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hi I tried to flash my bios form 1003 to 1006,I answered all the yes's,and
it started the procedure,but hung at a point and nothing I did would change
anything,so I shut down and restarted and now,I can see and hear it
accessing the boot floppy but no visual,is it time for a new mb or is this
salvagable?
thanks
req
 
"reqluq" said:
hi I tried to flash my bios form 1003 to 1006,I answered all the yes's,and
it started the procedure,but hung at a point and nothing I did would change
anything,so I shut down and restarted and now,I can see and hear it
accessing the boot floppy but no visual,is it time for a new mb or is this
salvagable?
thanks
req

Was the file you tried to flash exactly 256KB in size ?
AS331006.AWD 262,144 bytes

You have to be careful with decompression tools, as some
of them will actually decompress one of the modules inside
the BIOS file and dump that into your working directory.
If you grab that file by accident, there will be trouble.

If you cannot get it to recover, go to www.badflash.com
and get another flash chip. As long as the flash chip in
the lower left hand corner of the board is situated in
a socket, it can be removed, and a properly programmed
replacement put in its place.

This page shows a fancy tool for removing a PLCC (four sided)
flash chip. The two metal legs have a lip on the end, that
grips (diagonally) underneath the chip as you pull it out.
The only advantage of the tool, is it helps prevent the legs
of the chip, or the contacts in the socket, from getting bent.
I have removed many of these, with a sharp pointed tool, so
a chip puller is not essential unless you are "all thumbs".
If you use this tool, you won't need quite as much clearance
around the socket, to get at the chip (so perhaps you can
pull the chip out, without removing the motherboard from
the computer case):

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?cookie_test=1&catalog_name=CTLG&product_id=276-2101

Take note of the orientation of the chip, _before_ removal.
There should be a triangle on the socket, and that marks
pin 1. There should be a dot on the chip marking pin 1.
Make sure the new chip is face up, and turned the same
way as the old one, before reinserting. There is no
insertion tool - just press it into place with your thumb,
pressing equally on all sides as you push it into place.
The printed circuit board should really be supported, any
time you are pressing on it - but since there is a
standoff right next to the chip, you shouldn't need to remove
the motherboard to insert the new chip.

As always, unplug the computer before working inside it. Use
an antistatic wrist strap or other means, to bring your body
to the same electrical potential as the chassis of the computer.
This will help prevent damage to the new flash chip, which
should have been packaged in antistatic material by "badflash".

Paul
 
reqluq said:
hi I tried to flash my bios form 1003 to 1006,I answered all the
yes's,and it started the procedure,but hung at a point and nothing I
did would change anything,so I shut down and restarted and now,I can
see and hear it accessing the boot floppy but no visual,is it time
for a new mb or is this salvagable?

First, try to locate "clear cmos" jumper and do a clear cmos procedure. If
still unsuccessful, you might be able to see something with a pci video
card. The fact that it tries to read floppy could mean that bootblock is
intact and a reflash could be done.
 
Paul said:
Was the file you tried to flash exactly 256KB in size ?
AS331006.AWD 262,144 bytes

yes it was..I downloaded it from the asus global site,I used the ezflash
program to flash it
I'll check out your suggestions..thanks
 
Egil Solberg said:
First, try to locate "clear cmos" jumper and do a clear cmos procedure. If
still unsuccessful, you might be able to see something with a pci video
card. The fact that it tries to read floppy could mean that bootblock is
intact and a reflash could be done.

will do thanks
 
"reqluq" said:
will do thanks

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/BIOS_FLASH_UTILS/DOS/AFLASH/aflash221.zip

If the boot block is intact, you need to construct a DOS boot floppy.
The autoexec.bat file should contain a line to call the
aflash program, to execute without user intervention.
(That is because the boot block cannot initialize an AGP video card,
so any recovery procedure is done "blind".)

A sample aflash command syntax is shown below. The boot floppy would
contain the DOS boot files, the AFLASH.EXE file, the AS331006.AWD
file, and the manually prepared autoexec.bat file.

AFLASH.EXE /AUTO AS331006.AWD

The /AUTO option is supposed to do "Automated update BIOS without
Boot Block and ESCD". That is the safest option to try.

The other option offered is /BOOT, which does "Update BIOS including
Boot Block and ESCD". Updating the Boot Block, erases the boot block
first, so is a more risky option to use in the autoexec.bat file.

An example of how to make an autoexec.bat file for the floppy
boot disk is here. Substitute the Aflash command above, in
place of the call to awdflash.

http://www3.telus.net/agentsmith/articles/article1.html

If you can hear the BIOS trying to access the floppy diskette,
that means the boot block may still be functional. I think the
odds of that still working, are pretty low. That is one reason
I don't bother to write up this procedure any more.

Since the boot block is likely erased, this procedure is not
reported by most people, as very useful. Still, you can try it
if you like.

Paul
 
"reqluq" said:
Thanks for the suggestions paul,I downloaded dr7dosx from
http://www.shuttle.com/share/fae/hq/faq/top10/top10ans/How to make a bootable disk to flash Bios.htm
and installed it to the floppy,but when I try to send the autoexec.bat to
the floppy it's asks me if I want to replace the autoexec file that is there
already.
req

When I used the Shuttle tool, I get four files on the floppy.
Two are invisible.

AUTOEXEC.BAT - contents are text lines "@echo off" and "cls"
COMMAND.COM - 68KB
IBMBIO.COM - invisible 28KB
IBMDOS.COM - invisible 32KB

I would think you could put your own AUTOEXEC.BAT on
there if you want.

Paul
 
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