ADMT & migrating computer local profiles

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Jim Helfer

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here, I'd appreciate it if
someone could tell me if my expectations are on target.

I am building a Win2003 domain to replace my NT4 domain. I am using
Active Directory Migration tool to move users and computers.

Now, I have users and computer moving over, however, when I later log
into the migrated computer, it is still joined to the original NT4
domain, hasn't created another profile under the new domain, and still
defaults to the old domain at the login gina.

What would be ideal is if the computer could be joined to the new
domain and have a new user profile copied from the old one, and then
when the user came in (on say, Monday morning). He would ready to log
into the new domain. But maybe that's not what it's designed to do.

I can't get a real good idea of what the results should be from the
docs. Some direction appreciated.

Jim Helfer
WTW Architects
Pittsburgh PA

P.S. Does anyone know why computers get migrated to the "Users" folder
in ADUC ? Strange
 
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Jim Helfer said:
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here, I'd appreciate it if
someone could tell me if my expectations are on target.

I am building a Win2003 domain to replace my NT4 domain. I am
using Active Directory Migration tool to move users and computers.

Now, I have users and computer moving over, however, when I later
log into the migrated computer, it is still joined to the original NT4
domain, hasn't created another profile under the new domain, and still
defaults to the old domain at the login gina.
Click to expand...

If I remember correctly, it would default to it. Need to select the new one
in the drop down list. DId the new domain show up in the drop down list? Did
you also run the security translator too?
What would be ideal is if the computer could be joined to the new
domain and have a new user profile copied from the old one, and then
when the user came in (on say, Monday morning). He would ready to log
into the new domain. But maybe that's not what it's designed to do.
Click to expand...

Basically that's what it does. I've performed a few migrations without
problems with this.
I can't get a real good idea of what the results should be from the
docs. Some direction appreciated.

Jim Helfer
WTW Architects
Pittsburgh PA

P.S. Does anyone know why computers get migrated to the "Users"
folder in ADUC ? Strange
Click to expand...

You would select what OU to migrate them to in the new domain in the ADMT
wizard. If you bypassed that screen, it would put them in the default
location, the Users container.

Below is one of my previous posts on this subject...hope it helps out..

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Ace said:
Top part is for migrating without Exchange from NT4 to W2k. or W2k to
W2k.
Bottom is for migrating from NT4 with Ex55 to W2k with Ex2k.

---- Original Message ----
From: "Ace Fekay" <[email protected]>
To: "Aceman@Ba"p<ü"r<tn<dthpros" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:05 AM
Subject: ADMT steps, refined with links

Best option is to create a brand new domain in a new pristine forest
called local.domain.com. Or you can make it just domain.com. Not sure
why even need
to bother with local as a child domain of domain.com. I would prefer
domain.com, but you will need to follow your company's guidelines
they may
have in place.

Then I would use the ADMT tool. Read this about migration. The idea
i"r<ü¤t<"p<e same as W2k to W2k:
Domain Migration Cookbook - Chapter 10 Consolidation of Windows NT 4.0
Resource Domains:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook
/cookch10.asp

ADMT 2.0 is a nice tool. Available on the .NET beta cdrom. If you
don't have
that, download ADMT v1.0 here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/tools/admt/default.asp

Steps:
Trust recommended two way between source and target.

ADMTv2 will handle the TCPClientSupport reg setting¤t<ü´v<"r<
target and source and
the DOMAIN$$$ group on the source.

If using ADMT v1.0, follow these steps to configure the above. It is
for NT4
to W2k, but the procedure is the same:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q260871

Then

1. Logged on target, migrate users acccounts (including associated
groups).
Include the SIDHistory.
2. Logged on target, migrate group accounts (the ones that the above
didn't
get).
3. Logged on source (from target), migrate computer accounts.
ADMT´v<üÄx<¤t<l send out an agent that will install on all
client machines that are joined to the
domain. The client machines will automatically be moved to the new
domain
and it will preserve the local profiles and move them with the new
account
name.
4. Logged on target, run the security translator from ADMT.
5. If going from NT4 to W2k AD, before upgrading, correctly set the
Primary
DNS Suffix.

Obviously you may want to test this on your own workstation or a test
workstation so you know what's involved.Äx<üÔz<´v<pe it helps.
Click to expand...
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Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
Ace said:
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If I remember correctly, it would default to it. Need to select the new one
in the drop down list. DId the new domain show up in the drop down list? Did
you also run the security translator too?
Click to expand...

Perhaps that's the part that I was missing. I'll try again.


Basically that's what it does. I've performed a few migrations without
problems with this.
Click to expand...

I've gotten to the point where it completes without errors, and the
new domain appears in the the drop-down list, but not as the default.
The PC is still joined to the old domain. It's no problem to change it,
and the profile is reused correctly, but I must be doing something not
quite right.

You would select what OU to migrate them to in the new domain in the ADMT
wizard. If you bypassed that screen, it would put them in the default
location, the Users container.
Click to expand...


OK, in the Computer Migration wizrd, the default target OU _is_ the
user folder. Went right over my head.
 
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Jim Helfer said:
Perhaps that's the part that I was missing. I'll try again.


I've gotten to the point where it completes without errors, and the
new domain appears in the the drop-down list, but not as the default.
The PC is still joined to the old domain. It's no problem to change
it,
and the profile is reused correctly, but I must be doing something not
quite right.
Click to expand...


It won't default to the new domain, but rather show you the last one you
logged on to. You'll need to instruct your users to select the new domain.
OK, in the Computer Migration wizrd, the default target OU _is_ the
user folder. Went right over my head.
Click to expand...

You must have passed right over that oage in the wizard...


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Regards,
Ace

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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
Ace said:
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It won't default to the new domain, but rather show you the last one you
logged on to. You'll need to instruct your users to select the new domain.
Click to expand...


OK, then. I'll stop trying to make it do that <g>.

I am still a bit concerned about the computer's domain membership.
Even after all the conversions and migrations and translations, the PC
still thinks it belongs to the Old Domain. The PC still appears in the
Server Manager of the NT4 domain, but greyed.
The appearance of my test migration PCs in ADU&C seems to be
inconsistent as well. On friday, there was an entry for my latest
migrated PC. Today, it seems to be gone!

You must have passed right over that oage in the wizard...
Click to expand...

I guess it's hard to overrate literacy as a tool for making sense of
things <g>
 
In Jim Helfer <[email protected]> posted their thoughts, then I
offered mine
OK, then. I'll stop trying to make it do that <g>.
Ok...


I am still a bit concerned about the computer's domain membership.
Even after all the conversions and migrations and translations, the PC
still thinks it belongs to the Old Domain.
The PC still appears in
the Server Manager of the NT4 domain, but greyed.
Click to expand...

You have to delete it manually...
The appearance of my test migration PCs in ADU&C seems to be
inconsistent as well. On friday, there was an entry for my latest
migrated PC. Today, it seems to be gone!
Click to expand...

Does that mean you sent it to an OU instead of the Users Containter? Or you
just lost it?
Not sure what you mean here...
Actually, in the migrations that I've performed, never have seen this one...
I guess it's hard to overrate literacy as a tool for making sense of
things <g>
Click to expand...

:-)

I guess you knew I meant "page" and not "oage". :-)




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Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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