Adding Memory

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Jimbo

I have a computer motherboard emachines T1090 with Windows XP. I bought it in
2002. Right now it has a Memory of 256 MB and would like to know if I can
increase it to 512 MB. Appreciate your help.
 
Jimbo

According to this link the answer is no. You already have the maximum.
http://www.shopping.com/xPF-E-Machines-T1090

The only answer if you are having performance issues, as I expect you
are is to trim what loads on start up. You also need to be careful what
software you install. Also avoid multi-tasking.

What do you use the computer for?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Jimbo said:
I have a computer motherboard emachines T1090 with Windows XP. I
bought it in 2002. Right now it has a Memory of 256 MB and would like
to know if I can increase it to 512 MB. Appreciate your help.

Since 256MB is the max listed for that machine and if it running too slow
for you, I would consider formating the HDD and installing Win98SE on it.
Otherwise, keep the min amt of programs running and do good housekeeping.
 
Hello, Gerry and Buffalo. Thanks for your input and yes I'm having
performance issues, also my computer is running too slow. How do you trim
programs from loading on start up? Thanks in advance.
 
Jimbo

Answer my questions and we can take it from there.

More background information would also help.

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report . Open Disk
Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save
As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a
copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more
informative.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Jimbo:
I'm virtually certain that desktop machine can accommodate up to 512 MB of
RAM. It has two memory slots and each one can hold 256 MB of PC100 SDRAM.
Check your motherboard's user manual re this.

But you're dealing here with a very old PC with a relatively slow processor
(by today's standards), and unless you have some special need for the
increased RAM (and I honestly couldn't imagine what it would be with that
machine), I wonder whether it would be wiser to save your money. I really
doubt that even with 512 MB of memory there would be a significant
performance increase in your day-to-day computer activities.

Also, it's not really clear about your current 256 MB of SDRAM. If there are
*two* modules of 128 SDRAM installed, then you would need *two* 256 MB RAM
modules to get you to 512 MB of RAM.

And there's another potential problem with those "elderly" machines. In many
instances the added RAM module has to be a precise duplicate (in terms of
make/model) of the installed RAM module, or it either won't work or cause
problems of one sort or another. So if you *do* purchase an additional
module make sure you have refund privileges.

Anyway, if you *do* decide to add add'l RAM, I would strongly advise you to
consult with eMachines tech support before you do so. Do *not* depend on the
Crucial info or any other website which lists specifications for this
machine.
Anna
 
Norman

A Disk Defragment Report is a good source of background information.

Disk Defragmenting is only component of housekeeping but I have asked
for the Report for other reasons. If you read the whole thread you would
see the computer is marginal for Windows XP

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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Norman

Let's see what it reveals. You will most likely get a flavour regarding
computer use and programmes installed.


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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Gerry said:
Norman

A Disk Defragment Report is a good source of background information.

Disk Defragmenting is only component of housekeeping but I have asked for
the Report for other reasons. If you read the whole thread you would see
the computer is marginal for Windows XP
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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England


Norman, Gerry (and anyone else who cares to listen)...
With respect to only the general topic of defragmenting (since the topic has
arisen!) and not bearing directly upon the OP's problem...

During the Win9x days there was a standing joke at the shop where I was
working as a computer technician. When we techs arrived at the shop bright &
early Monday mornings we would invariably see a number of customers (new &
old) standing in line outside our door with computers in their hands (as
well as lying at their feet) waiting for the shop's door to open. The
standing joke around the shop was "Looks like the defragmenters were busy
over the weekend, huh?".

Invariably many users who were having no problems with their PCs prior to
defragmenting their HDDs certainly did encounter problems of one sort or
another following their attempt at "defragmenting" their HDD. And it didn't
seem to matter whether the OS's defragmenting utility was used or whether a
third-party program had been used. In nearly every case the only "fix" was a
reformatting of the drive and a reinstallation of the OS. Now I have to
emphasize that the preceding events occurred during the Win9x days.

Admittedly (based upon our experience with the XP OS environment) those
problems arising from the defragmentation process going awry seem to have
pretty much disappeared. The XP defragmenter is apparently much more
reliable in that it doesn't seem to cause the mischief its predecessors
sometimes caused (or at least were culpable in some respects). Ditto for the
latest generation of third-party defragmenters based on limited experience
we've had with them.

How effective the defragmenting process is in achieving "real-life"
improvement of a system's performance is another story. In our experience,
very little, if anything, is gained by the great bulk of PC users. (There
was an interesting article on defragmenting in (I believe) PC World a few
years back. After rather exhaustive testing, they concluded that the
defragmenting process yielded no significant performance improvement
affecting the XP OS for the vast majority of users, whether the XP
integrated utility was used or a third-party defragmenter was employed in
the process.

When we're asked about the value of defragmenting one's HDD, our standard
response for must PC users is that by & large the process is unnecessary to
achieve better performance of one's system. But if you feel you *must*
"defragment", do so twice a year - on New Years Day and Independence Day
(we're talking USA here). That's more than sufficient in our opinion, again,
for the vast majority of PC users.

