A7V133 and new CPU XP...

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I've been to the Asus site to see the limits of the CPU's. They all say the
XP2100. But that is only for the 1005 BIOS
Does anybody know what the limits are for the 1009 BIOS for this board?

Mayhaps a comlete list with the 1009BIOS listed.

Soryu...
 
I have one pc running an XP1700+, 133 FSB and another running an XP2100+,
133FSB. My board is revision 1.04, beta bios 1010b.

Wayne
 
Well done sir.
I think maybe I was a little bit harsh earlier. What I should have said is
'try it and see if it works before you go out and buy a new board'. It seems
that some boards can accept it, and it's more than just the board revision.
I cannot remember what revision mine is now, but I know it's high enough to
apparently accept an XP chip. For whatever reason (I think something to do
with inconsistencies in manufacturing), it doesn't. Somebody thought it was
something to do with a capacitor on the board or something. I can't quite
remember now.
All I know is, like a lot of A7V133 users, I can't get up to 133 FSB without
getting hundreds of errors on one of the tests with memtest86.

Chris.
 
I don't have any memory problems running an Athlon XP 1800+ on an A7V133
1.05 (no extra dot) and FSB 133MHz.
Maybe it depends on the A7V133 version, the individual board, memory or
other hardware.
 
Thanks for the warning ice.
I do this for nearly eight years and nothing of the things you mentioned
happened.
Just a bit more of spam I have to filter out.
 
Yes, to tell you the truth the A7V133 is a piece of crap motherboard.
If you have one of these, it's a definate gamble: You either got one
that will work well with an Athlon XP, or most likely, you didn't.
I've gone through five, yes FIVE A7V133's (4 were mine, 1 was my
friends). If you get the memory errors in memtest86 on test #5 you
WILL get blue screens in Windows XP. I've had two 1.05. revisions,
two 1.05 revisions, and a 1.04 revision. Here's what I found:

One 1.05 revision motherboard worked fine with my Athlon XP, but when
I was putting a finicky heatsink on one day the screwdriver came down
and smashed into the motherboard (put a mark over some circuits),
never to POST again. So then I ordered another A7V133, another 1.05
revision.....

Seemed to work alright with Windows XP, but I still had memtest86
errors. Month after I got it, starting noticing a lot of blue screens
that I hadn't been getting before. Tried putting a Thunderbird 1200
in there, motherboard would lock up shortly after boot, then emit an
endless beep. (no, wasnt a heat problem) Another trashed A7V133 (this
one is in my basement right now, rotting away). But I was still a
faithful Asus follower, and read about the 1.05. (with dot) revision,
which was supposed to cure the Athlon XP problems. So I bought one
for around $45...

This 1.05. (w/ dot) revision had memtest errors on test #5, and yes, I
got intermittent but persistent blue screens when coupled with an
Athlon XP 1800+ and Windows XP. I gave this motherboard to my
girlfriend with a Thunderbird 1200 which works flawlessly (she loves
Warcraft 3).

Now, during this entire time, my friend had, and still has, an A7V133
1.04 revision motherboard running an Athlon XP 1800+, he has no
memtest86 errors and no blue screens. This gives me endured hope.

So, I decide to order my fourth A7V133, a revision 1.05. (dot). This
was about 3 weeks ago. This one also gave me memtest errors on test
#5, and when I tried to install Windows XP, it refused to get past the
"Installing network..." screen in the GUI. This one I decided to RMA
back to the online store I got it from, which I should have done with
all my other A7V133s. I got a refund, but I still had about 712MB of
PC133 doing nothing around my house.

So just three weeks ago, I ordered a refurbished MSI K7T Turbo2 kt133a
chipset motherboard for $29 from Newegg. Installed Windows XP with no
problem, no memtest86 errors, and has worked FLAWLESSLY for me for the
past 3 weeks I've owned it. Performance is on par with the A7V133
too. I love this motherboard, it works as it's supposed to with
Athlon XPs, and its rated to go to 2400+ thoroughbreds, more than the
A7V133 can boast.

So what did I learn from all this? Avoid the A7V133 at all costs.
This motherboard has ruined my respect for Asus, and I doubt I will
ever buy an Asus product again. Out of the five A7V133s, only two
worked well with my Palomino Athlon XP 1800+ (the 1.05 revision and my
buddy's 1.04 revision). MSI is stable, works with processors it's
rated at, and has not given me any headaches. If you have an A7V133,
it's a gamble whether it will work with the Athlon XP processor. Get
an MSI K7T Turbo2. It's cheap and probably the best choice if you
have PC133 RAM. Hope this helps.

