Activation Problem

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My hard disc recently died, so I had a new one installed by a local
technician who also reinstalled XP on it. Since then, it asks me to activate
windows every time I turn the computer on.

The problem is that, on entering the product key code, I get a message
saying that it is an incorrect code and it gives me the options of either
re-entering the code, or buying a new copy of XP. I've made absolutely sure
that it's the correct code (even using a keyfinder I downloaded), but I still
have the problem and I don't have long before I run out of time!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
It may be the correct code for the version of Windows you had before (there
are many versions). Now you have a different version.

Tech people are in a rough place. A person comes in with a badly mangled
system which necessitates a reinstall. You did NOT bring him your software
and install key, right. He had to use something! So, he installed a copy of
Windows that he had access to.

Now YOU are in the uncomfortable position of having an "illegal" operating
system on your computer.

Take your computer back to the tech, along with YOUR copy of Windows XP, and
tell him to install YOUR version. Of course, you will have to give him the
valid install key, that came with YOUR product, for him to do that. Do you
trust him?

Expect to pay extra for a second reinstall.

Whenever I work on computers I assume that a reinstall "may" be necessary. I
always instruct my customers to bring me the media, and install keys, for
any programs they want me to install, including the operating system. If
they don't have the install keys, their only option, as far as I am
concerned, is for me to install a virgin operating system (new - out of the
box), and they "will" pay for the system.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Fluffdragon said:
My hard disc recently died, so I had a new one installed by a local
technician who also reinstalled XP on it. Since then, it asks me to activate
windows every time I turn the computer on.

The problem is that, on entering the product key code, I get a message
saying that it is an incorrect code and it gives me the options of either
re-entering the code, or buying a new copy of XP. I've made absolutely sure
that it's the correct code (even using a keyfinder I downloaded), but I still
have the problem and I don't have long before I run out of time!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Did the repair shop re-install Windows XP with *your* installation
cdrom, the one to which the product key belongs? If not, then there
is a very good chance that the revision of Windows XP that was put
on the replacement HD might not match the product key that you own.

There are 2 alternatives...re-install with the correct combination.
Or discover what is the product key that is being used in the XP
that is currently on the HD (using Belarc or MagicJellybean, for
instance) and activating on this basis. The former will definitely
work; the latter, a little bit more ifft=y.
 
Thanks for the advice!

I tried using MagicJellybean and it gave me the "wrong" key I'd been using.

Reinstallation here I come!
 
yes, IT support is a rough place to work, tell me about it, but then if I
reinstalled a computer with a different key I'd at least check that it could
be activated, knowing that I'd be supplying the customer with useless junk if
it couldn't be. Ths strikes me as being a case of unfair trading.

Even if it'd been a corporate copy that might be regarded as a serviceable
repair (though of questionable legality) whilst a non-activatable copy is of
no practical use.
 
Richard Urban said:
It may be the correct code for the version of Windows you had
before (there are many versions). Now you have a different
version.

Tech people are in a rough place. A person comes in with a
badly mangled system which necessitates a reinstall. You did
NOT bring him your software and install key, right. He had to
use something! So, he installed a copy of Windows that he had
access to.

No, that's not a "rough place", that's simply how it is. More
importantly, did the tech ASK for the CD and key? I bet not
because even if he had it, like you, he wouldn't use it, jumping
to the excuse of "too many variables, it might be OEM" and so on.
Now YOU are in the uncomfortable position of having an
"illegal" operating system on your computer.

For which the tech can be sued and beat easily in small claims
court, I am very happy to say.
Take your computer back to the tech, along with YOUR copy of
Windows XP, and tell him to install YOUR version. Of course,
you will have to give him the valid install key, that came with
YOUR product, for him to do that. Do you trust him?

Or, he could simply plug it in, and do it right there in front of
you and if you're really scared of his worthiness, let you enter
the key. Prepare to stand around for an hour or so.
Expect to pay extra for a second reinstall.

Bullshit: He screwed up the computer, didn't tell the customer
he was goign to do that, and returned an iillegal system to the
customer. He is clearly in the wrong and unless it's spelled out
in his contract that he does that, he's responsible for making it
right. It's not rocket science after all.
Whenever I work on computers I assume that a reinstall "may" be
necessary. I always instruct my customers to bring me the
media, and install keys, for any programs they want me to
install, including the operating system. If they don't have the
install keys, their only option, as far as I am concerned, is
for me to install a virgin operating system (new - out of the
box), and they "will" pay for the system.

No, their only option, in any legal opinion, is to avoid you and
not give you the machine and then go find someone who knows what
they're doing. There is NEVER a reason to give a customer back a
machine which cannot be reinstalled or legally operated. NEVER!
If you disagree with that, get out of the field - you're an
extremely bad businessperson and you are going to lose out to the
likes of ME: Someone who has NEVER given a machine back without
a perfectly legal and fully functional operating system
configured as the customer expects it to be.