There are (naturally!) certain exceptions to the point-of-view I've
expressed above (at least based upon reports I've received from a number of
users). It seems (according to these reports) that if the user is heavily
engaged in decoding/encoding video files and/or creating, deleting, or
modifying a *huge* volume of files on a very frequent basis, then there
*might* be valid reasons for undertaking more-or-less routine defragmenting
operations.

I'm aware that contrary viewpoints will be expressed re this issue, so let
me hastily say that if you are one of those who regularly defragments their
HDD(s) (either through the "built-in" XP utility or some third-party
"defragmenter") and believes that by so doing your PC performance is truly
enhanced, then obviously you should continue to do so.
In no way would I wish to dissuade those who feel they're deriving some
value from regularly defragmenting their HDD(s
Anna
 
I'm virtually certain that desktop machine can accommodate up to 512 MB of
RAM. It has two memory slots and each one can hold 256 MB of PC100 SDRAM.
Check your motherboard's user manual re this.

But you're dealing here with a very old PC with a relatively slow
processor (by today's standards), and unless you have some special need
for the increased RAM (and I honestly couldn't imagine what it would be
with that machine), I wonder whether it would be wiser to save your money.
I really doubt that even with 512 MB of memory there would be a
significant performance increase in your day-to-day computer activities.

Also, it's not really clear about your current 256 MB of SDRAM. If there
are *two* modules of 128 SDRAM installed, then you would need *two* 256 MB
RAM modules to get you to 512 MB of RAM.

And there's another potential problem with those "elderly" machines. In
many instances the added RAM module has to be a precise duplicate (in
terms of make/model) of the installed RAM module, or it either won't work
or cause problems of one sort or another. So if you *do* purchase an
additional module make sure you have refund privileges.

Anyway, if you *do* decide to add add'l RAM, I would strongly advise you
to consult with eMachines tech support before you do so. Do *not* depend
on the Crucial info or any other website which lists specifications for
this machine.
Anna


As you know, your PC is on the old side. However, if you intend on keeping
it for a while, $34 (or even $68) is a small investment for a considerable
performance boost.


Jimbo:
I had occasion to speak to two of my former colleagues today re your query
and my response to it.

Coincidentally one of them recently had occasion to work on an older
eMachines desktop that, while he recalled, used the same Intel 810 chipset
as your T1090 and whose configuration was (he thinks) the same as yours re
the Celeron processor, etc., he couldn't recall the model # of the machine.

The only significant difference (apparently) between the machine he worked
on and yours was that the one he was repairing was equipped with 128 MB of
RAM (apparently how the machine came RAM-populated from the factory). The
customer also desired to increase the RAM to 512 MB. So the shop installed
two modules of 256 MB of PC100 SDRAM in the two memory slots.

According to my colleague, the add'l RAM made a world of difference
performance-wise, and he highly recommended going that route if it's
economically feasible for you to do so. My other colleague felt the same
way. While it is true you're working with 256 MB of RAM they feel the add'l
256 MB would be a decided performance improvement. Needless to say, I trust
the judgment of my former colleagues.

So in view of the preceding I'll do a 180 degree turn here and agree with
Daave re installing the add'l RAM.
Anna
 
Sorry I'm late, could not help it. I use my pc for personl use. The following
is the information you requested: The Commit charge, the total is 405868,
Limit 511496 and the Peak is 452964, and as for the Disk Defragmenter report
I need help on how to send it. It's in My Document Folder.
 
Jimbo

The Commit Charge figures demonstrate your is making over much use of
the pagefile. You therefore need to add memory or reduce memory.

Since I posted the link saying your sysyem was only capable of taking
256 mb RAM others have posted contradictory evidence suggesting the
limit may be 512 mb. If my link had been from the computer manufacturers
site I would still maintain the limit was 256 mb but the link was one
quoting what appears to have come from the manufacturers site. The
manufacter's site site does clarify the upgrade capability but this
gives contact details:
http://emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=T Series&model=T1090

VolumeC.txt can be opened using Notepad. Highlight the required text in
the open file right click and select Copy. Paste the text into your
message.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
If you go to www.crucial.com and check on memory upgrades you'll find the
emachines T1090 can take a maximum of 512 meg.
It, ( your board) has two slots. Each slot can take a 256 meg memory card
type SDRAM PC133.
 
That is not true.
Gerry said:
Jimbo

According to this link the answer is no. You already have the maximum.
http://www.shopping.com/xPF-E-Machines-T1090

The only answer if you are having performance issues, as I expect you are
is to trim what loads on start up. You also need to be careful what
software you install. Also avoid multi-tasking.

What do you use the computer for?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
256MB is NOT the max his board can support.
Buffalo said:
Since 256MB is the max listed for that machine and if it running too slow
for you, I would consider formating the HDD and installing Win98SE on it.
Otherwise, keep the min amt of programs running and do good housekeeping.
 
Jim

Actually it wasn't as there exists comflicting information with
Emachines support silent on the matter. On the one side an Emachines
supplier says one thing and Crucial another. With the lack of clarity I
suggested that Jimbo should telephone Emachines.


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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
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