ActiveX will not re-install...

[Neil Gould]

Hi all,

I've had the misfortune of having Adobe's "update" destroy my working
ActiveX installation on IE6, and can not get it back even after meticulously
following all their instructions and various other recommendations, so out
of desperation, I thought I'd ask in the MS news groups as to whether anyone
else has insights or suggestions to try. The failure is apparently due to an
OSX file that fails to register, although the correct permissions are set.

Windows 2000 pro SP4... IE6.

TIA,

Neil

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

And you anti-virus application is...?

 

[Neil Gould]

Hi,

And you anti-virus application is...?

Of course, I did thoroughly check my system for viruses after the "update"
first failed about a week ago. The system is clean.

Also, I have several versions of Flash & ActiveX off-line installers, and
they now all fail with the same error (an OSX file fails to register, the
actual file depends on the version), even when anti-virus is disabled. I was
able to install them as needed before without problems.

Neil

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You didn't answer my question.

Hi,

Of course, I did thoroughly check my system for viruses after the "update"
first failed about a week ago. The system is clean.

Also, I have several versions of Flash & ActiveX off-line installers, and
they now all fail with the same error (an OSX file fails to register, the
actual file depends on the version), even when anti-virus is disabled. I
was
able to install them as needed before without problems.

Neil

 

[Neil Gould]

You didn't answer my question.

Typically, I use Spybot when on-line. However, to check the system after the
first failure, I used a number of anti-virus applications that I keep
on-hand and up-to-date. None reported any problems, and all subsequent
attempts to install ActiveX were done off-line with no active anti-virus
software.

Hope that helps.

Neil

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Spybot is not an anti-virus application. Do you NOT have an (one)
anti-virus application running in the background at all times?

Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one of them may
be blocking the ActiveX file from installing. Since you're so familiar with
this stuff, I don't need to tell you anything more, I'm sure.

Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/spyware/prevent.mspx

Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/viruses/worms/prevent.mspx

You didn't answer my question.

Typically, I use Spybot when on-line. However, to check the system after
the
first failure, I used a number of anti-virus applications that I keep
on-hand and up-to-date. None reported any problems, and all subsequent
attempts to install ActiveX were done off-line with no active anti-virus
software.

Hope that helps.

Neil

Hi,

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
And you anti-virus application is...?

Of course, I did thoroughly check my system for viruses after the
"update" first failed about a week ago. The system is clean.

Also, I have several versions of Flash & ActiveX off-line
installers, and they now all fail with the same error (an OSX file
fails to register, the actual file depends on the version), even
when anti-virus is disabled. I was
able to install them as needed before without problems.

Neil

 

[Neil Gould]

Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one of
them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during offline
installlation attempts?

Neil

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during offline
installlation attempts?

Thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall ignore all
further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea Timer. In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls if the
machine was offline.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook Express?
==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

 

[Neil Gould]

Thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall ignore all
further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited Spybot and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes running
according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls if the
machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools for doing
exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I could install other
versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook Express?
==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Neil Gould]

Spybot is not an anti-virus application. Do you NOT have an (one)
anti-virus application running in the background at all times?

Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one of them may
be blocking the ActiveX file from installing. Since you're so familiar with
this stuff, I don't need to tell you anything more, I'm sure.

Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/spyware/prevent.mspx

Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/viruses/worms/prevent.mspx

The "Full Service Scan", above, reported that there were no viruses etc. on
this system. While that may not be ultimately conclusive, it is consistent
with all the other anti-virus I've run, so I'm fairly confident that the
problem lies elsewhere.

You didn't answer my question.

Typically, I use Spybot when on-line. However, to check the system after
the
first failure, I used a number of anti-virus applications that I keep
on-hand and up-to-date. None reported any problems, and all subsequent
attempts to install ActiveX were done off-line with no active anti-virus
software.

Hope that helps.

Neil

Neil Gould wrote:
Hi,

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
And you anti-virus application is...?

Of course, I did thoroughly check my system for viruses after the
"update" first failed about a week ago. The system is clean.

Also, I have several versions of Flash & ActiveX off-line
installers, and they now all fail with the same error (an OSX file
fails to register, the actual file depends on the version), even
when anti-virus is disabled. I was
able to install them as needed before without problems.

Neil

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Closing/exiting Spybot does NOT disable SDHelper or Tea Timer.

If you don't fully understand what such "system protections" do and how they
do it, best not to enable them in the first place.

And I'd still like to know how this pertains to OE?

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one of
them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during offline
installlation attempts?

Thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall ignore
all further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited Spybot
and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes running
according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls if the
machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools for doing
exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I could install other
versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook Express?
==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Neil Gould]

So... you are saying that Spybot's resident monitors (SDHelper and TeaTimer)
are running in spite of the fact that their processes do not appear in Task
Manager? I think that is rather unlikely, since they do show up when
they're running.

I realize it was a long-shot to find someone here or in the other
cross-posted groups that might have come up with a Win2k solution along the
lines of a specific registry entry to change. It was a widely-cast net, and
the thought was that users of OE6 would also be likely to use IE6. That link
is now removed since there was no response.

Thanks, again.

Closing/exiting Spybot does NOT disable SDHelper or Tea Timer.

If you don't fully understand what such "system protections" do and
how they do it, best not to enable them in the first place.

And I'd still like to know how this pertains to OE?

Neil Gould wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one of
them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during
offline installlation attempts?

Thread history:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall
ignore all further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea
Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited
Spybot and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes
running according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls
if the machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools for
doing exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I could
install other versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook Express?
==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Stubby]

Sometime ago I had an awful time trying to install the latest Flash.
I finally found someone at Adobe that told me the problem is that the
permissions were wrong on something and that prevented removing the
previous version and the installation would fail. It turns out to be
a known problem and they have a prescription to fixing it that
involves installing subinacl and feeding it two command files. I'll
bet you can find it by searching the Flash installation page and the
faq.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Post here instead, please: http://forums.spybot.info/

So... you are saying that Spybot's resident monitors (SDHelper and
TeaTimer)
are running in spite of the fact that their processes do not appear in
Task
Manager? I think that is rather unlikely, since they do show up when
they're running.

I realize it was a long-shot to find someone here or in the other
cross-posted groups that might have come up with a Win2k solution along
the
lines of a specific registry entry to change. It was a widely-cast net,
and
the thought was that users of OE6 would also be likely to use IE6. That
link
is now removed since there was no response.

Thanks, again.

Closing/exiting Spybot does NOT disable SDHelper or Tea Timer.

If you don't fully understand what such "system protections" do and
how they do it, best not to enable them in the first place.

And I'd still like to know how this pertains to OE?

Neil Gould wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one of
them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during
offline installlation attempts?

Thread history:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall
ignore all further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea
Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited
Spybot and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes
running according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls
if the machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools for
doing exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I could
install other versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook Express?
==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Steve Parry]

Hi all,

I've had the misfortune of having Adobe's "update" destroy my working
ActiveX installation on IE6, and can not get it back even after
meticulously
following all their instructions and various other recommendations, so out
of desperation, I thought I'd ask in the MS news groups as to whether
anyone
else has insights or suggestions to try. The failure is apparently due to
an
OSX file that fails to register, although the correct permissions are set.

Windows 2000 pro SP4... IE6.

TIA,

Neil

Try downloading and using the full installer here, worked for me

http://www.softwarepatch.com/network-security/flashplay-security.html

 

[Neil Gould]

Post here instead, please: http://forums.spybot.info/

Thanks for your attempts to help, PA Bear, but I don't think the issue has
anything at all to do with Spybot. As I wrote several times, now, the issue
persists even when Spybot is not running, and if its processes are not
running, it isn't running.

I suspect that this is something specific to registry entries in Win2k/IE6,
as solutions to this problem seem to work for most folks running XP.

Neil

So... you are saying that Spybot's resident monitors (SDHelper and
TeaTimer)
are running in spite of the fact that their processes do not appear
in Task
Manager? I think that is rather unlikely, since they do show up when
they're running.

I realize it was a long-shot to find someone here or in the other
cross-posted groups that might have come up with a Win2k solution
along the
lines of a specific registry entry to change. It was a widely-cast
net, and
the thought was that users of OE6 would also be likely to use IE6.
That link
is now removed since there was no response.

Thanks, again.

Closing/exiting Spybot does NOT disable SDHelper or Tea Timer.

If you don't fully understand what such "system protections" do and
how they do it, best not to enable them in the first place.

And I'd still like to know how this pertains to OE?

Neil Gould wrote:
Neil Gould wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one
of them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during
offline installlation attempts?

Thread history:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall
ignore all further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea
Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited
Spybot and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes
running according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls
if the machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools for
doing exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I could
install other versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook
Express? ==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Neil Gould]

Try downloading and using the full installer here, worked for me

http://www.softwarepatch.com/network-security/flashplay-security.html

Thanks, Steve. I already have this installer, as well as for older versions,
and none of them will load on my system, though they did so prior to my
attempt to update fp10 on-line.

