Add or Remove Programs not showing all installed programs

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Help! My QuickBooks program failed today and when I tried to remove and
reinstall it was not listed in the Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs list.
I then saw that a lot of my other programs are not listed either such as my
Zone Alarm Anti Virus. I am logged in as the administrator on my computer
and have Windows XP Service pack 2 with all the updates. These programs are
all registered with the manufacturer. Intuit (Quickbooks) can't help me
unless I can uninstall the corrupt version.
Do I need to reinstall XP?
 
ianmce said:
Help! My QuickBooks program failed today and when I tried to remove
and reinstall it was not listed in the Control Panel/Add or Remove
Programs list. I then saw that a lot of my other programs are not
listed either such as my Zone Alarm Anti Virus. I am logged in as
the administrator on my computer and have Windows XP Service pack 2
with all the updates. These programs are all registered with the
manufacturer. Intuit (Quickbooks) can't help me unless I can
uninstall the corrupt version.
Do I need to reinstall XP?

Probably not, IF everything is working OK. Try reinstalling the old
version, restart, and then see if it's in add/remove. If so, you're all
set.

It sounds like there may be corruption though; there IS a way to "fix up"
the add/remove but I can't find it right now; perhaps someone will chime in
with it.

For grins, take a look at your Even Viewer and see if it's full of error
messages. If so, depending on what they are, it might be easier to just do
a reinstall. Then again, if everything works, well ... who knows for sure?

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Poprivet said:
Probably not, IF everything is working OK. Try reinstalling the old
version, restart, and then see if it's in add/remove. If so, you're all
set.

It sounds like there may be corruption though; there IS a way to "fix up"
the add/remove but I can't find it right now; perhaps someone will chime in
with it.

For grins, take a look at your Even Viewer and see if it's full of error
messages. If so, depending on what they are, it might be easier to just do
a reinstall. Then again, if everything works, well ... who knows for sure?

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Unfortunately I can't re-install the program. It will only do so if the old version is removed. I get a message saying that there is already a version of the program on the machine. If I can't fix control panel then I will have to find another uninstall utility and try that.
 
No: reinstall the OLD program; it should allow you to install it over
itself, very likely. THEN try to Remove it & via add/remove.

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No, what I am saying is that it will not allow me to reinstall the old
program. I have the original installation CD but it gives the message that
there is already a version on the machine. Intuit support confirm that it
will not overwrite the current installation. So until I can get it removed I
am stuck.
 
ianmce said:
No, what I am saying is that it will not allow me to reinstall the old
program. I have the original installation CD but it gives the
message that there is already a version on the machine. Intuit
support confirm that it will not overwrite the current installation.
So until I can get it removed I am stuck.


Have you looked in the program folder in Program Files to see if it has an
uninstaller there?

You -could- manually uninstall it, but it's a little work and requires
fiddling with the registry. Are you up to that? BUT ...

You very likely have OTHER issues that are the likely culprit here. I'll
bet that's not the only app you can't install, especially if things are
missing from the add/remove. THAT is the first thing for you to address, or
you could end up with a lot more headaches.
For one thing, I'd backup all your important data NOW and keep it updated
until you get this straightened out.

One thing you can try, just in case something has marked them as "hidden" or
someone has played with some policies, is below:
---- start ------
To add additional components to the Add/Remove Programs list (Windows
Components):

Tools/Folder Options/View/Show Hidden Files and Folders and Show Extensions
for known file types. Then go to Windows Explorer/Inf Folder/Sysoc.inf
(Double Click it). You will find several lines that include the word 'hide'.
Simply remove the word 'hide' (but leave the comma). Save and exit. From
there you will be able to remove it from add/remove.

Add and Remove - Show All Files

Windows XP doesn't let you add or remove all the programs it installs by
default. Multimedia applications, the XP messenger, games, accessories, and
accessibility options do not show up in the Add/Remove Programs dialog box.
What if you want to get rid of them? Here's how to make Windows treat these
applications just like it treats all the others.

Go to Windows Explorer/Inf. In the right pane, scroll down to sysoc.inf,
double click it. Scroll down to:

[Components]
NtComponents=ntoc.dll,NtOcSetupProc,,4
WBEM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wbemoc.inf,hide,7
Display=desk.cpl,DisplayOcSetupProc,,7
Fax=fxsocm.dll,FaxOcmSetupProc,fxsocm.inf,,7
NetOC=netoc.dll,NetOcSetupProc,netoc.inf,,7
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,,7
com=comsetup.dll,OcEntry,comnt5.inf,hide,7
dtc=msdtcstp.dll,OcEntry,dtcnt5.inf,hide,7
IndexSrv_System = setupqry.dll,IndexSrv,setupqry.inf,,7
TerminalServer=TsOc.dll, HydraOc, TsOc.inf,hide,2
msmq=msmqocm.dll,MsmqOcm,msmqocm.inf,,6
ims=imsinsnt.dll,OcEntry,ims.inf,,7
fp_extensions=fp40ext.dll,FrontPage4Extensions,fp40ext.inf,,7
AutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,au.inf,hide,7
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7
WMAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmaccess.inf,,7
RootAutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,rootau.inf,,7
IEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,ieaccess.inf,,7
OEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,oeaccess.inf,,7
WMPOCM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmpocm.inf,,7

Games=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,games.inf,,7
AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,,7
CommApps=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,communic.inf,HIDE,7
MultiM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,multimed.inf,HIDE,7
AccessOpt=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,optional.inf,HIDE,7
Pinball=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,pinball.inf,HIDE,7
MSWordPad=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wordpad.inf,HIDE,7
ZoneGames=zoneoc.dll,ZoneSetupProc,igames.inf,,7

1. The word "HIDE" in an entry hides that application from your
Add/Remove Programs dialog box. To add games to the Add/Remove menu, delete
the word HIDE from its entry (but leave the commas that surround it). You
also have to remove "HIDE" from "AccessUtil=" for this tip to work.

2.. Save the file. Check for the new entries in the Add/Remove Programs
dialog box after you restart your computer.
-------------- end ---------------------------

The links in this are all dead I think, bnt it's still a usable document,
especially if it turns out that's your only problem. Be VERY careful
messing around in the registry!

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