AD migration from one SBS2000 to another SBS2000

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Martin Petrov

I've heard from a colleage that it is possible with the
ADMT tool, but he could not exaclty remember how.
He thought that both DCs had the same admin password.
Migration is a problem since the licensing of SBS does
not allow Domain Trusts.
Any tips or ideas how i can quickly and easily migrate my
users, groups & OUs will be greatly appreciated.


Martin
 
Martin,

I think that the good folks over at the Small Business Server NG might be an
excellent choice for this question as well as this NG. Susan and a couple
of others over there will be able to answer this with great detail.

But, I think that you have your answer already. As you stated, in SBS you
can not have any trusts. That pretty much rules out ADMT and moveuser.

I am just thinking out loud here with this, so bear with me:

What if you used something like csvde or ldifde to simply create a file that
had all of the user accounts ( essentially exporting the user accounts to
this file ). You could then use that particular file to 'create' the same
user accounts ( via importing it to the new SBS environment ). That might
save you from having to manually create each one ( and go through that
tedious process...spelling of names can be fun sometimes! ).

Now, this would be like starting all over. You would have to create the
Groups and the OUs as well. I have never created an OU using ldifde. Not
sure if that is possible but this is my personal lack of knowledge.
Remember that as far as group membership goes, you can not - in the user
account - add the 'memberOf:' attribute and populate that in each individual
user account. You have to use - in the Group account - the 'members:'
attribute. Just a little tip!

For this to work you would need to strip away the 'current SBS environment'
attributes so that the .ldf file would be useable in the 'new SBS
environment'. I want to say that this is handled by the -m switch but I
cannot remember exactly. It has been a good while since I have done
something like this.

I would also think that there would be some scripting solution - either
partial or entirely - to this situation. I will gladly leave that to those
who can script. I unfortunately get as far as .vbs logon scripts and that's
it!

Martin, what is it exactly that you are trying to do here? I would guess
that you are simply wanting to move to a more robust server or that your
current SBS Server is on the brink of failure?

HTH,

Cary
 
You can not use ADMT to migrate from one SBS server to another, because ADMT
requires trusts, which are disabled in SBS server. What you could do is to
install additional Windows 2000 server DC in SBS domain, make it a DC,
transfer all FSMO roles to it + DHCP, DNS, WINS services, remove old SBS and
upgrade Windows 2000 server DC to SBS server.

--
Regards

Matjaz Ladava, MCSE, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
(e-mail address removed), (e-mail address removed)
http://ladava.com
 
Matjaz,

I learn something new everyday!

I knew that you could add additional DCs to a SBS environment but was under
the impression that the SBS Server *HAD* to hold all five FSMO Roles. I can
not remember who told me this in the SBS newsgroup. It was one of the SBS
MVPs IIRC.

Anyway, good to know. This does indeed make things a whole lot easier. We
have several clients who use SBS2000 and the more knowledge that I have
about SBS the better!

Cary
 
You can transfer FSMO's or later just seize them, but you have to remove the
other SBS 2000 from the network before you upgrade Windows 2000 server to
SBS. SBS2003 is nicer and it allows you to have SBS 2003 concurrently with
SBS 2000 in the same domain for specific period of time (7 days I think), so
you can perform migration. SBS 2003 is quite an improvement over SBS 2000
and a really worth upgrade especially if you look at the prices for Standard
edition.
Local Microsoft here in Slovenia has just published my SBS 2003 booklet (cca
80 pages) on how to setup/configure SBS 2003. They are giving it for free on
the local events and using it for marketing purposes :-))). For me the best
thing is, that it holds my name on the cover page ;-)

--
Regards

Matjaz Ladava, MCSE, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
(e-mail address removed), (e-mail address removed)
http://ladava.com
 
Excellent!

Congrats on the publication.

Cary

Matjaz Ladava said:
You can transfer FSMO's or later just seize them, but you have to remove the
other SBS 2000 from the network before you upgrade Windows 2000 server to
SBS. SBS2003 is nicer and it allows you to have SBS 2003 concurrently with
SBS 2000 in the same domain for specific period of time (7 days I think), so
you can perform migration. SBS 2003 is quite an improvement over SBS 2000
and a really worth upgrade especially if you look at the prices for Standard
edition.
Local Microsoft here in Slovenia has just published my SBS 2003 booklet (cca
80 pages) on how to setup/configure SBS 2003. They are giving it for free on
the local events and using it for marketing purposes :-))). For me the best
thing is, that it holds my name on the cover page ;-)

--
Regards

Matjaz Ladava, MCSE, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
(e-mail address removed), (e-mail address removed)
http://ladava.com

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Yes, Cary the purpose was a hardware upgrade. Plus the
old installation had many problems, we had to do a lot of
things from scratch. But a colleague of mine is pretty
sure he's done it more than one time - migrating the
accounts with ADMT - if i get ahold of specifics i'll be
happy to post them.

once again thank you for your help

Martin
 
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