Neil

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

And I will repeat that disabling Spybot does NOT disable its Residents or
its Immunizations.

Post here instead, please: http://forums.spybot.info/

Thanks for your attempts to help, PA Bear, but I don't think the issue has
anything at all to do with Spybot. As I wrote several times, now, the
issue
persists even when Spybot is not running, and if its processes are not
running, it isn't running.

I suspect that this is something specific to registry entries in
Win2k/IE6,
as solutions to this problem seem to work for most folks running XP.

Neil

So... you are saying that Spybot's resident monitors (SDHelper and
TeaTimer)
are running in spite of the fact that their processes do not appear
in Task
Manager? I think that is rather unlikely, since they do show up when
they're running.

I realize it was a long-shot to find someone here or in the other
cross-posted groups that might have come up with a Win2k solution
along the
lines of a specific registry entry to change. It was a widely-cast
net, and
the thought was that users of OE6 would also be likely to use IE6.
That link
is now removed since there was no response.

Thanks, again.


PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Closing/exiting Spybot does NOT disable SDHelper or Tea Timer.

If you don't fully understand what such "system protections" do and
how they do it, best not to enable them in the first place.

And I'd still like to know how this pertains to OE?

Neil Gould wrote:
Neil Gould wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but one
of them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during
offline installlation attempts?

Thread history:


http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I shall
ignore all further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and Tea
Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited
Spybot and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes
running according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX Controls
if the machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools for
doing exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I could
install other versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook
Express? ==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Neil Gould]

OK... good enough. However, uninstalling it does.

I do understand your perspective that an AntiVirus app could block registry
changes, but prior to going through all of this and asking for help here, I
uninstalled ALL of my anti-virus apps prior to the off-line installation
attempts, and that didn't change the outcome. Also, the on-line
Flash10/ActiveX installation worked flawlessly for FireFox with Spybot
active (same machine).

Thanks... any other ideas?

And I will repeat that disabling Spybot does NOT disable its
Residents or its Immunizations.

Post here instead, please: http://forums.spybot.info/

Thanks for your attempts to help, PA Bear, but I don't think the
issue has anything at all to do with Spybot. As I wrote several
times, now, the issue
persists even when Spybot is not running, and if its processes are
not running, it isn't running.

I suspect that this is something specific to registry entries in
Win2k/IE6,
as solutions to this problem seem to work for most folks running XP.

Neil

Neil Gould wrote:
So... you are saying that Spybot's resident monitors (SDHelper and
TeaTimer)
are running in spite of the fact that their processes do not appear
in Task
Manager? I think that is rather unlikely, since they do show up
when they're running.

I realize it was a long-shot to find someone here or in the other
cross-posted groups that might have come up with a Win2k solution
along the
lines of a specific registry entry to change. It was a widely-cast
net, and
the thought was that users of OE6 would also be likely to use IE6.
That link
is now removed since there was no response.

Thanks, again.


PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Closing/exiting Spybot does NOT disable SDHelper or Tea Timer.

If you don't fully understand what such "system protections" do
and how they do it, best not to enable them in the first place.

And I'd still like to know how this pertains to OE?

Neil Gould wrote:
Neil Gould wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Spybot's two Residents provide only minimal protection, but
one of them may be blocking the ActiveX file from installing.

How would that happen when they are not running, e.g. during
offline installlation attempts?

Thread history:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/27e94bcb95f02615

NB: Quote this post in full if you reply to it, otherwise I
shall ignore all further replies.

Being offline has no affect whatsoever on Spybot SDHelper and
Tea Timer.

When I wrote "...they are not running...", I meant that I exited
Spybot and
there were no Spybot or any other anti-virus programs' processes
running according to Task Manager.

In
any event, you would not be able to install most ActiveX
Controls if the machine was offline.

I was certainly able to do that before, as I have Adobe's tools
for doing exactly that, and until I ran into this problem, I
could install other versions of ActiveX for testing purposes.

Spybot Support Forums
http://forums.spybot.info/

PS: What on earth does any of this have to do with Outlook
Express? ==
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Thanks for your attempts to help out.

Neil

 

[Steve Parry]

Thanks, Steve. I already have this installer, as well as for older
versions,
and none of them will load on my system, though they did so prior to my
attempt to update fp10 on-line.

Neil

I noted that this download and its predecessor where named the same, the
predecessor would'nt install on my system but the newer one would