looking at AIDA, and completely 100%
forgetting that you had ever ran it at all, you suspected
you had a video problem, you would need to isolate when that
problem occurs. If you felt the performance was slow for
example, you'd need a baseline, a common benchmark to run
and compare relative results, or whatever else applied.
"Enabled" or "Disabled" are only words, text labels and not
trustworthy because of the inherant nature of such
declarations, that one of the two has to be the default
value unless a query is returned to change it, and whether
that query is successfull has everything to do with the age
of the software and technology of the motherboard. In
short, it's not useful to use it the way you are.
 
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