-Seth
 
E.P. van Westendorp said:
Thanks for the warning ice.
I do this for nearly eight years and nothing of the things you mentioned
happened.
Just a bit more of spam I have to filter out.
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well it might just be that you don't offend people so they don't do anything
nasty to you. I know someone that was pestered by sex aids being delivered,
info about sex changes being sent to them and their details being posted on
a wife swapping board.
 
Lol. Then late one night, someone calls you and asks "Do you know the
max CPU speed the A7v133 can do? I know I can use google and find the
answer, but I found your phone #, and thought it would be quicker!" :)
 
I think that the A7v133 just needs really good memory, and it may also
be a issue with quality control and Asus and the parts they changed
inbetween revs. I and many others have no problems with memtest and
can use a palamino core XP just fine in jumperless mode. I have a
A7v133 v1.05 no dot revision.

I wouldn't buy a A7v133 today though, no matter the cost, there are
just better (faster) motherboards out there, and the ones based on the
Nvidia Nforce2 chipset seem to be the best. I am waiting for a Nforce
3 based motherboard for my next upgrade, then I will be happy again
for a few years. :)
 
I have two of these boards and they work great, never a bit of trouble.
Maybe, in your case, it is the operator and not the boards!
 
Hi
One 1.05 revision motherboard worked fine with my Athlon XP, but when
I was putting a finicky heatsink on one day the screwdriver came down
and smashed into the motherboard (put a mark over some circuits),
never to POST again.
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This certainly looks like a professional work! ;)
I also cannot see your tries to run the board like changing multiplier,
fsb, bios settings, bios flashing, voltages settings, jumpers and
jumperless mode... Did you try antything other than putting the cpu in and
power on!?
So then I ordered another A7V133, another 1.05
revision...
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What for!? There is a lot of newer boards out there supporting XP and
other new technologies. Of course the PC133 must be replaced with DDR
ones.
 
Alright, having a screwdriver slip onto the motherboard can easily
happen with this heatsink. I was using the SLK800-U, which is a 750g
pure Copper heatsink with one of the most finicky 3 pronged metal
attachment. It is EXTREMELY easy to have your screwdriver slip, just
read the reviews of this heatsink at Newegg.com and you will see
people giving warnings.

And YES, I tried EVERYTHING you said with changing multiplier, FSB,
bios settings, flashing BIOS to 1010 beta B, changing the CPU voltage
to 1.75v and motherboard voltage to 3.3v. While the 1.75v and 3.3v
did improve stability, I still got blue screens in Windows XP.
Although I did all these tweaks, WHY should I have to? Shouldn't the
motherboard, if it's rated for Athlon XPs, work right out of the box
without tweaking? My MSI K7T Turbo2 certainly worked fine without any
tweakings of any sort.

And the reason I got so many A7V133 boards is because I have a lot of
PC133 RAM here, and there's no reason for it to go to waste.
Performance of these boards is very good, and it is much cheaper for
me to go the PC133 route than to buy a new motherboard which costs
twice as much as an A7V133 and also buy the pricier DDR Ram.

I used to be an avid Asus fan, but my experience with this motherboard
and Athlon XPs turned me off to the company. I've built around 15
computers total, and none of them matched the problems that the A7V133
had.

-Seth
 
The best way to put Heatsink clamps on is a small pair of Neddle Nose Pliers

BTW I looked at everybodies replies, but nobody tells me if there is a
confirmed list of CPU's supported by this board.

Soryu...
 
Hi
I was using the SLK800-U, which is a 750g
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Using anything heavier than 300-500g is not recommended even by AMD.
It is EXTREMELY easy to have your screwdriver slip, just
read the reviews of this heatsink at Newegg.com and you will see
people giving warnings.
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Then what for to risk? Use sth else a be safe.
Although I did all these tweaks, WHY should I have to? Shouldn't the
motherboard, if it's rated for Athlon XPs, work right out of the box
without tweaking?
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Actually, only 1.05. (with trailing dot) rev of A7V133 with 1007 bios support only
Palomino core of the XP family. So it is veeeery little 'rated for Athlon XP'.
That's why we are to tweak and try weird things :)
OK. Good luck with MSI boards for future.
 
-DraconuS- said:
Actually, only 1.05. (with trailing dot) rev of A7V133 with 1007 bios support only
Palomino core of the XP family. So it is veeeery little 'rated for Athlon XP'.
That's why we are to tweak and try weird things :)
OK. Good luck with MSI boards for future.
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In case you forgot to read my original post, I did try out two 1.05.
motherboards, both of which gave me memtest86 errors and blue screens in
Windows XP. That's why I said I shouldn't have to do any tweaking with this
motherboard since they are rated for Athlon XP.
-Seffius
 
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