again! - record direct to mpeg video ?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Andy
  • Start date Start date
A

Andy

I apologise for posting again but i didn't get too much help with my last
post. I would like software which will allow to record from my TV Card
direct to mpeg (SVCD or VCD quality), so i can burn to CDR through Nero.

Cheers
Andy
 
Andy said:
I apologise for posting again but i didn't get too much help with my last
post. I would like software which will allow to record from my TV Card
direct to mpeg (SVCD or VCD quality), so i can burn to CDR through Nero.
Click to expand...

You can't: software encoders are far too slow to compress video to MPG
in real time. That's why you need a hardware encoder, or capture as
uncompressed AVI and convert to MPG later (not during capture).
 
I apologise for posting again but i didn't get too much help with my last
post. I would like software which will allow to record from my TV Card
direct to mpeg (SVCD or VCD quality), so i can burn to CDR through Nero.

Cheers
Andy
Click to expand...

Hi Andy,
Your question is not a simple one. In your previous post you mentioned
that your card resolutions were "96X72icon, 192X144QCIF, 320X240,
352X288, 384X288CIF, 768X576FULL." Those will likely be the only
resolutions you'll be able to record to through that particular
device. The hardware is wired and there is no getting around it.

Recording:
Here's a list of the freeware I've been able to find that may suite
your requirements [PAL SVCD standard (for the UK): 25fps at 480x576]
---Virtualdub http://www.virtualdub.org/index freeware, will only
record the resolutions your hardware allows, no mpeg.
---MoveXone http://www.neverexpires.com/software/details.asp?Index=687
freeware, large download, most sophisticated option, again only at
hardware resolution. I'm also not sure if it can use all available
codecs.
---ABC Video Roll http://www.sover.net/~whoi/MMedia.html Registerware!
I couldn't get this one to work with the serial provided and it isn't
real pretty, ymmv.
--DScaler http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/ freeware, from the FAQ
"Can I record video to my hard disk with DScaler?
Sort of. DScaler now handles basic recording and playback of
specifically-formatted AVI files using a compression codec of your
choice." So maybe if you have an mpeg codec on your machine?
---Since you'll probably only be able to record at hardware
resolutions anyway you may want to use the software provided with your
Pinnacle hardware.

Editing:
---Tmpgenc http://www.tmpgenc.net/ has a free 30 day trial and then is
shareware so it is somewhat OT. However, for tmpgenc try this link to
a tutorial.
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/articles/tmpgenc_vcd.html#crop
You'll need to crop the image to the desired PAL SVCD and then encode
to mpeg for SVCD. You'll then be able, if Nero approves, burn to
cdrw. The cropping scheme will have to be a choice of aesthetics.

Tutorials:
-o-DVDRHelp SVCDHelp http://www.dvdrhelp.com/convert a comprehensive
list of applications and how to use them. Go to the link above and
then scroll a little less than half way down the page for the SVCD
listings. The site has many tutorials and tips on how to get going
with your computer vcr so take a look around.

I'm glad you asked this question. I'll have to do this very thing for
a project I'm playing with and I wasn't too sure myself. Just good
timing.
 
Thank you, your post was really helpful, thanks for looking. I'll check out
that software within the next day or so.

Cheers
Andy


your name said:
I apologise for posting again but i didn't get too much help with my last
post. I would like software which will allow to record from my TV Card
direct to mpeg (SVCD or VCD quality), so i can burn to CDR through Nero.

Cheers
Andy
Click to expand...

Hi Andy,
Your question is not a simple one. In your previous post you mentioned
that your card resolutions were "96X72icon, 192X144QCIF, 320X240,
352X288, 384X288CIF, 768X576FULL." Those will likely be the only
resolutions you'll be able to record to through that particular
device. The hardware is wired and there is no getting around it.

Recording:
Here's a list of the freeware I've been able to find that may suite
your requirements [PAL SVCD standard (for the UK): 25fps at 480x576]
---Virtualdub http://www.virtualdub.org/index freeware, will only
record the resolutions your hardware allows, no mpeg.
---MoveXone http://www.neverexpires.com/software/details.asp?Index=687
freeware, large download, most sophisticated option, again only at
hardware resolution. I'm also not sure if it can use all available
codecs.
---ABC Video Roll http://www.sover.net/~whoi/MMedia.html Registerware!
I couldn't get this one to work with the serial provided and it isn't
real pretty, ymmv.
--DScaler http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/ freeware, from the FAQ
"Can I record video to my hard disk with DScaler?
Sort of. DScaler now handles basic recording and playback of
specifically-formatted AVI files using a compression codec of your
choice." So maybe if you have an mpeg codec on your machine?
---Since you'll probably only be able to record at hardware
resolutions anyway you may want to use the software provided with your
Pinnacle hardware.

Editing:
---Tmpgenc http://www.tmpgenc.net/ has a free 30 day trial and then is
shareware so it is somewhat OT. However, for tmpgenc try this link to
a tutorial.
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/articles/tmpgenc_vcd.html#crop
You'll need to crop the image to the desired PAL SVCD and then encode
to mpeg for SVCD. You'll then be able, if Nero approves, burn to
cdrw. The cropping scheme will have to be a choice of aesthetics.

Tutorials:
-o-DVDRHelp SVCDHelp http://www.dvdrhelp.com/convert a comprehensive
list of applications and how to use them. Go to the link above and
then scroll a little less than half way down the page for the SVCD
listings. The site has many tutorials and tips on how to get going
with your computer vcr so take a look around.

I'm glad you asked this question. I'll have to do this very thing for
a project I'm playing with and I wasn't too sure myself. Just good
timing.
Click to expand...
 
Thank you, your post was really helpful, thanks for looking. I'll check out
that software within the next day or so.

Cheers
Andy
Click to expand...

It's all right. I'm actually trying to go the other direction, VCD to
mpeg. Looking around for a cdxa to mpeg solution I've found a true
freeware VCD encoder at http://www.vcdimager.org/

It's a command line interface, but it's on topic.

Hope it helps.

--
 
Cheers, good luck then !

your name said:
It's all right. I'm actually trying to go the other direction, VCD to
mpeg. Looking around for a cdxa to mpeg solution I've found a true
freeware VCD encoder at http://www.vcdimager.org/

It's a command line interface, but it's on topic.

Hope it helps.
Click to expand...
 
As in the previous post, Andy mentioned the resolution 480x576, he
probably would like to make SVCDs, so MPEG2 compression. A free tool
(quite old?) can be found at

http://members.cox.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html
Click to expand...

Old is a relative thing isn't it? Home page is dated May 24, 2001 and
the links all appear to be out of commision. Try:

http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/for_windows/bbmpg12418.zip

or a search (watch the wrap)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=bbmpg12418.zip&btnG=Google+Search

--
 
It's all right. I'm actually trying to go the other direction, VCD to
mpeg. Looking around for a cdxa to mpeg solution I've found a true
freeware VCD encoder at http://www.vcdimager.org/

It's a command line interface, but it's on topic.

Hope it helps.
Click to expand...

VCDEasy is a GUI for VCDimager. Among many other things, it can
disassemble a VCD to extract the mpeg1 file.
 
VCDEasy is a GUI for VCDimager. Among many other things, it can
disassemble a VCD to extract the mpeg1 file.
Click to expand...

Thanks. I'd seen the program but it said it was limited version so
passed on it. I'll give it a closer look. I ended up using a small
utility called CdXA2Mpg which worked for the project. There's another
post around here somewhere.

Cheers.

--
 
Back
Top