add then remove second HDD. 2k no longer boots as primary, worksif I move it to secondary????

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Windows 2000 SP4. Drive loaded as primary master.
works great.
I plugged in an XP disk into secondary master and fiddled
around with it.
Removed XP disk.
Now, my w2K disk no longer boots as primary master.
If I move it to secondary master, it works fine.

This has happened more than once, although the process
to make it happen is not clear. Seems random.

When it happens, I can ghost the image back to the drive
and it works fine as primary master again.

This is my test system with plug-in ide drives that get
swapped around frequently. I NEED to swap drives around...
Win98 drives don't have this problem.

Hpw do I fix/patch/recover/prevent this?
Thanks, mike
 
We've no idea since you didn't tell us what happens when you try?

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:
| Windows 2000 SP4. Drive loaded as primary master.
| works great.
| I plugged in an XP disk into secondary master and fiddled
| around with it.
| Removed XP disk.
| Now, my w2K disk no longer boots as primary master.
| If I move it to secondary master, it works fine.
|
| This has happened more than once, although the process
| to make it happen is not clear. Seems random.
|
| When it happens, I can ghost the image back to the drive
| and it works fine as primary master again.
|
| This is my test system with plug-in ide drives that get
| swapped around frequently. I NEED to swap drives around...
| Win98 drives don't have this problem.
|
| Hpw do I fix/patch/recover/prevent this?
| Thanks, mike
 
Dave said:
We've no idea since you didn't tell us what happens when you try?
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When I try what?

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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:
| Windows 2000 SP4. Drive loaded as primary master.
| works great.
| I plugged in an XP disk into secondary master and fiddled
| around with it.
| Removed XP disk.
| Now, my w2K disk no longer boots as primary master.
| If I move it to secondary master, it works fine.
|
| This has happened more than once, although the process
| to make it happen is not clear. Seems random.
|
| When it happens, I can ghost the image back to the drive
| and it works fine as primary master again.
|
| This is my test system with plug-in ide drives that get
| swapped around frequently. I NEED to swap drives around...
| Win98 drives don't have this problem.
|
| Hpw do I fix/patch/recover/prevent this?
| Thanks, mike
 
Hmm .... well the clue I have is subject line: "2k no longer boots as
primary"

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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:
| When I try what?
 
Dave said:
Hmm .... well the clue I have is subject line: "2k no longer boots as
primary"
Click to expand...

Taking a wild guess at what you're asking:
I push the power switch, Disks and fans whirr...

"Missing operating system"

That what you meant?
mike

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Windows 2000 SP4. Drive loaded as primary master.
| works great.
| I plugged in an XP disk into secondary master and fiddled
| around with it.
| Removed XP disk.
| Now, my w2K disk no longer boots as primary master.
| If I move it to secondary master, it works fine.
|
| This has happened more than once, although the process
| to make it happen is not clear. Seems random.
|
| When it happens, I can ghost the image back to the drive
| and it works fine as primary master again.
|
| This is my test system with plug-in ide drives that get
| swapped around frequently. I NEED to swap drives around...
| Win98 drives don't have this problem.
|
| Hpw do I fix/patch/recover/prevent this?
| Thanks, mike
 
Dan said:
Mike: see <http://www.jsifaq.com/subk/tip5100/rh5185.htm>
Click to expand...

Thanks for the input.

The drive is an 80GB parallel IDE drive.
I have a CDRW drive on secondary slave.
If I install the drive as secondary master where it boots but boot from
the win98 floppy:
Ranish partition manager shows 3 fat32 partitions with the first one active.
Fdisk shows two fat32 partitions plus a third with the label ms-ramdrive
like it
was put there by the boot floppy, but it's 8gigabytes which happens
to be the size of the third hard drive partition.??? The order is
C,E,D with E having the ms-ramdrive label.
First partition is still active.
"dir c:" produces a listing of the C drive, as expected.


If I install the drive as primary master where it won't boot and boot
from the win98 floppy:
Ranish partition manager shows the identical 3 fat32 partitions as before.
Fdisk shows the same 3 partitions as before, but the first one is marked
as unknown system type.
"dir c:" gives an error "Invalid media type reading drive C"
fdisk /mbr didn't help

It appears that the partition is being interpreted differently depending
whether the drive is primary master or secondary master.

I HAVE done an extensive web search on this problem. I found several
complaints about similar-sounding problems. Problem was blamed
on win2k renaming it's boot drive letter to something that's no longer
there, but no answers about fixing it.

Remember that I had none of these problems until I temporarily installed
a second hard drive as secondary master. I can ghost the image of the
C drive back and the system will work normally again.

I have tried "fixboot" in the past, but don't remember how I got did it,
'cause the repair console is on the drive that won't boot.

Ideas?
thanks, mike
 
You finally provided something to go on. Check that the correct drive type
is found in cmos setup or try an auto-configure for the drive controller's
channel setup.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Thanks for the input.
|
| The drive is an 80GB parallel IDE drive.
| I have a CDRW drive on secondary slave.
| If I install the drive as secondary master where it boots but boot from
| the win98 floppy:
| Ranish partition manager shows 3 fat32 partitions with the first one
active.
| Fdisk shows two fat32 partitions plus a third with the label ms-ramdrive
| like it
| was put there by the boot floppy, but it's 8gigabytes which happens
| to be the size of the third hard drive partition.??? The order is
| C,E,D with E having the ms-ramdrive label.
| First partition is still active.
| "dir c:" produces a listing of the C drive, as expected.
|
|
| If I install the drive as primary master where it won't boot and boot
| from the win98 floppy:
| Ranish partition manager shows the identical 3 fat32 partitions as before.
| Fdisk shows the same 3 partitions as before, but the first one is marked
| as unknown system type.
| "dir c:" gives an error "Invalid media type reading drive C"
| fdisk /mbr didn't help
|
| It appears that the partition is being interpreted differently depending
| whether the drive is primary master or secondary master.
|
| I HAVE done an extensive web search on this problem. I found several
| complaints about similar-sounding problems. Problem was blamed
| on win2k renaming it's boot drive letter to something that's no longer
| there, but no answers about fixing it.
|
| Remember that I had none of these problems until I temporarily installed
| a second hard drive as secondary master. I can ghost the image of the
| C drive back and the system will work normally again.
|
| I have tried "fixboot" in the past, but don't remember how I got did it,
| 'cause the repair console is on the drive that won't boot.
|
| Ideas?
| thanks, mike
 
Dave said:
You finally provided something to go on. Check that the correct drive type
is found in cmos setup or try an auto-configure for the drive controller's
channel setup.
Click to expand...
Thanks, that seems to have fixed it.
mike
 
mike - we had to drag information out of you to help fix your problem.
Not only are you stupid enough to sneer at an effort to help you, as you
do below, but you're too dumb to ask a smart question. It's been a
pleasure having you around.

Please, stay away. You bring nothing to the table but brash ignorance.
Thank you very much for the suggestion to search google and get 65000
hits. I've already done that and wouldn't be asking if I had
found anything helpful.

I don't need a google search, I need help from someone with
knowledge/experience.


Please come back if you have something helpful to contribute.
mike


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Yaaay Dan! Go dude! You're human after all. For years I've read and
contributed to this forum and have come to admire your patience,
understanding and willingness to help the great unwashed.

Finally you've unloaded on some fumducker. Don't misunderstand me, he
deserved every bit of it. It just seems totally out of character for the Dan
Seur we've known for all this time. Good fer 'ya.
 
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