Advice needed XP 2600+ TBred vs/or 2600+ Barton]

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Gordon Scott

Currently I have a TBred 2600+ which runs at 2.03Mhz stock.
Mines clocked 180x12.5 to 2255Mhz, stable as heck, and the performance is
great.

I have the opportunity to get/trade a 2600+ Barton.

I know the barton has bigger cache, but the core/stock speed is lower at
1833Mhz

I both game and do video editing, on an A7N8X-deluxe running dual DDR
mode

So... can I clock the barton up to the Tbred speed with the same
stability?
Or what will my tradeoffs be? I'm a bit leary/unsure of dropping down
400Mhz in processor speed.

Fianlly, what about heat?

Advice, rants, comments, personal experience, appreciated.

Thx

Gordon
 
Gordon said:
Currently I have a TBred 2600+ which runs at 2.03Mhz stock.
Mines clocked 180x12.5 to 2255Mhz, stable as heck, and the performance is
great.

I have the opportunity to get/trade a 2600+ Barton.

I know the barton has bigger cache, but the core/stock speed is lower at
1833Mhz
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Which means that you get the same performance froma slower clock...
I both game and do video editing, on an A7N8X-deluxe running dual DDR
mode

So... can I clock the barton up to the Tbred speed with the same
stability?
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You should be able to, but it all depends on your luck. Most should get to
2.2GHz without trouble, the newer it is the more likely you'll be able to do
it, generally, but very new ones are locked.
Or what will my tradeoffs be? I'm a bit leary/unsure of dropping down
400Mhz in processor speed.
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From what I gather, top speed on the Tbred B and Barton cores is about the
same.
Fianlly, what about heat?
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The Barton core has a higher die area to heat production ratio so it should
be easier to cool than a Tbred, so although it it will produce a little more
heat overall, the higher surface area makes it easier to get rid of the
heat, resulting in probably not much difference in temperature.

Ben
 
Currently I have a TBred 2600+ which runs at 2.03Mhz stock.
Mines clocked 180x12.5 to 2255Mhz, stable as heck, and the performance is
great.

I have the opportunity to get/trade a 2600+ Barton.

I know the barton has bigger cache, but the core/stock speed is lower at
1833Mhz

I both game and do video editing, on an A7N8X-deluxe running dual DDR
mode

So... can I clock the barton up to the Tbred speed with the same
stability?
Or what will my tradeoffs be? I'm a bit leary/unsure of dropping down
400Mhz in processor speed.

Fianlly, what about heat?

Advice, rants, comments, personal experience, appreciated.
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I would keep the Tbred.

I use a 1700+@2100 (10.5x200) and barton 2500+@2100 (11x190) , both
are rather low overclocked because of the warm summer. I haven't tried
to speed them further, now when room temperature is about 10 degrees
lower.

The larger cache of barton is nothing to write home about, from my
opinion.

best regards

John
 
JK said:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:07:15 GMT, Gordon Scott
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I would keep the Tbred.

I use a 1700+@2100 (10.5x200) and barton 2500+@2100 (11x190) , both
are rather low overclocked because of the warm summer. I haven't tried
to speed them further, now when room temperature is about 10 degrees
lower.

The larger cache of barton is nothing to write home about, from my
opinion.

best regards

John
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John, is there a no noticeable performance difference between your two cpus?
Can your Barton 2500 not do 200FSB?
 
John, is there a no noticeable performance difference between your two cpus?
Can your Barton 2500 not do 200FSB?
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The ram I use for my barton are not supposed to do much better than
190 (Crucial pc2700). No, I cannot say that the barton is better, to
my opinion.

Furthermore the 2 computers use the same kind of harddisk, maxtor
fluid IDE 7200 rpm 120Gb with 8 Mbyte cache. The 1700+ runs on a
soltek frn2-l with twinmos pc2700 able to run fsb200. The 2500+ runs
on abit nf7.
Actually I like best the soltek system. It runs like a breeze. It
seems to me that harddisk performance is slower on the abit. It might
be a question of controller. Maybe I should use another controller.
They use the same new Nvidia IDE drivers.

What favors the abit system is, that it can do silent standby. I use
that a lot. I have adsl. It takes 12 seconds from I touch the space
bar to XP windows is fully up. Nice !
A cold boot takes about 40 seconds. Half a minute waiting !

I am thinking of buying some better ram the abit, some adata pc4000 or
twinmos pc3700. But it is Christmas time. And they write about the new
AMD socket 939 and DDR2. We are going to use DDR2 some day.

best regards

John
 
JK said:
The ram I use for my barton are not supposed to do much better than
190 (Crucial pc2700). No, I cannot say that the barton is better, to
my opinion.

Furthermore the 2 computers use the same kind of harddisk, maxtor
fluid IDE 7200 rpm 120Gb with 8 Mbyte cache. The 1700+ runs on a
soltek frn2-l with twinmos pc2700 able to run fsb200. The 2500+ runs
on abit nf7.
Actually I like best the soltek system. It runs like a breeze. It
seems to me that harddisk performance is slower on the abit. It might
be a question of controller. Maybe I should use another controller.
They use the same new Nvidia IDE drivers.

What favors the abit system is, that it can do silent standby. I use
that a lot. I have adsl. It takes 12 seconds from I touch the space
bar to XP windows is fully up. Nice !
A cold boot takes about 40 seconds. Half a minute waiting !

I am thinking of buying some better ram the abit, some adata pc4000 or
twinmos pc3700. But it is Christmas time. And they write about the new
AMD socket 939 and DDR2. We are going to use DDR2 some day.

best regards

John
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Thanks for the detailed reply, John. The reason for my asking is that I have
an XP2100 and PC3200 RAM, but the highest FSB (stable) is around 180Mhz on
an Asus A7N8X dx (rev. 1.04) - although the cpu is happy to clock at
2.25Ghz. So I was contemplating an upgrade to a Barton XP2500 - although I
hear that AMD are locking them now - and/or some Kingston HyperX PC3200 RAM.
 
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