Aero Glass crash.

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When i run certain programs (Azerus, InkBall game, and a few others) the
Aero glass UI shuts off, as if its trying to free up some resources. and as
a result i cannot play any Vista games or run certain other programs. Is
there a way i can shut this detection off? or maybe there is just an error i
need to fix?
 
There is a similar bug on the setup group where Aero Glass causes a black
screen in an attempt to install ATI drivers.

The text of the problem is here: (You can go to that group to read the
thread). It was resolved by turning off Aero Glass).

The problem is copied below.

I've just installed 5472 on a fresh partition. Whenever I try to do
something that requires increased privileges (change network settings
for instance), the permissions dialog pops up and then the screen
goes black. This happens in safe mode or normal mode and at all
resoultions. The display settings report:-
- Generic PnP Monitor on RADEON X700 (Microsoft Corporation WDDM)

Ctrl+Alt+Del gets the screen back with usual log off options. If I
press cancel to return to the desktop I just get the black screen
again.

Any ideas?

I would try to install the ATI drivers but that of course pops up the
'Continue' dialog and the screen goes black.
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You can download the MBC (the Microsoft Bug Reporting Client Tool via:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=43655 but for the public it's as
worthless as yelling at an NFL quaterback on TV on Sunday (NBC) orMonday
Night (ABC) this season.

Email this bug to (e-mail address removed)

Email this bug to (e-mail address removed)

Ask them to email it to the appropriate team.

CH
 
Hi,
Check this out;
NOTICE: It seems that most, if not all, Java-based Windows applications
disable Aero Glass. This is only temporary and the effects are restored when
the program is closed. This issue has been fixed in the latest builds of
Java 6
This may be worth looking into about Aeroglass; it solves alot of
problems.
Java 6 is also Beta;and you want the JRE one;not JDK.
You can get it here;

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ea.jsp

You need to uninstall any previous version of Java;before installing
Java 6.
It helped me alot with the problem of apps causing Aeroglass to turn off.

Jeff
 
Deebs

From what I've seen and read in following this Beta, I'd use ***both**. My
objective is simple. I know Vista pretty well, and have been using it for
months and I have watched bug after bug become congenitally transmitted from
generation to generation or build to build unfixed and unackowledged. These
are major not minor bugs. These have to do with fixing the OS, IE and
WinMail when they are broken. MSFT seems to be embracing the same policy of
the US government which is trying to intimidate news reporters at the New
York Times by selectively targeting them.

I find it remarkably disingenous that

1) The public beta reporting tool that I found is buried like a needle in a
proverbial haystack and mentioned no where on their prominent Vista sites
where they gush about feedback when they mean we have started our ad
campaing by giving 2 million or so of you the CPP (Beta 2 and RC1 and
probably RC2 or any milestone build that follows in the road to a broken
RTM.

2) When I make the MBC publiic or give direct email addresses of MSFT
personnel (I haven't even used email addresses of the specific team members
but would if I saw an area that has been chronically broken build to build
like SFC in a post) I am using MSFT personnel who have sites specifically on
feedback.

3) I notice that the community jerk ( and jerkess because many are female)
who knows little about Windows, Office or their mainstream software, and
contributes nothing toward help and support of MSFT customers are knocking
the linksand constructive criticism or dissent off the server immediately
but they have left the porn ads on. This must mean that 1) they have very
tiny brains that don't tolerate legitimate criticsm 2) They want the porn
links to stay up so that they can reach them conveniently because they don't
trust their own skills to copy and paste them.

This group and setup are becoming littered with advertisements for
pornography but they seem to be fine with MSFT. So do the pornographic
lyrics on their MSN music downloads sites in the CDs that lead with pictures
for downloads to their target audience which includes children.

CH
 
Very helpful info. Thanks Jeff. Java plugins have been causing a number of
problems with Vista features. Others have been threads on this group.

CH
 
Use the MBC to report a reproducible bug. Use the "sentiments" link to
report your impressions and general comments.
 
Really! And how does the reporter have any information on his bug's
treatment, or the same information you do on "this bug will be fixed in RC1"
(noting that you have been lied to by similar messages during the past 13
months)?