You are woefully misinformed and prepared for this type of work.
Get out, because your customers are coming to ME and telling me
about all the crud YOU guys pull. And they're pretty upset, too.
What return business you do get is a strange bunch of people,
aren't they? Mine aren't, and I'm in the process of hiring two
more people to handle the load.

Worst of luck to you; you're a real wart on the ass of progress
and a criminal to boot.
 
Ian said:
yes, IT support is a rough place to work, tell me about it, but
then if I
reinstalled a computer with a different key I'd at least check
that it could
be activated, knowing that I'd be supplying the customer with
useless junk if
it couldn't be. Ths strikes me as being a case of unfair
trading.

Even if it'd been a corporate copy that might be regarded as a
serviceable
repair (though of questionable legality) whilst a
non-activatable copy is of
no practical use.

As is the so called tech that installed it.

Actually, I suspect the OP may simply need to re-register again.
 
POP said:
As is the so called tech that installed it.

Actually, I suspect the OP may simply need to re-register again.

Wait until the rules of zero-tolerance associated with WGA
hits. Short of knowing the exact makeup of a walk-in customer's
computer system, including the progeny and antecedants of the
installed software, there is no latitude for error. And this is
really the issue of the OP's problem with activation. "Emergency
Room" computer service is really no different from ER Medicine.
Just getting a system up and running is simply not good enough.
It has to up and running from a virgin state.

And, BTW, re-registering might not work but the OP has the right
spirit and understands what should have been done in the first
place. (And I would have asked for the OP's copy of Windows XP
and product key, if he had wanted me to re-install it into the
new HD as part of the service.)
 
Mistoffolees said:
Wait until the rules of zero-tolerance associated with WGA
hits. Short of knowing the exact makeup of a walk-in customer's
computer system, including the progeny and antecedants of the
installed software, there is no latitude for error. And this is
really the issue of the OP's problem with activation.
"Emergency
Room" computer service is really no different from ER Medicine.
Just getting a system up and running is simply not good enough.
It has to up and running from a virgin state.

And, BTW, re-registering might not work but the OP has the
right
spirit and understands what should have been done in the first
place. (And I would have asked for the OP's copy of Windows XP
and product key, if he had wanted me to re-install it into the
new HD as part of the service.)

Absolutely, you are correct. The WGA is so far only making some
"interesting" problems around here because people aren't
understanding what it's about.

There seems to be only two camps: Those who believe the
crud-techs trying to foist off illegal os's to their clients and
think the whole world is stupid, and another camp just as solidly
convinced that every computer tech is a criminal and to be
avoided if at all possible.
For whatever reason, there are few people who fit logically in
between as one would expect to happen.
I'm very happy to say though, that WGA is getting me some new
business, most of which I don't charge anything for when it's
just a quickl click or two to take care of. I shouldn't, I
suppose, but I often save those up for the end of the day so that
no matter what kind of day it's been, those last few "easies"
make it seem greater than it maybe was<g>.

I'm actually seeing an increase in return business that I
attribute to WGA et al and as long as the charges stay reasonably
small, it seems to be a hit, at least around here. I'm not
overloaded, but I am proud to be able to pay a couple more guys
to help out. I'm the closest to level-loading I think I've ever
been! Well, one of those "guys" is a gal, but who keeps
track?<g>

Regards,

Pop`
 
Thanks for all the help, but I'm still having problems.

I reinstalled XP from my CD, but it's still refusing to accept the
activation code. The problem may be that the product key is not actually on
the CD case, but is on the bottom of my laptop (the CD is, apparently, for
reinstallation only).

I've used magicjellybean to find the key and it insists that the one on my
computer is correct, but microsoft seems to disagree.

Help!
 
Fluffdragon said:
Thanks for all the help, but I'm still having problems.

I reinstalled XP from my CD, but it's still refusing to accept the
activation code. The problem may be that the product key is not actually
on the CD case, but is on the bottom of my laptop (the CD is, apparently,
for reinstallation only).

I've used magicjellybean to find the key and it insists that the one on my
computer is correct, but microsoft seems to disagree.

I have no idea what help you previously received since you didn't keep to
that thread or quote anything, but the Product Key found on an OEM machine
(Dell, HP, Sony, etc.) by Magic Jelly Bean or any of the other key finder
programs will show you the key used by the OEM when they imaged your
computer along with the thousands of other laptops of that particular
model. You do *not* want to use this key to reinstall Windows. Your
individual Product Key is the one on the sticker on the bottom of the
laptop.

Malke
 
I have no idea what help you previously received since you didn't keep to
that thread or quote anything, but the Product Key found on an OEM machine
(Dell, HP, Sony, etc.) by Magic Jelly Bean or any of the other key finder
programs will show you the key used by the OEM when they imaged your
computer along with the thousands of other laptops of that particular
model. You do *not* want to use this key to reinstall Windows. Your
individual Product Key is the one on the sticker on the bottom of the
laptop.

Malke
--

But Magic Jelly Bean gives exactly the same key as is on the bottom of my
laptop. And XP doesn't accept it.
 
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