Where is the list of bugs that have been fixed since the Beta launched that
is for public view? Where is the list of the status of bugs that have been
reported? The raw number may be high but the raw classifications of these
bugs would be easily reportable on a public site.

Can't hear you Colin.

CH
 
I have Glass turning off when running RealBasic which, AFAIK, is not
dependent on Java. It comes back on immediately on exit. Isn't a problem
but it is a bug.
 
Chad,
The MBC can be accessed through the feedback icon on the desktop;and I
copy and paste this directly from that ;
"To report a problem, download the problem-reporting tool, which includes a
feedback form.
When downloading the problem-reporting tool, you will be prompted to
click either Run or Save. Click Run and the tool will be installed on your
computer. When you fill out a report, you can send it right away or save it
and send it later."
It's not hidden;in an out of the way technet blog.
And your assumption is incorrect also;
I have submitted bugs with the MBC;through the public beta;which have gotten
to MSFT;AND I might add;have been looked at,
MSFT has even sent e-mails;with the bug id;and their results;i.e
open;closed;referred etc.
I will say this however;
Since I was not in the private beta; the actual bug report on
Connect;cannot be accessed.
Which also was responded to by MSFT;they are aware of this;and said they
are"looking into" giving the public beta access to the actual report.
But;that may be a moot point;since RC1 and beyond are looming on the
horizon.

Jeff
 
Bernie;
It may well not be dependent on Java;
I was pointing out that alot of apps do use Java;and that this issue with
Java;causing the problem ;
was fixed.
I am running an older stats app on Vista;that is not dependent on
Java;that causes Areoglass to be shut off.
I don't neccesarily think I'de call it a bug;on MSFT's part.
I'de call in application incompatabilty
There are going to be applications;that don't meet MSFT's criteria for
running with Aeroglass;especially older programs

Jeff
 
You are absolutely right that MS could do a lot better on two way
communication but I still think it better to report bugs than not.
 
Have you seen any kind of MS documentation on apps not being compatible
with Aero? I'm just running a trial version of RealBasic but it was
written very recently, like months at the most. I have some other
programs written in 97 or 98 that run fine with Aero and look pretty
good too. Apart from the obvious things like skins I can't think of a
reason why an app wouldn't be compatible with it as long as it could run
at all.
 
I answered his question. Why not?

Chad Harris said:
Really! And how does the reporter have any information on his bug's
treatment, or the same information you do on "this bug will be fixed in
RC1" (noting that you have been lied to by similar messages during the
past 13 months)?

Where is the list of bugs that have been fixed since the Beta launched
that is for public view? Where is the list of the status of bugs that
have been reported? The raw number may be high but the raw
classifications of these bugs would be easily reportable on a public site.

Can't hear you Colin.

CH
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My understanding is that it is not a bug in Glass so much as prevention of
unpleasant results from programs which will not render in Glass properly.
Glass turns itself off to promote a better user experience.
 
Bernie,
I got that Java info from Wiki.
They have compiled a list of apps that work; and don't work in the Vista
beta;
The latest compilation is about build 5472;however;they do have lists of
the other builds;also.
I haven't seen anything from MS;officially, but again; that Java 6 Beta 2;
did solve some problems;that I was having;with apps and Aeroglass; not
all;as my example points out;
but anything that uses Java;it helped. Oh;
I gleaned this little nugget from there too :-)
a.. All 16-Bit software will fail to run on Vista as such legacy support has
been removed from the OS!

P.S. here;s where the software app compatability list can be found.
http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List

Jeff
 
You mean why not censor valid methods for feedback and knock them
immediately off the server, but keep the porn ads prominently displayed in
upper case all over the groups?

Are they what Redmond MSFT considers class--and how can they be integratred
into a better Vista?

CH
 
I don't think MSFT is a) effectively using bug reports from TAP, CTP, TBT
and particulary they don't give a damn about them from CPP.

They are expressly witholding information from the public in the form of
chats and Live Meetings.

They have no effective bug fix lists.

I will look for some good compatibility of Vista per build lists and post
them later Bernie. I long ago (over 6 months ago) suggested to the Vista
teams that they do this and they promised and said "great idea" and of
course never delivered. It makes too much sense for MSFT to do.

CH
 
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